Grandson of WWII NAZI banker accuses others of appeasement.

[Texas]

The PUSA invoking Godwin's law in Israel's Knesset, of all places.

Un-freakingly-believable.

It's POTUS.

 

[Texas]

When it comes to what the Saudis do within the USA, yes - of course that's done with US allowance, especially given how the Saudi funding of Wahabbism isn't exactly a secret.

The US government knows what's going on and allows it to happen because of brain-dead political correctness and the need to not upset oil suppliers.

Before you condemn the Saudi Royals think about what sits within their borders and then ask yourself why they may walking a tightrope in their relationship with the infidels. It isn't oil.

 

[TruthByDecree]

Second time: You have not supported with evidence your contention that "he’s only sitting in the White House because his Grandfather built the family fortune and political dynasty off the backs of NAZI slave labor."

Nor can you.

Oh no? How many unfounded conspiracy theories are documented in the National Archives and Library of Congress?

Bush/Nazi Link Confirmed

http://www.nhgazette.com/the-bushnazi-stories/bushnazi-link-confirmed/

WASHINGTON - After 60 years of inattention and even denial by the U.S. media, newly-uncovered government documents in The National Archives and Library of Congress reveal that Prescott Bush, the grandfather of President George W. Bush, served as a business partner of and U.S. banking operative for the financial architect of the Nazi war machine from 1926 until 1942, when Congress took aggressive action against Bush and his “enemy national” partners.

Hey Gravy. Do you think this guy hates Nazis?

http://www.nhgazette.com/the-bushnazi-stories/bushnazi-link-continued/

former U.S. Justice Department Nazi war
crimes prosecutor John Loftus, now honorary president
of the Florida Holocaust Museum, wrote a book and launched
a web site (www.john-loftus.com) which did breakthrough
reporting, including establishing the link between Prescott
Bush, Consolidated Silesian Steel Corporation and forced
labor at Auschwitz.

Now is working for the enemy during a time of war a better comparison for appeasement then just talking to Iran or not? And is President Bush aware of these facts about his own family when he accuses others of appeasement or is he just ignorant? And who is hurting us more the Saudis or Iran? How many 9/11 hijackers were from Iran?

Iranian artist painting.

Thousands of Iranians attend 9/11 candlelight vigil in Tehran.

Now why is talking to Iran appeasement again?

 

[Gravy]

Oh no? How many unfounded conspiracy theories are documented in the National Archives and Library of Congress?

Bush/Nazi Link Confirmed

Hey Gravy. Do you think this guy hates Nazis?

Now is working for the enemy during a time of war a better comparison for appeasement then just talking to Iran or not? And is President Bush aware of these facts about his own family when he accuses others of appeasement or is he just ignorant? And who is hurting us more the Saudis or Iran? How many 9/11 hijackers were from Iran?

You're kidding, right? This information was known in the 1940's. Prescott Bush was not a Nazi sympathizer, and he certainly didn't "build the family fortune and political dynasty off the backs of NAZI slave labor." Try not to become hysterical.

 

[TruthByDecree]

You're kidding, right? This information was known in the 1940's. Prescott Bush was not a Nazi sympathizer, and he certainly didn't "build the family fortune and political dynasty off the backs of NAZI slave labor." Try not to become hysterical.

Sure it's been known since the 1940's. That is when the government seized the assets. Now what are assets Gravy? And wasn't Prescott working to make some of those assets for himself and his family? Or was it just out of sympathy for the NAZI cause? What is your position?

What is appeasement to you?

 

[WildCat]

When it comes to what the Saudis do within the USA, yes - of course that's done with US allowance, especially given how the Saudi funding of Wahabbism isn't exactly a secret.

The US government knows what's going on and allows it to happen because of brain-dead political correctness and the need to not upset oil suppliers.

Funding Wahabbist mosques in the US isn't illegal, nor could it be made illegal since such an act would clearly be unconstitutional.

You're really stretching on this one.

 

[Gravy]

Sure it's been known since the 1940's. That is when the government seized the assets. Now what are assets Gravy? And wasn't Prescott working to make some of those assets for himself and his family? Or was it just out of sympathy for the NAZI cause?

Out of sympathy for the Nazi cause? He owned one share in a company that did business with a Nazi opponent, Fritz Thyssen. Polish slave labor? Thyssen had left Germany before the Nazis even invaded Poland. So how was Bush involved in slave labor there?

If you think Bush was a Nazi sympathizer, please point to one specific decision he made during his one-share directorship that supports this contention.

You made two accusations about Prescott Bush. One, that he built his fortune and political career by collaborating with Nazis an benefiting from slave labor. Two, that he participated in a plot to overthrow the U.S. government. All I ask is that you do your homework before making serious accusations. Fair enough?

 

[WildCat]

Sure it's been known since the 1940's. That is when the government seized the assets.

So now you're claiming the Bush family got rich on assets seized by the government?

Do you know what the word "seized" means?

 

[Gravy]

So now you're claiming the Bush family got rich on assets seized by the government?

Do you know what the word "seized" means?

I don't think he's claiming that, but that doing business with a company whose assets were seized shows culpability (the assets were returned, by the way. We had discussed this long ago in the CT subforum). As far as I can tell, he's failing to make the distinction between Germans and Nazis.

 

[TruthByDecree]

So now you're claiming the Bush family got rich on assets seized by the government?

Do you know what the word "seized" means?

Do you? Because Gravy is correct in that the assets were returned in 1951. What he doesn't seem to get is when they were seized the Government didn't make any distinctions between Germans and Nazis.

Now here is some modern day appeasement that seems to escape the president while he's making out with the Saudi Prince...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/12/08/world/main2240138.shtml

But the U.S. Iraq Study Group report released Wednesday said Saudis are a source of funding for Sunni Arab insurgents. Several truck drivers interviewed by The Associated Press described carrying boxes of cash from Saudi Arabia into Iraq, money they said was headed for insurgents.

 

[TruthByDecree]

Out of sympathy for the Nazi cause? He owned one share in a company that did business with a Nazi opponent, Fritz Thyssen. Polish slave labor? Thyssen had left Germany before the Nazis even invaded Poland. So how was Bush involved in slave labor there?

If you think Bush was a Nazi sympathizer, please point to one specific decision he made during his one-share directorship that supports this contention.

You made two accusations about Prescott Bush. One, that he built his fortune and political career by collaborating with Nazis an benefiting from slave labor. Two, that he participated in a plot to overthrow the U.S. government. All I ask is that you do your homework before making serious accusations. Fair enough?

You want to be fair? What didn't I show? How did Prescott Bush make a living during WWII? Are they now not a political and financial dynasty?

So the issue is that he only had one share now? How many ovens to march how many jews into equate one share Gravy? How many bullets to kill how many Allies? Does it matter?

How many shares would be appeasement to you?

 

[WildCat]

Do you? Because Gravy is correct in that the assets were returned in 1951. What he doesn't seem to get is when they were seized the Government didn't make any distinctions between Germans and Nazis.

What you don't get is that the assets were in a company that wasn't involved with the nazis, and in fact the owner was imprisoned by the Nazis. At the start of the US involvement in WWII all German assets were seized, whether or not they were state-owned assets or private German assets of Germans not involved with the Nazis.

Now here is some modern day appeasement that seems to escape the president while he's making out with the Saudi Prince...

Evidence that this money is supplied by the Saudi government? I'll assume without fear of contradiction that you have none.

 

[WildCat]

So the issue is that he only had one share now? How many ovens to march how many jews into equate one share Gravy? How many bullets to kill how many Allies? Does it matter?

Holy non sequitur Batman!

 

[TruthByDecree]

What you don't get is that the assets were in a company that wasn't involved with the nazis, and in fact the owner was imprisoned by the Nazis. At the start of the US involvement in WWII all German assets were seized, whether or not they were state-owned assets or private German assets of Germans not involved with the Nazis.

No you are the one who obviously doesn't get or at least are pretending not to serve your unfounded opinion.

You first claimed that I must not know what the word "seized" means implying that if the assets were "seized" they could not have contributed to the Bush fortune. You were proven to be incorrect on this because the assets were returned after the war.

So what was the point you were trying to make about the assets being "seized" Wildcat? What is your point now that you have been shown they were returned? It doesn't matter now? Why?

And your claim that German companies during WWII had nothing to do with the Nazi's makes you a good candidate towards appeasing tendencies.

Evidence that this money is supplied by the Saudi government? I'll assume without fear of contradiction that you have none.

It comes from Saudi Arabia and it results in dead American soldiers in Iraq. Why doesn't the Presidents boyfriend put a stop to it? I here they can be pretty strict over there when they want to be so what's the problem? Has the President made any request to the Prince to stop it or is he just ignoring that also while he accuses Americans of appeasement?

 

[boloboffin]

What you don't get is that the assets were in a company that wasn't involved with the nazis, and in fact the owner was imprisoned by the Nazis. At the start of the US involvement in WWII all German assets were seized, whether or not they were state-owned assets or private German assets of Germans not involved with the Nazis.

Union Bank was seized in October 1942. It's kind of hard to call that the "start of the US involvement in WWII".

However, Thyssen had been imprisoned by the Nazis at this time. No charges were brought against the directors of the bank, and when Prescott ran for the U.S. Senate in 1952, he won it handily and this event well within public knowledge was never raised.

Hitler put a knife into a lot of backs of the people who helped him rise to power. Prescott Bush's Nazi ties are very, very tangential.

 

[Shadowdweller]

While I quite detest Bush as much as the next person, I fail to see how the actions of his ancestors have any bearing on the validity of his arguments.

 

[Pardalis]

While I quite detest Bush as much as the next person, I fail to see how the actions of his ancestors have any bearing on the validity of his arguments.

An ad hominem priores?

I'm not really good at latin.

 

[The Painter]

Hey Truth..

How's this;

JFK collaborates with Nazis to put man on the moon. It's true!!!

 

[WildCat]

No you are the one who obviously doesn't get or at least are pretending not to serve your unfounded opinion.

You first claimed that I must not know what the word "seized" means implying that if the assets were "seized" they could not have contributed to the Bush fortune. You were proven to be incorrect on this because the assets were returned after the war.

So what was the point you were trying to make about the assets being "seized" Wildcat? What is your point now that you have been shown they were returned? It doesn't matter now? Why?

What was the value of the assets, and what percent of Bush's assets did that represent? You do have the answer to this question, right? because otherwise you'd be making a half-assed accusation based on nothing but speculation.

And your claim that German companies during WWII had nothing to do with the Nazi's makes you a good candidate towards appeasing tendencies.

If the owner of that company was imprisoned by the Nazis how does that make him a Nazi collaborator?

It comes from Saudi Arabia and it results in dead American soldiers in Iraq.

But this is not money from the Saudi government.

Why doesn't the Presidents boyfriend put a stop to it?

The same reason the US is not crime-free. What you are demanding is impossible.

I here they can be pretty strict over there when they want to be so what's the problem? Has the President made any request to the Prince to stop it or is he just ignoring that also while he accuses Americans of appeasement?

Please try to think about what you are saying, because this doesn't even make any sense.

 

[WildCat]

Hey Truth..

How's this;

JFK collaborates with Nazis to put man on the moon. It's true!!!

I wouldn't be surprised if Truth is a moon landing hoax proponent.