Golden Section - Phi - Template of Creation

Davidjayjordan said:
Sure Ryan, you can post math hyperlinks, but seriously now, the best way to know if you personnaly caught what he taught is if you personnally can write and summarise mathematically or in numbers what he taught you. Then you can teach others and they can maybe teach others, and more knowledge is increased.

Me I like piecing together all areas of creation rather than just mathematics, I don;t want to lose the vision of the forest with to close an examination of a specific tree.

Hoping to hear from you and sorry I miseed your posting.

All the best

david
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Wonderful! I’m glad you’re open to suggested reading. I’ll point you to books more than web pages, but many of these should be at your local library, if you’d rather not go Amazon.


The Nature and Growth of Modern Mathematics, by Edna Kramer
A seductive, engrossing book covering a wide range of math at a basic but nontrivial level. Unfortunately, it’s not even available at Amazon, but if you find it anywhere, by golly, get it! It’s my primary recommendation. (The chapters on Galois and Godel alone are worth the price.)

Godel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid, by Douglas R. Hofstadter
A book about logic. Challenging and wonderful.

The Number Sense: How the Mind Creates Mathematics, by Stanislas Dehaene
A fascinating book about the cognitive aspects of mathematical thinking.

The Man Who Knew Infinity, by Robert Kanigel
I read an excellent biography of Ramanujan a while ago, and I’m not sure if this is it, but it’s worth getting any biography of him you can find, preferably one which doesn’t shy away from the math.

A History of Pi, by Petr Beckmann
There are other numbers with fascinating properites. (Also on that Amazon page -- “Horny Goat Weed, 60 caps”. Don’t ask me. :confused:)

That’s a quick list off the top of my head. If anyone else has suggestions, I’m sure Davidjayjordan would be well-served.

ETA: The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark, by Carl Sagan and Ann Druyan
Always good to add that.
 
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Yes you are getting frustrated Wolley, never the less, I will try to search for your long lost post, even though you won't answer my physics questions, nor have you responded to my mass density statement of truth of the micro and macro systems, nor the passing thru walls and galaxies coments. This I asked but you never asnwered. But then maybe like me you are busy elsewhere. Not a problem, do answer when you get a chance. and I shall try to find your long lost question. Hopefully it is about PHI as this is a thread about the Golden section.....

I did answer your 216,000 mile one though and am thoroughty impressed with the exact number and DESIGN that the ancients knew, they truly must have known the Lord's design. Besides the earth's diameter is imprinted exactly into the four sides of the Great PHI pyramid... so they must have had some knowledge about the exact diameter of the earth or at least its mean 7920....

Hmm and we must talk about why the earth's frequency or resonance is about 8 hertz as it deals with PHI again and the speed of light and sexuality.

Do read inbetween all the foolish posts for the good PHI posts and do continue to excuse the athiests who are foolish, they do give you a bad name, and I apology for them to you. I don't class all athiest as dumb if they are honestly not knowing and able to see design and integrate their knowledge.
 
Thanks Ryan, for the hyperlinks to your math books, from going there they seem like honest readable and helpful. Thanks Bro, and loved your vivitar, so much better than others, I must get me one like that, to mesmerise with graphics and geometry... ha or the spirit.

Your contributionis Much Appreciated
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Yes you are getting frustrated Wolley, never the less, I will try to search for your long lost post, even though you won't answer my physics questions, nor have you responded to my mass density statement of truth of the micro and macro systems, nor the passing thru walls and galaxies coments. This I asked but you never asnwered. But then maybe like me you are busy elsewhere. Not a problem, do answer when you get a chance. and I shall try to find your long lost question.
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The things you list above are precisely what the post was about.

Hopefully it is about PHI as this is a thread about the Golden section.....
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Well it was a response to you, so......

I did answer your 216,000 mile one though and am thoroughty impressed with the exact number and DESIGN that the ancients knew, they truly must have known the Lord's design. Besides the earth's diameter is imprinted exactly into the four sides of the Great PHI pyramid... so they must have had some knowledge about the exact diameter of the earth or at least its mean 7920....
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Dealt with in another post.

Hmm and we must talk about why the earth's frequency or resonance is about 8 hertz as it deals with PHI again and the speed of light and sexuality.
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What? How do you get a resonant frequency for the Earth? Citations for this would be nice.

Do read inbetween all the foolish posts for the good PHI posts and do continue to excuse the athiests who are foolish, they do give you a bad name, and I apology for them to you. I don't class all athiest as dumb if they are honestly not knowing and able to see design and integrate their knowledge.
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Never apologise for other people. You don't control them, and neither do I.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Thanks Ryan, for the hyperlinks to your math books, from going there they seem like honest readable and helpful. Thanks Bro, and loved your vivitar, so much better than others, I must get me one like that, to mesmerise with graphics and geometry... ha or the spirit.

Your contributionis Much Appreciated
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My pleasure.

I think you’ll agree with me that when one speaks out of half-knowledge, or misunderstood knowledge -- that is, when one fails to recognize the extent of one’s own ignorance -- the only possible result is more ignorance. As truthseekers, we’re perpetually obligated to measure our ideas against the facts of the real world, and to be courageous enough to change when we find out we’re wrong.

(BTW -- made the “vivitar” myself. I’m good, huh?)
 
Good and talented as well.

For again you have written from your heart and knowledge and it is so true, and you are so brave in posting it among those that are so foolish, not all but most. As your posting is encouraging.

I just wish others would follow your cue, nevertheless we go on irregardless of their howling as we don't want any excuses not to follow our hearts and our searches for truth.

I know nothing about the Archemedes spiral, do say on, as how it will make us all meet together, if that be the case.

Sincerely appreciated your thoughts....

david

I'm at davidjayjordan@yahoo.com

as who knows when I might be removed, no one is promised tommorrow.... so we got to live life today..
 
I'll find it soon Wolley tonight or whenever and will respond in kind.. Got to go now, my darlingwife needs a new washer, and can;t let her down and is takes 2 to make 1, and there be the start of the Fiboracci series as we have reproduced happily..... and even the practicing of multiplication and math is enjoyable

All the best between times
 
Davidjayjordan said:
I'll find it soon Wolley tonight or whenever and will respond in kind.. Got to go now, my darlingwife needs a new washer, and can;t let her down and is takes 2 to make 1, and there be the start of the Fiboracci series as we have reproduced happily..... and even the practicing of multiplication and math is enjoyable. All the best between times
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This was a superb troll, Jay, and has made me think twice about who is actually more gullible: loons or skeptics.
 
Ryan O'Dine said:
(BTW -- made the “vivitar” myself. I’m good, huh?)
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Very good indeed. I once tried to make my own Vivitar but it's hard to get right with household tools.

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Ryan, these threads are just getting too foolish and vile and rude for me to probably continue.... if moderators don;t step in and get the mobs under control, I shant be here much longer, we shall see, because a fellow just suggested that I would resort to serial killing to get my message out. Its gone way past just cute little snide cheap shots to absolute mockery and slander and worse. The majority of athiests are just too far gone to get out of their foolishness and WORSE.

I composed this for the Conspiracy boards for all threrads, but surely they will even mock this.... for that's their lifestyle and mockery and standing for nothing is their self esteem...

All the best.





True scientists look for connections, the CAUSE of the EFFECT. They use logic and reason and hope to find a truth thru experimentation via a theory that continually works.

False skeptics deny everything and stand for nothing but worship skepticism as they are afraid to back up anything and so stay in the safety zone of saying nothing, doing nothing, and being nothing but complainers and whiners.

Real skeptics discern truths and eventually make decisions on what they experience and see and read and determine. Real skeptics have courage, yet false ones are whimps and haven't got a clue because they have absolutely no basis for discernment. Why because they know no laws, or have no standards. For a law or principle or a standard or a truth is what gives someone the ability to discern further other potennial truths.

False skeptics .... groaning, complaining, whining skeptics are not skeptics at all, just those without backbones who can not make decisions and are afraid to make a stand on anything.... and hence are afraid to connect up the mysteries of life. true skeptics have no FEAR, false skeptics are full of doubts and FEARS.

Why, again because false skeptics are lazy and prefer to be on the sidelines and afraid to work and get real and have real experiences and achieve real individuality. Real skeptics do not need the support of anyone else, they will go it alone if need be. But false skeptics love the cozy pews of group mockery because they need the support from fellow false skeptics. For together, they prop up their faith in believing in nothing and standing up for nothing. They hate connections, cause and effect. because they don't want to do the hard job of figuring out what caused what effect.

False skeptics are not true skeptics, There is a huge difference between the two. True skeptics will not accept the answers of others, but will respectfully interrogate any and all iuntil they come to an ANSWER or THE ANSWER they are seeking. For they seek, they don't just sit and criticise those that are seeking and they don't just sit and criticise those that are trying to delve into the mysteries of life. They WORK !!!

Real skeptics REALLY work hard at solving the mysteries of life, and dissipating the lies that are taught to them or others. Because real skeptics care about others as well. They are concerned not just about themselves and their own actions but about others. They are not in their own little selfish world like the false skeptics who only come out at night to complain and harass any on the road to discovery. True skeptics care and want progress and have a goal. False skeptics are lazy and want to go no where and do nothing except be follish and mock those that are passing them by.

So let's make it very clear that there is a HUGE difference between TRUE SKEPTICS and FALSE SKEPTICS.

True skepticism is a thing of honour and courage, False skepticism and pretense is dishonourable and disgusting and shameful.

True skeptics try to discern and figure out the truth behind those that CONSPIRE CONSPIRACIES against them and others. True skeptics are going somewhere, false skeptics are afraid to go anywhere.

Which are you ?
 
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Davidjayjordan said:
True skeptics try to discern and figure out the truth behind those that CONSPIRE CONSPIRACIES against them and others. True skeptics are going somewhere, false skeptics are afraid to go anywhere. Which are you ?
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Have you considered that maybe some people here, me especially, just can't handle profound truths like Jesus having, in fact, invented sex. Specifically BDSM, which was his favorite and throughout his life, could never find the right people, until that one fateful day..
 
Which are you ?
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I'm a skeptic tired of your ranting nonsense. Since you seem incapable of engaging in discussion there's really no point wasting any time with you.
 
DDJ
I too, am fascinated by the golden ratio, but may I suggest you read 'The Golden Ratio' by Mario Livio? In this well-researched book he checked the ratios of the pyramids, the parthenon, works of art by Leonardo da Vinci and others and found that they are NOT based on the golden ratio at all. The Fibonacci sequence and golden ratio do crop up throughout nature, but it is seldom found in art or architecture, where advocates fudge the measurements to fit their theory.
 
Is it just me, but does he sometimes come off all "old testament prophet-ish"?
"but surely they will even mock this.... for that's their lifestyle and mockery and standing for nothing is their self esteem..." is a fine example.

sorry for the derail, but he does remind me a little of Bubblefish.
c'est la vie.

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I shall respond possibly when we get a ruling on this....

Where are the moderators ? Are they in hiding ?

Bob Kause wrote the following on POST # 499 on the 432 thread in Science and Math Board, I ask you is it an acceptable POSTING HERE, its in (( ...)) YES or NO ?

And then I responded with the following...

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Originally Posted by Bob Klase
(( I hope no one here lives anywhere near DJJ. I really think that he may be the type of person that eventually turns to serial killing to get his message out. ))



I know you negative skeptics of follishness think you are being cute, but wacth what you say... and you better reign yourselfs in and even reign others in when they suggest that I would resort to serial kiling to get my message out. have you guys and gals no morals what soever. No respect, no lifes.

I say this not to all but only to that majority that would are increasing their foolish postings and allowing BOB to go even further... into suggesting that I would resort to serial killing to get my message out. And yet none of you barked at him or said enough is enough. You are definitely turnming into a mob, with a mob mentality. But I have reported Bob, and I have reported another fellow and notice he is no longer making his attempts to wreck this thread and others.

Why are most of you soo foolish ? Is it athieism that has so emboldened you to be like this. You aren't being true skeptics showing reason and logic and sicernment.

You're surely not what JFR forums is about.

Some are at least trying occassionally to show respect and some are helping with the research and asking good questions, but the majority are just getting worse and worse and worse.

I try to ignore you... but saying I would resort to serial killing is way out of control.

If you had any discency any morals, any courage you would have blasted Bob Klase for his comments. or are you just hear to wreck the thread and hear yourselves babble. Not all of you but most of you, and you do know who you are.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Where are the moderators ? Are they in hiding ?
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They don't exist solely to do your bidding


Bob Kause wrote the following on POST # 499 on the 432 thread in Science and Math Board, I ask you is it an acceptable POSTING HERE, its in (( ...)) YES or NO ?
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Are you going to obsess about this now?


And then I responded with the following...
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You have a real talent for rendering information indecipherable.


Originally Posted by Bob Klase [URL]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/helloworld/buttons/viewpost.gif[/URL]
(( I hope no one here lives anywhere near DJJ. I really think that he may be the type of person that eventually turns to serial killing to get his message out. ))
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A post which does not appear to be entirely serious or to breach the membership agreement.


I know you negative skeptics of follishness think you are being cute, but wacth what you say... and you better reign yourselfs in and even reign others in when they suggest that I would resort to serial kiling to get my message out. have you guys and gals no morals what soever. No respect, no lifes.
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Responding to a perceived attack by attacking an entire group is not the ideal way to sway opinion.

You say you know the poster was being 'cute', which means you knew it wasn't serious, so why the multi thread complaining?

As to the content of the post, you will notice the following words: think, may, type, eventually. Hardly an insinuation of murderous intent.
 
Well, Points for enterainment value, at least.

Davidjayjordan said:
True scientists look for connections, the CAUSE of the EFFECT. They use logic and reason and hope to find a truth thru experimentation via a theory that continually works.
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Hey, wait a second here! We might be able to use this. Can cut through some of the Blather, here.

What's your Theory, What's your proposed Experiment, And what are the expected results of the Experiment based on your theory? Since we're using Logic and reason, we can do your experiment and logically should get the same results.
 
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