Global porn is huge....or is it?

Miss Anthrope said:
Also for Geni, here is a transcript of an article no longer available at The Age website from 1999 detailing how the porn industry was one of the earliest of the online pioneers, and that it was them who caught on quickly to the opportunity of a new business model and began profiting quite early.



It's a lengthy but informative article. Have I proven Tricky's contention now?
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Mark Cuban is worth 1.8 billion. I suspect he would beg to differ,

Article also claims pay per click. I think GoTo.com (ok yahoo now) might disspute that.
 
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Miss Anthrope said:
(Again, no one ever notices the panties are at the ankles. Sigh.)
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:eye-poppi Oh damn! I thought those were pink socks. Not that I've spent hours looking at the avatar.

C'mon Rand, are you saying you aren't giddy at the whole ethopian porn thing?:D
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Ok, I'll give you that. Oh, and by Marvin are you refering to Starvin Marvin?
 
geni said:
nyet.

The idea of streaming videos predates the web (it goes back to 1988) and the first technologies to do it were developed by 1995 by GTE Laboratories. People involved early on would be the likes of itv.net ,InterVox Communications, and Broadcast.com. News and sports fairly standard stuff. By the late 90s you've got the likes of the BBC involved.

So the devlopment was academics and the early drive was news and sport.
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Ok Geni (This is so weird, it's an uncommon spelling and it's my mother's name), I have to ask...evidence?

Actually, in theory it goes back to serious efforts in the 70's but has been looked at since the mid-20th century according to wikipedia.

We're talking about why streaming media made such leaps and strides in the internet age and how it became a practical and oft used technology on the internet. Porn was indeed the driving force for that.

You have not cited anything other than your own declarations about what you say is or isn't true. What is your factual critique for the rest of the content in the two articles posted?

The second will tell you that indeed Universities did do some major funding and drove part of the effort, but as Tricky said and I have shown you, the people driving many, dare I say most, of the technical innovations in the online world were porn merchants. They were the ones making money from the start, not purveryors of education and sport. You're going to have to do better than just say it's not true.
 
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Here's a third article that backs up the assertions.

They're among the Web's most innovative and profitable entrepreneurs, but pariahs among mainstream business people. Online pornographers have been among the first to exploit new technology for more than a decade — from video-streaming and fee-based subscriptions to pop-up ads and electronic billing. Their bold experimentation has helped make porn one of the most profitable online industries, and their ideas are staples at Fortune 500 companies.


As cyberporn pioneers venture into new fields, such as wireless services, digital-rights management and geo-location software, their peers in other businesses are taking notes again.
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Miss Anthrope said:
Ok Geni (This is so weird, it's an uncommon spelling and it's my mother's name), I have to ask...evidence?

Actually, in theory it goes back to serious efforts in the 70's but has been looked at since the mid-20th century according to wikipedia.

We're talking about why streaming media made such leaps and strides in the internet age and how it became a practical and oft used technology on the internet. Porn was indeed the driving force for that.
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No. Sound is obviously dominated by internet radio.

Video is more complex given that the likes of itv.net ,InterVox Communications, and Broadcast.com surfaced in 1995 there isn't much time for porn to have made many devlopments. By 1998 you've got traditional players getting involved.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/58646.stm

So 3 years during which time there are a number of significant non porn operators.

You have not cited anything other than your own declarations about what you say is or isn't true. What is your factual critique for the rest of the content in the two articles posted?
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Facts? There weren't many. No person X produced this bit of software. or Software Y was created largely in order to fufill the demarnd from the porn industry.

The second will tell you that indeed Universities did do some major funding and drove part of the effort, but as Tricky said and I have shown you, the people driving many, dare I say most, of the technical innovations in the online world were porn merchants. You're going to have to do better than just say it's not true.
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WWW: Devloped by cern partialy so that people would stop asking them what they were up to

Mosaic: designed to make the web look better

Common Gateway Interface created by Rob McCool (who was also behind apache) no aparent links to porn)

Macromedia Flash Player 7 an extension of the flash line. no know links to porn probably partialy respocible for youtube.

What protocl of software was produced by the porn industry?
 
Miss Anthrope said:
Ok Geni (This is so weird, it's an uncommon spelling and it's my mother's name), I have to ask...evidence?
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"Gini" could be Virginia, or "Jeanie". Or it could be literally the magic geni, which I think is etymologically separate from either of those. I did know a girl in The Netherlands once who was named "Djinn", the Dutch equivalent of the magic geni. (And she was a gorgeous slip of a girl of Korean descent, too, with some of the biggest (sexiest!) lips I've ever seen on a human being -- she was to Angelina Jolie what Angelina was to Frank Burns.)
 
no comment other than to post this song from Bill Bailey, which deals with many of these issues.

 
Seismosaurus said:
I see no reason why the money spent on porn is any more wasted than the money spent on movies, computer games, alcohol, professional sports, beauty products, fashion, or any one of the other things that achieve nothing practical but give people entertainment and, when you get right down to it, make life a little more bearable.
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How many of the people who think of it as less money for Aids in Africa think that if the money was not spent on porn it would be spent on Aids in Africa? I think that is an unqualifed NOT!!!

This is not to denigrate Aids in Africa (or any equivalent), just a wave of reality here. Thinking (I guess) that people who somehow have an entertainment opportunity cut off will give that money to charity/good causes is not clear thinking.
 
ImaginalDisc said:
Global porn is huge....or is it?

Is your global porn, shall we say, not large. Do you have trouble pleasing your parter? Enlarge your global porn with larger fetish sections!
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Improve your Frenching, your Greek bugger technique, your British viceing,
Try scheissing in Germany, or a quick tie up and fill'er up in Japan. So many opportunities in Global porn we don't have room (and have to watch Rule 8) to list more than a tiny fraction here. Give generously and often. Do your share to save Global Porn. Do it for the kids!! (Goat lovers everywhere will thank you!!!):D :D :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
fuelair said:
How many of the people who think of it as less money for Aids in Africa think that if the money was not spent on porn it would be spent on Aids in Africa? I think that is an unqualifed NOT!!!

This is not to denigrate Aids in Africa (or any equivalent), just a wave of reality here. Thinking (I guess) that people who somehow have an entertainment opportunity cut off will give that money to charity/good causes is not clear thinking.
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Absolutely!
 
fuelair said:
How many of the people who think of it as less money for Aids in Africa think that if the money was not spent on porn it would be spent on Aids in Africa? I think that is an unqualifed NOT!!!

This is not to denigrate Aids in Africa (or any equivalent), just a wave of reality here. Thinking (I guess) that people who somehow have an entertainment opportunity cut off will give that money to charity/good causes is not clear thinking.
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I think the unspoken argument here is not that money is spent on an unnecessary thing like porn, but that it's spent on a bad thing like porn. A thing that the writer of the article doesn't like.

In other words, it's just a variation of "I don't like this, so nobody should have it and any money or effort spent on it by anybody is wasted."

Well, I DO like porn. I buy it, I get it free, and I use it. In large quantities. My life would be a good deal more unhappy if I didn't. Frankly it gives me the creeps when I see people saying porn should be banned. I keep my nose out of their life, can't they do the same for mine?
 
Seismosaurus said:
I think the unspoken argument here is not that money is spent on an unnecessary thing like porn, but that it's spent on a bad thing like porn. A thing that the writer of the article doesn't like.

In other words, it's just a variation of "I don't like this, so nobody should have it and any money or effort spent on it by anybody is wasted."

Well, I DO like porn. I buy it, I get it free, and I use it. In large quantities. My life would be a good deal more unhappy if I didn't. Frankly it gives me the creeps when I see people saying porn should be banned. I keep my nose out of their life, can't they do the same for mine?
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And this really hits the nail on the head. It's the finger wagging "You shouldn't be buying porn when children are starving!" But wholesome sporting events and clean family movies are perfectly fine.
 
Madalch said:
That's possible- I vaguely remember her being cute in "All in the Family".

But she certianly wasn't cute in her "begging for Africa" period, and my mental image of her will forever be affected by her appearance in an episode of South Park.

On the other hand, I ought not ask for anyone to be banned for mentioning her, as I myself made a remark involving Sylia Browne and Jello wrestling.
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I really wish you hadn't said that. Really.

Really.

Ow.
 
Miss Anthrope said:
And this really hits the nail on the head. It's the finger wagging "You shouldn't be buying porn when children are starving!" But wholesome sporting events and clean family movies are perfectly fine.
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I think it worth noting that the quoted could be seen as looking down unfairly upon those folks who get their jollies by wanking to newsreels of starving children . . .

DR
 
Darth Rotor said:
I think it worth noting that the quoted could be seen as looking down unfairly upon those folks who get their jollies by wanking to newsreels of starving children . . .
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Who doesn't?!

...Okay, I'll back in my box.
 
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