Jas said:
Please show me where I said it was. I was simply pointing out that the of the two countries that border the US, only one does not have English as an official language.
You still haven’t answered the question.
CFLarsen said:
Yeah, it's there, although not "everywhere", as the quote claims.
I never said it was everywhere. That was just one example of how Americans see things in Europe.
You see, there are some people in Denmark who thinks Bush is a disaster - and some express that.
And you don’t think that Americans visiting a foreign country, seeing anti-Bush graffiti, might not be comfortable with that?
What is interesting, though, is not what you choose to quote, but what you choose not to quote:
I quoted what was pertinent to my point, which is that there is anti-American and anti-Bush sentiment is Europe. The two are often lumped together. Are you saying that Bush has nothing to do with the US? News to me.
So, there is concern about Bush - not Americans - and (I hope you agree with me) it is valid.
It doesn’t matter if it’s valid or not, like I said earlier. The fact is, there is anti-American and anti-Bush sentiment. Whatever the reason for it, it’s going to make Americans feel unwelcome.
Proof that Danes don't hate Americans (which you left out):
Strawman.
I never said Danes hate Americans.
If you travel by car, sure. But there are other means of travel. Flying comes to mind.
It would take me 8 hours just to fly to the other end of the country (just the flight time, not including the 3 hour layover in Toronto, or the check in time, or that the airport is an hour away). Not to mention, we don’t have all the budget airlines that Europeans do. You could fly to Berlin today, for under $100 US, according to EasyJet. For me to fly to the States, which is the country next door, would cost me close to $450, on the budget airline, including taxes.
I also have to check in at least 2 hours early if I’m leaving the country.
Not to mention, trains aren’t the practical option that they are in Europe, as we don’t have the population density to justify using them as a primary form of transportation (there are some regions, particularly in the east, however, that do have trains which are used regularly.)
As stated earlier, from downtown London, I could be in downtown Paris in three hours.
Not really. You have plenty of airports in the United States.
I’m Canadian. Hence why I said ‘province’ not ‘state’ when referring to myself, and my experiences. Maybe you should try reading my posts.
Funny, I just showed that your own evidence disproves your contention.
My contention was that there was anti-American sentiment. How did you disprove that?
Note that it is a picture of Bush. It is not an American flag. We are very aware of the difference, you know.
Or maybe I misunderstand you: Do you think that Bush is synonymous with America?
You’re splitting hairs. Is Bush not American? Was he not voted in by Americans? Is he not the leader of the United States? Most people who aren’t Americans don’t bother to make the distinction. The leader of a country is often seen as a symbol of that country.
As there are instances of anti-Europeanism in the US. As exhibited in this very thread. And, of course, the Freedom Fries and Freedom Toast, a government sanctioned form of anti-Europeanism, to hit back at France.
France and Europe aren’t the same thing. France is only part of Europe. How many anti-European protests do you see in the States, compared to the anti-Bush and anti-American protests you see in Europe?
Anti-French isn’t Anti-Europe. As an example, my father cancelled a trip to France because of the gov’ts position, and won’t go there until it changes. He’ll still go to other European countries though. Why? Because they don’t necessarily have anything to do with each other.
Please, let's not generalize about "Europe", hm? Cities in Denmark also make you clean up after your dog.
Did you not just do that, in the above quote?
