Gimlin's Yakima Bigfoot Party

LONGTABBER PE said:
And I applaud Paul for his decision and stance
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Considering the issue at hand is whether or not "certain" questions should be allowed or not being all the huh ub, I would be more appreciative of the stance if he hadn't been to quick to get touchy about percieving folks as attacking Dr Meldrum last summer when it was merely a qustion of why some PHDs and like educated folks can be questioned; Farenbach, Bindernagle, davis among others but Meldrum is untouchable.

Just saying....
 
mikeyx said:
Considering the issue at hand is whether or not "certain" questions should be allowed or not being all the huh ub, I would be more appreciative of the stance if he hadn't been to quick to get touchy about percieving folks as attacking Dr Meldrum last summer when it was merely a qustion of why some PHDs and like educated folks can be questioned; Farenbach, Bindernagle, davis among others but Meldrum is untouchable.

Just saying....
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LOL true
 
There can only be one master and one apprentice.
For a long while Green was the master, Krantz was the apprentice.
Then Krantz was master, and Meldrum his apprenctice.
Now Meldrum is master...but who is the apprentice?
Cloaked is the Dark Side...
 
GT/CS said:
Paul @ the BFF rips into those in charge of the Yakima event.

As usual, no-one bothers to tell me anything, and this morning is the first I have heard of this, it is unfreakingbelieveable!


Tom, Bart, you are both friends of mine, but so is Scott, and to treat him in this way is the very last thing I would have expected from you - I can't put this strongly enough, I think the actions of the organisers on behalf of Bob Gimlin are disgusting. Bob has clearly stated that he sent the email, but that Tom and he were in agreement about the decision and the reasons for it.


I am grateful to Tom for organising a ticket for me, and I was very upset at not being able to attend because of pressures at work. Frankly, I'm glad it panned out that way - If I had been sitting here on this Monday morning planning to board a flight on Thursday, I would now be in a real quandry deciding whether I could in all faith attend an event where a long-standing, reputable member of the bigfoot community is barred from a public 'conference' (Tom's word, not mine) just because he dares to suggest that the PGF might be a hoax and for repeating that an arrest warrant was once issued against Bob Gimlin. I suspect I may well have bailed on the event given the choice, since I too am skeptical of the PGF - I wasn't there, and therefore cannot be 100% certain that it is genuine - and so I would also not have been welcome at this event.


Lets be honest about this, this isn't Beckjord we are talking about, none of you for a second think that Scott would disrupt the event in any way, shape or form, so you have barred him simply because of his opinion - that's a really ****** thing to do. Tell me Tom/Bobo, what did Bob Gimlin have to say about this decision you made on his behalf? What's that? you didn't tell him you say? Didn't think so - I however do care about his reputation, and feel that the organisers are damaging it, and so I will be sending Gimlin a printout of this thread. I think he needs to know what the 'friends of Bob Gimlin' are doing on his behalf.


Presumably Tom/Bart/Bobo, you are also barring Bob Gimlin from this event, since he too has gone on record as saying that there is a possibility that Patterson pulled off a hoax?







Don't think for a second that you will be allowed to promote any further events on this forum, and don't give me the "we aren't promoting this on BFF" crap - of course you are.
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Bob Gimlin reads BFF?
 
Its a damn meltdown now- threats to copyright all the presentations ( LOL) and no reporting.

What a mess
 
a long-standing, reputable member of the bigfoot community is barred from a public 'conference' (Tom's word, not mine) just because he dares to suggest that the PGF might be a hoax and for repeating that an arrest warrant was once issued against Bob Gimlin.

Surely there's more to it than this; but if there isn't -- if this quote accurately sums up what happened -- it's head-shakingly small-minded and just plain wrong, IMO.

Presumably Tom/Bart/Bobo, you are also barring Bob Gimlin from this event, since he too has gone on record as saying that there is a possibility that Patterson pulled off a hoax?


Good point. Can the organizers hope to bar everyone from attending who happens to believe the PGF might be a hoax? Isn't this thought-policing of the lowest order? Is the BF community truly now a cult/church where "non-believers" are disallowed from attending otherwise public conferences, based on their thoughts and opinions?

/shudder/
 
And the headline reads...

The rodeo came to town but only the clowns showed up.


m :bike:
 
GT/CS said:
I think he's saying that Gimlin does not read the BFF and does not know what his 'friends' are doing, so Paul is going to send him a printout of the thread.
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I think that was the implication. I'm more interested to know that Gimlin connects with Bigfooters by email. I wonder how much Gimlin reads about himself and the PGF online.
 
Round-Up organizer Bobo assures Scott Herriott (Yetifan) he would have been physically assaulted for publically questioning the PGF and having reservations about its authenticity if he attended the event:

Bobo @ BFF said:
i wrote it. i wrote you an honest, man to man, response. i thought you deserved it. and it seems all of your years in hollywood has confused you when presented with such an address. all who reserved before feb were granted tickets. only 2 on the waiting list weren't granted tickets. the other person we denied was very understanding and sent bob his best. everyone else there is there to celebrate the film and support bob. he has endured 40+ years of self styled experts, supposed journalists etc... directly cast indictments on either his truthfulness or his abiltily to ascertain the proper dimensions of a 5'10"loser alcoholic in an ape suit or a 7 1/2 foot 600+lb unknown primate. that looked him in the eye, where he personally saw muscles rippling under hair. which is it?
bob has hunted, tracked and shot numerous deer, elk and antelope, some in excess of 700 lbs. he was the preeminent tracker in his area and an undisputed master. bob is still a highly sought after horse trainer and respected member of the back country horsemen association. his hunting acumen, skill and knowledge is unquestioned by those who know him and the subjects. the only people i've ever seen question his judgment are city boys and those with no knowledge of the outdoors and animals. i know there are those who don't fall into either category that feel it could be fake. i just personally haven''t met any. especially any that know bob personally.
also, i don't think you would want to be the guy there who has openly dissed the 78 year old, chiricahua apache elder, boxing(155-0) champ and rodeo legend at a ranch with all of his friends and family present. i guarantee all of your internet banter and wit would result in a good ol' fashioned ass whoopin'. we're doing you a favor.
the earth isn't flat, the sun doesn't revolve around the earth. you've chosen the wrong side of history unfortunately. roger and bob DID film a an unknown, to science, bipedal primate.
and bob knows nothing of this, and tom didn't make the invite decisions alone. we're offering no apologies, we didn't do anything wrong. also, we didn't use the bigfoot fourms for free advertising. someone else started this thread and we thought we were being accomodating by personally relaying info on it. i could just imagine the reaction of bff'ers if we had advertised on the bfro forum first. and this is the exact kind of crap that kept me away from the bff. i want to discus bigfoot with other knowledgable field researchers. i don't really care what armchair and internet researchers think.
the fact is we are putting on a truly historic get together with an unprecedented attendance list of bigfoot notables. there is going to be history making evidence revealed and it is all done in bob gimlin's honor. and what an honorable man he is is reflected in the speakers and attendance lists. by the end of next weekend the debate will have shifted from 'is it real?' to 'what type of being is that?'.
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http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?showtopic=24400&st=198

Guano fanatic cult freak.
 
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Oh, I see. "Bobo" is actually protecting Scott Herriott (Yetifan) from harm. Because apparently, BF enthusiasts are a violent folk, incapable of controlling themselves when it comes to forcing their beliefs down other people's throats, and/or assaulting non-believers who show up at their worship services, I mean public conferences. :rolleyes:
 
Vortigern99 said:
Oh, I see. "Bobo" is actually protecting Scott Herriott (Yetifan) from harm. Because apparently, BF enthusiasts are a violent folk, incapable of controlling themselves when it comes to forcing their beliefs down other people's throats, and/or assaulting non-believers who show up at their worship services, I mean public conferences. :rolleyes:
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The field of Bigfootry is heading south. :boggled:
 
To be fair you're generalizing. There are very many even keeled people interested in the bigfoot thing. The people responsible for this are extremists in a jihad sort of way.
Maybe this marks the beginnings of the Bigfoot Jihad (c). :D

BigfootDad is the boy scout type (no offense to Boy Scouts) who's life is so immersed in bigfoot that there is barely anything else. He's a musician who writes bigfoot songs. I doubt he's ever met a bigfooter he doesn't like. He's a bigfoot cheerleader more or less.
I have to admit I'm pretty shocked by his outbursts, this was the first time I've ever seen him say anything remotely negative about anyone, and we went WAAAAY over the top. I think that shows what was hiding behind all the goody-goody facade.

I've had some earlier dealings with Jim "Bobo" Fay (not outing him, it's common knowledge and on the internet to find) and he's always come across as a real jackass
in the Matt Moneymaker sence, so I'm not surprised. In fact since he started posting at BFF it makes me wonder if he's responsible for some of the vitriol Moneymakers been blamed for.

Both these guys are long time BFRO members and I wonder if the Moneymaker circle the wagons mentality has ingrained itself in their everyday thinking. Talk about cult-like.

Bart is a very nice guy (I've spoken to him on the phone several times) and I think he just got caught up defending his freinds and probably wishes he could take back some of what he's said. I sincerely hope he doesn't follow the same path as these other two.

Those are the players on that side, I hardly think that includes, or should include, all "BF enthusiasts".
 
I consider myself to have once been a BF enthusiast. I still devote an inordinate amount of time to discussing the possibility of its existence. Several of my close friends are experts in the paranormal who also share an interest in the 'Foot. They, and I, are mostly mild-mannered people who are given neither to bursts of belief-defending violence nor proselytizing speeches.

Which is what makes Fay's statements -- that he was protecting Herriot from physical violence at the hands of BF enthusiasts -- so peculiar. It also accounts for my use of the :rolleyes: icon at the end of my above post, which was meant to show that I was being ironic.
 
Vortigern99 said:
I consider myself to have once been a BF enthusiast. I still devote an inordinate amount of time to discussing the possibility of its existence. Several of my close friends are experts in the paranormal who also share an interest in the 'Foot. They, and I, are mostly mild-mannered people who are given neither to bursts of belief-defending violence nor proselytizing speeches.

Which is what makes Fay's statements -- that he was protecting Herriot from physical violence at the hands of BF enthusiasts -- so peculiar. It also accounts for my use of the :rolleyes: icon at the end of my above post, which was meant to show that I was being ironic.
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Vort, didnt you believe its a biological impossibility for it to exist? I think that you like discussing the whole topic of bigfoot, and the people in bigfootry?
 
makaya325 said:
Name one professional footer who isnt an extremist.
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Name one professional footer. Then you tell me how they are an extremist in the sense I was referring.

I was talking about bigfoot enthusiasts who Vort mentioned in his post, I guess that WAAY over your head.
 
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makaya325 said:
Vort, didnt you believe its a biological impossibility for it to exist? I think that you like discussing the whole topic of bigfoot, and the people in bigfootry?
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I think it's highly unlikely/improbable that BF exists. It's possible, but improbable.

Until today, I have never spent any amount of time discussing "the people in bigfootery". This is new territory for me. Mostly I enjoy discussing, as I've said, the possibility of the animal's existence, the evidence (such as it is) for the animal's existence, and specifically the legitimacy of the P-G film.

What's your point here?
 
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