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Ghislaine Maxwell

Gord_in_Toronto said:
I think that would work. You just have to kidnap someone important as a hostage. :(
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<fx peeks over the parapet> Can I nominate Attorney General Wm Barr?

Can't send a bigger message than that.

In the meantime in the real world, does anyone think nothing much will happen between now and the impending trial this time next year? An escape attempt is certainly feasible. She has the contacts and the money.
 
Donald Trump 'wishes Ghislaine Maxwell well'.

When asked by a reporter whether he thought Maxwell would turn in the names of powerful people, Trump responded saying he 'hadn't been following it too much' but that he 'wishes her well'.

'I just wish her well frankly,' he said.

'I've met her numerous times over the years especially since I lived in Palm Beach and I guess they lived in Palm Beach.'
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...nds-message-support-jailed-Epstein-madam.html

LOL. In England to wish someone well is to hope to never cross their paths again.

"I wish him well. I wish him a strange kind of happiness...death" ~ Derek and Clive
 
Vixen said:
LOL. In England to wish someone well is to hope to never cross their paths again.

"I wish him well. I wish him a strange kind of happiness...death" ~ Derek and Clive
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Didn't know that! When I said that to my ex maybe I was being more honest than I thought!
 
JihadJane said:
Didn't know that! When I said that to my ex maybe I was being more honest than I thought!
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It generally doesn't mean that at all. In the UK we can take any compliment and by inflection and circumstances turn it into an ironic statement.

It really depends on who you are talking to and what you really think of them and also what the person hearing your phase understands about your feelings.

"You are so funny" can be meant literally and taken that way, meant literally but taken to be ironic. Said with irony but taken literally or taken in the way intended.
 
I agree. "I wish them well" can be warm and sincere, but as it's literally a farewell it can also imply "...but I'll have nothing further to do with them".
 
Jack by the hedge said:
I agree. "I wish them well" can be warm and sincere, but as it's literally a farewell it can also imply "...but I'll have nothing further to do with them".
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There's nothing subtle about Trump. And watching the video makes it pretty clear that he meant what it sounded like. He could easily have said something like "I'm sure justice will prevail," or even "Like anyone else, she's entitled to the presumption of innocence," but he didn't.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/21/donald-trump-ghislaine-maxwell-i-wish-her-well
 
Virgin Islands government subpoenas multiple banks for Jeffrey Epstein's financial records [ABC News]

At least ten financial institutions -- including Deutsche Bank, JPMorgan Chase and Citibank -- have been issued subpoenas in recent weeks from the office of USVI Attorney General Denise George, according to court filings reviewed by ABC News. The subpoenas seek account records, transaction details and communications concerning Epstein, his estate, and more than 30 corporations, trusts and nonprofit entities connected to him.

Earlier this month, the attorney general revealed in court filings that her office is also scrutinizing the alleged role of Ghislaine Maxwell in Epstein's operation. "The Government is and has been actively investigating Maxwell's participation in the criminal sex-trafficking and sexual abuse conduct of the Epstein Enterprise," wrote Ariel Smith, deputy attorney general of the USVI in a court filing on July 11.
 
From the POV of the devil's advocate (were I the counsel for Ghislaine Maxwell) I would advise that her bid to gag the victims from publicising their claims against her is the wrong strategy. Her best strategy is to let the sexual abuse of minors and trafficking thereof side be the main story and let the scandalous, titillating, salacious press focus on the SEX SEX SEX, whilst the big story of deep state corruption (top ranking politicians, attorneys, scientists, celebrities) and espionage/blackmail is buried beneath all the stories of her sordid activities on the massage tables.

Sex sells. Don't stop them, is what her advocate should be telling her.
 
Vixen said:
From the POV of the devil's advocate (were I the counsel for Ghislaine Maxwell) I would advise that her bid to gag the victims from publicising their claims against her is the wrong strategy. Her best strategy is to let the sexual abuse of minors and trafficking thereof side be the main story and let the scandalous, titillating, salacious press focus on the SEX SEX SEX, whilst the big story of deep state corruption (top ranking politicians, attorneys, scientists, celebrities) and espionage/blackmail is buried beneath all the stories of her sordid activities on the massage tables.

Sex sells. Don't stop them, is what her advocate should be telling her.
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Please don't assume just because you are very very very easy to trick, everybody else also is :rolleyes:
 
RedStapler said:
Please don't assume just because you are very very very easy to trick, everybody else also is :rolleyes:
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The Netflix film 'Filthy Rich' and Bradley Edward's [excellent] book, Relentless Pursuit focus solely on the sex. One of the victims was 22 years-old when she was procured for Epstein. Now that is an appalling tragedy for her and has ruined her life, but what about the elite cabals that funded Epstein and Maxwell in the first place?
 
Vixen said:
From the POV of the devil's advocate (were I the counsel for Ghislaine Maxwell) I would advise that her bid to gag the victims from publicising their claims against her is the wrong strategy. Her best strategy is to let the sexual abuse of minors and trafficking thereof side be the main story and let the scandalous, titillating, salacious press focus on the SEX SEX SEX, whilst the big story of deep state corruption (top ranking politicians, attorneys, scientists, celebrities) and espionage/blackmail is buried beneath all the stories of her sordid activities on the massage tables.

Sex sells. Don't stop them, is what her advocate should be telling her.
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Your advice to someone facing trial for particular offences is that they should not attempt to minimise damaging publicity for those offences, but rather do the opposite? And your reasoning is that, since you assume all important people to be a giant cabal, collectively guilty of innumerable even greater crimes, then by making things as bad for herself as possible at her trial this will distract everyone from discussing the imagined wrongdoings of VIPs and celebrities who, I notice, aren't actually charged with anything. And presumably this self-sacrifice will somehow gain their gratitude in unspecified (but presumably unfair, corrupt and objectionable) ways.

I watched The Equaliser 2 last night and I thought the plot of that was totally absurd, but this puts it in perspective.
 
Vixen said:
From the POV of the devil's advocate (were I the counsel for Ghislaine Maxwell) I would advise that her bid to gag the victims from publicising their claims against her is the wrong strategy. Her best strategy is to let the sexual abuse of minors and trafficking thereof side be the main story and let the scandalous, titillating, salacious press focus on the SEX SEX SEX, whilst the big story of deep state corruption (top ranking politicians, attorneys, scientists, celebrities) and espionage/blackmail is buried beneath all the stories of her sordid activities on the massage tables.

Sex sells. Don't stop them, is what her advocate should be telling her.
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You're not a real lawyer, are you?
 
Dershowitz having a normal one online insisting that it's actually cool and good he's name dropped as a child rapist in the Maxwell case.
 
I think it is most likely that Trump “wishes her well” to signal that he is not her enemy, that he doesn’t wish to piss her off. No doubt there are a lot of important people who don’t wish to piss her off. Not that they all were involved in underage sex. Just that Epstein cultivated a large group of powerful people, wined and dined them, had them over to his private island, etc. and these folks would now very much prefer to be left out of any testimony Maxwell provides.

If I was in that position I would certainly avoid making public declarations of how despicable Maxwell is; why tempt her to retaliate?
 
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Giordano said:
I think it is most likely that Trump “wishes her well” to signal that he is not her enemy, that he doesn’t wish to piss her off. No doubt there are a lot of important people who don’t wish to piss her off. Not that they all were involved in underage sex. Just that Epstein cultivated a large group of powerful people, wined and dined them, had them over to his private island, etc. and these folks would now very much prefer to be left out of any testimony Maxwell provides.

If I was in that position I would certainly avoid making public declarations of how despicable Maxwell is; why tempt her to retaliate?
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That is applying too much credit to his ability to rationally think about something. She is part of "his" social circle, therefore she is a good person regardless of anything else.
 
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