Ghislaine Maxwell

[Bob001]

OK. But I did say "rich enough". A bribe or two here and there. Rental or theft of a stealth helicopter. Pick up from an open area. Flight into international waters. Transfer to Liberian registered ship. And away we go. Is there anything that cannot be bought with money?

And, don't forget she "has" a lot of scandalous information on lots of important people who might be coerced to cooperate.

A "stealth" helicopter, if they even exist, would have a reduced radar signature. That wouldn't keep people from seeing it. And since she's locked up in Brooklyn, there's no open area. If anybody could have escaped, it would have been El Chapo. And he didn't.

 

[arthwollipot]

That's once you've established it was in Australia. Sure, once you start looking in Australia, it might not take long, but how do you know that's where to look?

If they're an Australian citizen, then the records would be here regardless of where the marriage actually took place. If they're not a citizen, then yeah you'd be right.

 

[theprestige]

If they're an Australian citizen, then the records would be here regardless of where the marriage actually took place. If they're not a citizen, then yeah you'd be right.

Wouldn't someone have to proactively register the marriage in Australia, and forward the records there?

I mean, if an Australian citizen gets married in the US, the officiant is going to file the records with their local jurisdiction. What's the process that guarantees Australia gets a copy of that filing?

 

[arthwollipot]

Wouldn't someone have to proactively register the marriage in Australia, and forward the records there?

I mean, if an Australian citizen gets married in the US, the officiant is going to file the records with their local jurisdiction. What's the process that guarantees Australia gets a copy of that filing?

Honestly, I'm not sure. But I'm about 85% certain that it does somehow. If someone can demonstrate that I'm wrong, then I'm wrong.

 

[angrysoba]

If they're an Australian citizen, then the records would be here regardless of where the marriage actually took place. If they're not a citizen, then yeah you'd be right.

Wouldn't someone have to proactively register the marriage in Australia, and forward the records there?

I mean, if an Australian citizen gets married in the US, the officiant is going to file the records with their local jurisdiction. What's the process that guarantees Australia gets a copy of that filing?

Honestly, I'm not sure. But I'm about 85% certain that it does somehow. If someone can demonstrate that I'm wrong, then I'm wrong.

I don't think it does happen that way. From what I understand from Australian citizens here in Japan, when they get married in Japan, and have kids here, they don't get automatically registered in Australia. How would they even know about the marriage and the kids unless someone tells them? Who would that be? It's definitely not the Japanese authorities as they don't do it for anyone else.

 

[abaddon]

Please can we all take a step back. This thread is ostensibly about Ghislaine Maxwell.

Now we are all discussing marriage law as applied in various jurisdictions and Ghislaine is entirely forgotten.

 

[arthwollipot]

Please can we all take a step back. This thread is ostensibly about Ghislaine Maxwell.

Now we are all discussing marriage law as applied in various jurisdictions and Ghislaine is entirely forgotten.

Agreed.

 

[abaddon]

Agreed.

Thanks.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

A "stealth" helicopter, if they even exist, would have a reduced radar signature. That wouldn't keep people from seeing it. And since she's locked up in Brooklyn, there's no open area. If anybody could have escaped, it would have been El Chapo. And he didn't.

A quick Google Maps check shows a nice large parking lot right in the centre of MDC Brooklyn and adjacency to the Hudson River. I've watched enough Hollywood movies to know that escape would be possible.

 

[zooterkin]

If they're an Australian citizen, then the records would be here regardless of where the marriage actually took place. If they're not a citizen, then yeah you'd be right.

Well, since Maxwell is not Australian, my point stands. Even if her husband were Australian, it’s just one of a couple hundred places to start searching for marriage records, in the absence of further information.

 

[Matthew Ellard]

I might be old fashioned but it seems the more obvious thing to do would be to search land titles of the New Hampshire property and if it is owned by a Limited Liability Company, determine the names of the directors, which is public information.

That may show if the LLC is a trustee company for a property trust and allow for discernment of Maxwell's assets for court directions.

 

[Matthew Best]

The property was bought by a company called Granite Reality, according to this website:

https://www.concordmonitor.com/Bradford-community-speaks-post-Ghislaine-Maxwell-35143394

Our old friends Jacob Wohl and Jack Burkman have filed paperwork to lobby on behalf of Granite Reality - you can see this here:

https://disclosurespreview.house.gov/ld/ldxmlrelease/2020/RR/301185287.xml

However, as it's them I suspect they're just trying to inject themselves into a story for fun and/or profit. There's a Twitter thread about this here:

https://twitter.com/HKrassenstein/status/1283098284303810565

Granite Reality, which the prosecutor calls "a carefully anonymised LLC" in this Memoradum in Support of Detention was formed on 19th November 2019 and purchased the property in Bradford the following month. The manager of Granite is Boston lawyer, Jeffrey W. Roberts, who is also the registered agent for a second company, Hopley Yeaton, whose manager is named as “Scott Borgerson.” Both companies also share the same address in Boston - Roberts’ law firm.

 

[Vixen]

The surprise news is that she is apparently married, but won’t name her husband.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/15/ghislaine-maxwell-married-court-jeffrey-epstein

Where was Prince Andrew last November?

She's too old for him.

 

[Vixen]

A quick Google Maps check shows a nice large parking lot right in the centre of MDC Brooklyn and adjacency to the Hudson River. I've watched enough Hollywood movies to know that escape would be possible.

I saw that film, 'Con Air':

A number of inmates are being transferred to a new supermax prison, including mass murderer William "Billy Bedlam" Bedford, serial rapist John "Johnny 23" Baca, Black Guerrilla Family member Nathan "Diamond Dog" Jones, and criminal mastermind "Cyrus the Virus" Grissom. After taking off, affable inmate Joe "Pinball" Parker incites a riot as a distraction, releasing Grissom and Diamond Dog who lead the takeover of the plane. The hijacking inmates plot to land at Carson Airport as scheduled, pick up and transfer other prisoners, and then fly to a non-extradition country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Con_Air

So, if Ghislaine can cause a few distractions and somehow get a message for her private helicopter and pilot to wince her up - and a few fellow felons awaiting trial - why, she could be on her way to Morocco [a no-extradition country] on Jeffery's old private jet. Audacious? Yes, but then so was Epstein's hanging stunt.

 

[bruto]

I think the celebrity culture is interesting. People seem to expect all sorts of cleverness and audacity from high profile people who turn out, on closer inspection, to be just ordinary folks with rich parents and self-assured arrogance. Maybe Maxwell just isn't all that competent.

 

[TurkeysGhost]

I think the celebrity culture is interesting. People seem to expect all sorts of cleverness and audacity from high profile people who turn out, on closer inspection, to be just ordinary folks with rich parents and self-assured arrogance. Maybe Maxwell just isn't all that competent.

Maxwell's father was a suspected spook for the Israelis, so that adds a bit of intrigue your normal rich family might not have.

It's certainly fertile soil for conspiracy theories.

 

[shuttlt]

Maxwell's father was a suspected spook for the Israelis

I thought Captain Bob was also linked to MI6, the CIA and the KGB?

 

[Vixen]

I thought Captain Bob was also linked to MI6, the CIA and the KGB?

Despite being one of the biggest crooks of all time in British history, six high up officials of Mossad attended his funeral which was presided over by a top Rabbi.

As for Epstein, the source of his money was Maxwell, with espionage written all over it, with Wexner as a front.

Epstein was a mediocre teacher, a mediocre financier who wasn't even qualified or licensed.

 

[shuttlt]

Despite being one of the biggest crooks of all time in British history, six high up officials of Mossad attended his funeral which was presided over by a top Rabbi.

As for Epstein, the source of his money was Maxwell, with espionage written all over it, with Wexner as a front.

Epstein was a mediocre teacher, a mediocre financier who wasn't even qualified or licensed.

Now that I know he wasn't qualified or licensed my opinion of the man has taken quite a hit.

All of a sudden I'm imagining him as the financier equivalent of My Cousin Vinny and Ghislaine is Marissa Tomei. Hopefully the whole case rests on Ghislaine's knowledge of the rear axle of the '64 Skylark.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

I saw that film, 'Con Air':

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Con_Air

So, if Ghislaine can cause a few distractions and somehow get a message for her private helicopter and pilot to wince her up - and a few fellow felons awaiting trial - why, she could be on her way to Morocco [a no-extradition country] on Jeffery's old private jet. Audacious? Yes, but then so was Epstein's hanging stunt.

I think that would work. You just have to kidnap someone important as a hostage.