Genetics has identified the Ananuki.

[leftysergeant]

In the Bible, there is mention made of the "sons of heaven" who married and produced children with the "daughters of men" prior to the Deluge.

This legend is transmitted along with the sorty of the Deluge from Mesopotamia. The first notable culture in that area, the Sumerian, was built by people who apparently arrived from the east, proibably areas in which there had been large populations of Neanderthalers on their perimeter.

Now geneticists have found that most of us carry at least some Neanderthaller genes.

The Sumerians called themselves "The Black-headed." All the peoples around them in Mesopotamia were black-haired.

The Neanderthalers would probably have been blond and blue-eyed. And they would have mated with early modern African invaders into the Caucasus.

And the children would have, because of hybrid vigor, been bloody huge and healthy.

The irony is that science has confirmed one biblical dogma, but in a way that still confirms paleontological dogma.

 

[noreligion]

In the Bible, there is mention made of the "sons of heaven" who married and produced children with the "daughters of men" prior to the Deluge.

This legend is transmitted along with the sorty of the Deluge from Mesopotamia. The first notable culture in that area, the Sumerian, was built by people who apparently arrived from the east, proibably areas in which there had been large populations of Neanderthalers on their perimeter.

Now geneticists have found that most of us carry at least some Neanderthaller genes.

The Sumerians called themselves "The Black-headed." All the peoples around them in Mesopotamia were black-haired.

The Neanderthalers would probably have been blond and blue-eyed. And they would have mated with early modern African invaders into the Caucasus.

And the children would have, because of hybrid vigor, been bloody huge and healthy.

The irony is that science has confirmed one biblical dogma, but in a way that still confirms paleontological dogma.

Just to nitpick you mean Nephilim.

 

[Limbo]

You're suggesting that Neanderthals were the Biblical sons of heaven?

 

[Nosi]

Planet X?

 

[leftysergeant]

Assume you area primative nomad wandering about a world that was changing from one geological age to another. What would you call people who looked utterly unlike anyone you had ever met and strong enough to wrestle a bull to the ground?

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

um. . ."paleontological dogma"?

Paleontology is evidence-based science, not dogma.

 

[leftysergeant]

Paleontology is evidence-based science, not dogma.

Sorry. A little flustered and trying to find a tactful way to tell the Young Earthers that my karma just ran over their dogma.

 

[leftysergeant]

Planet X?

I have seen the "Nephilim" and "Ananuki" mentioned as evidence of alien visitors by extra-terrestrial theory whackadoodles and as proof of a malevolent spirit world by religious whackos.

Seems there is a good mundane explanation for the stories.

 

[noreligion]

Assume you area primative nomad wandering about a world that was changing from one geological age to another. What would you call people who looked utterly unlike anyone you had ever met and strong enough to wrestle a bull to the ground?

People who look different and are strong. Then I would go home and invent strength training. Are you seriously trying to say that science ever would agree with a book that says pi is 3 not once but twice?

 

[geni]

The dates don't fit Neanderthals died out long before our civlisations got going and their last holdouts were spain not the middle east.

 

[geni]

People who look different and are strong. Then I would go home and invent strength training.

Err you would need to invent storids at least. Neanderthals may well be off the human scale in terms of muscle build.

Are you seriously trying to say that science ever would agree with a book that says pi is 3 not once but twice?

Science is aware of the concept of rounding.

The bible does include coverage of some historical events as well as individuals and groups that actualy existed. Nebuchadnezzar II for example.

 

[ThunderChunky]

Modern man and neanderthal coexisted for some 40,000 years until the neanderthal went extinct about 30,000 years ago. Long before agriculture, written language, etc.. I do not think the time line jives with what you are saying.

 

[noreligion]

Err you would need to invent storids at least. Neanderthals may well be off the human scale in terms of muscle build.



Science is aware of the concept of rounding.

The bible does include coverage of some historical events as well as individuals and groups that actualy existed. Nebuchadnezzar II for example.

You think those values are rounded and the bible is a scientifically accurate book?

 

[Nosi]

Sorry. A little flustered and trying to find a tactful way to tell the Young Earthers that my karma just ran over their dogma.

 

[Marduk]

In the Bible, there is mention made of the "sons of heaven" who married and produced children with the "daughters of men" prior to the Deluge.

This part of the Bible is easily dated, as we know according to biblical literalists that the deluge took place in 2304 BCE, as the Bible also credits the creation of the Earth at 4004 BCE this means that the sons of heaven must have been getting it on with the daughters of men sometime in the 4th millenium BCE. Thats around 26,000 years after the Neanderthals became extinct

This legend is transmitted along with the sorty of the Deluge from Mesopotamia. The first notable culture in that area, the Sumerian, was built by people who apparently arrived from the east, proibably areas in which there had been large populations of Neanderthalers on their perimeter.

The first notable culture in that area was the Hassunah culture, which lasted from 4700 - 4400bce until it was replaced by the Halaf Culture. The Sumerians were the first Civilisation in that area officially established in 3500bce. At these times the Neanderthals had been extinct for 26,500 years. The idea that the Sumerians arrived from the east went out of fashion around 1940

The Sumerians called themselves "The Black-headed." All the peoples around them in Mesopotamia were black-haired.

The Sumerians called themselves KI.EN.GIR (the noble lords). It was the Babylonians who called themselves the "Black headed peoples" and even then the statement was made by king Hammurabi as a reference to the lower classes

The Neanderthalers would probably have been blond and blue-eyed. And they would have mated with early modern African invaders into the Caucasus.

Racist baloney, the genes for Blond hair and blue eyes evolved long after Homo Sapiens moved into northern Europe around 13,000 years ago, some 17,000 years after the Neanderthals became extinct

And the children would have, because of hybrid vigor, been bloody huge and healthy.

The children would have been smaller than Sapiens and less stocky than Neanderthal
http://cogweb.ucla.edu/ep/Neanderthal.html

The irony is that science has confirmed one biblical dogma, but in a way that still confirms paleontological dogma.

The dogma has nothing to do with either science or the Bible, the sons of God (not the sons of heaven) or Bene Elohim are identified in Judaism as people descended from the righteous line of Seth as opposed to the children of men who are those who are descended from base and ignoble Cain
I'm quite stunned that you managed to get to that idea from these two lines

1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives, whomsoever they chose.

If cherry picking was a sport you'd be at the Olympics

I will now wait for Edge to proclaim that just because someone else who apparently has never studied the bible, Assriology, Sumerology, Anthropology, Archaeology, (or any other relevant discipline) has almost come to the same erroneous conclusion as he has (with even less evidence) that it in some way supports his position


btw, the Anunaki were not the Gods of heaven, they were Cthonic underworld deities, clearly then you are researching from Zechariah Sitchin, who is the only author who ever made that mistake.
FYI the Gods of heaven were the IGIGI

Seems there is a good mundane explanation for the stories.

An oral tradition that lasted more than 27,000 years is not a mundane explanation and the fact that you are attempting to answer a question which already has a mundane explanation seems lost on you

 

[geni]

You think those values are rounded

No reason to think otherwise. For some reason I would rarely state that a circle with a diameter of 1 meter has a circumference of 3.1415926535 8979323846 2643383279 5028841971 6939937510 5820974944 5923078164 0628620899 8628034825 3421170679 8214808651 3282306647 0938446095 5058223172 5359408128 4811174502 8410270193 8521105559 6446229489 5493038196 4428810975 6659334461 2847564823 3786783165 2712019091 4564856692 3460348610 4543266482 1339360726 0249141273 7245870066 0631558817 4881520920 9628292540 9171536436 7892590360 0113305305 4882046652 1384146951 9415116094 3305727036 5759591953 0921861173 8193261179 3105118548 0744623799 6274956735 1885752724 8912279381 8301194912 9833673362 4406566430 8602139494 6395224737 1907021798 6094370277 0539217176 2931767523 8467481846 7669405132 0005681271 4526356082 7785771342 7577896091 7363717872 1468440901 2249534301 4654958537 1050792279 6892589235 4201995611 2129021960 8640344181 5981362977 4771309960 5187072113 4999999837 2978049951 0597317328 1609631859 5024459455 3469083026 4252230825 3344685035 2619311881 7101000313 7838752886 5875332083 8142061717 7669147303 5982534904 2875546873 1159562863 8823537875 9375195778 1857780532 1712268066 1300192787 6611195909 2164201989 3809525720 1065485863 2788659361 5338182796 8230301952 0353018529 6899577362 2599413891 2497217752 8347913151 5574857242 4541506959 and so on meters

and the bible is a scientifically accurate book?

There is a lot of space between "science would never agree with the bible" and "the bible is a scientifically accurate book".

 

[noreligion]

No reason to think otherwise. For some reason I would rarely state that a circle with a diameter of 1 meter has a circumference of 3.1415926535 8979323846 2643383279 5028841971 6939937510 5820974944 5923078164 0628620899 8628034825 3421170679 8214808651 3282306647 0938446095 5058223172 5359408128 4811174502 8410270193 8521105559 6446229489 5493038196 4428810975 6659334461 2847564823 3786783165 2712019091 4564856692 3460348610 4543266482 1339360726 0249141273 7245870066 0631558817 4881520920 9628292540 9171536436 7892590360 0113305305 4882046652 1384146951 9415116094 3305727036 5759591953 0921861173 8193261179 3105118548 0744623799 6274956735 1885752724 8912279381 8301194912 9833673362 4406566430 8602139494 6395224737 1907021798 6094370277 0539217176 2931767523 8467481846 7669405132 0005681271 4526356082 7785771342 7577896091 7363717872 1468440901 2249534301 4654958537 1050792279 6892589235 4201995611 2129021960 8640344181 5981362977 4771309960 5187072113 4999999837 2978049951 0597317328 1609631859 5024459455 3469083026 4252230825 3344685035 2619311881 7101000313 7838752886 5875332083 8142061717 7669147303 5982534904 2875546873 1159562863 8823537875 9375195778 1857780532 1712268066 1300192787 6611195909 2164201989 3809525720 1065485863 2788659361 5338182796 8230301952 0353018529 6899577362 2599413891 2497217752 8347913151 5574857242 4541506959 and so on meters

Here is what 1 Kings 7:23 says

He made the Sea of cast metal, circular in shape, measuring ten cubits from rim to rim and five cubits high. It took a line of thirty cubits to measure around it.

Now where is 30/10 rounded off to be 3 except in your imagination? Next time before you make such a dumb remark you should actually read what your trying to defend.

 

[geni]

Here is what 1 Kings 7:23 says

Now where is 30/10 rounded off to be 3 except in your imagination? Next time before you make such a dumb remark you should actually read what your trying to defend.

31 rounds to 30 when you are working to 1sf.

 

[geni]

Here is what 1 Kings 7:23 says

Now where is 30/10 rounded off to be 3 except in your imagination? Next time before you make such a dumb remark you should actually read what your trying to defend.

10π rounds to 30 when you are working to 1sf.

 

[Marduk]

Just to nitpick you mean Nephilim.

I should hope not, as they were living in Canaan when Moses got home