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We don't need a stupid "what's a liberal?" argument.

Well, we do, when we will do anything to not admit we support a clearly un-liberal, reactionary, violent regime.

Of course "liberal" suddenly is perfectly clear when one wants to condemn Israel for "not being a liberal democracy".
 
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Lol! That's classic Parky.

Just like he denies everything MEMRI posts because of it being "run by ex intelligence officials". In both cases, a lame excuse for not looking at obvious facts he dislikes, much like conspiracy theorists deny everything that disagrees with them as "part of the controlled media".

The difference, of course, is that it's very easy to point out tons of stuff that isn't true in www.jewwatch.com , but parky's or the conspiracy theorist's sole "evidence" for things being false in those other sources is that they disagrees with his worldview, and therefore simply have to be false.
 
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Jew watch is a filthy antisemitic site run by a neo-Nazi group.

Hillary Clinton worked with Palestinian Media Watch on assessing the promotion of hate in Palestinian textbooks. She said;

"I believe that education is one of the keys to lasting peace in the Middle East and for this reason I am very concerned with these findings."

"Ever since we first raised this issue some years ago there still has not been an adequate repudiation of incitement by the Palestinian Authority. It is even more disturbing that the problem appears to have gotten worse. These textbooks don't give Palestinian children an education, they give them an indoctrination."

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3362776,00.html

These textbooks do not give Palestinian children an education; they give them an indoctrination. When we viewed this report in combination with other media that these children are exposed to, we see a larger picture that is disturbing. It is disturbing on a human level, it is disturbing to me as a mother, it is disturbing to me as a United States Senator, because it basically, profoundly poisons the minds of these children.
Hate has no place in the curriculum of schools, and the glorification of violence has no place in the education of children.

http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=92&doc_id=101

Parky, are you saying Hillary Clinton keeps company with the equivalent of neo-Nazis and quotes neo-Nazi material? A yes or no will do.
 
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by that standard, no one can support any cause unless it affects them directly.
epic fail.

Do you have problems with reading comprehension? I never said that.

Conservatives seek to preserve certain social rules and ideas, or even regress back to older ones.

No. Someone who wants to move society back is called a reactionary.

Progressives seek to move forward...or at least preserve certain rules and ideas that are under attack.

No someone that's protecting something from change is called a conservative.

Don't try to lecture us on what terms to use when you're obviously clueless.
 
Pakistan and Israel and Refugees and Hate

"Yet, among the injustices of the world, what the Israelis have done to the Palestinians would not even register on a moral Richter scale. The creation of Israel engendered about 750,000 Palestinian refugees (and an equal number of Jewish refugees from Arab countries) and the death of perhaps 10 thousand Palestinian Arabs. And all of that came about solely because Arab armies invaded Israel in order to destroy it at birth. Yet, when Pakistan was yanked from India and established as a Muslim state at the very same time Israel was established, that act engendered 12.5 million Muslim refugees and about a million dead Muslims (and similar numbers of Hindu refugees and deaths). Why then doesn't "Hindu" equal "Jew" in the Muslim lexicon of hate?"

Something I never thought about.

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0311/prager031511.php3
 
How you cannot see the difference is wholly unbelieveable. Sourcing Dennis Prager also is probably not a good idea.

The Quran Oath controversy guy.
 
Dennis Prager is a racist pig. Also, after Barack Obama was elected, he said that the USA was now in a state of "civil war".
 
But it's true. What Israel does in self defence pales in comparison to the brutality and sadism Arabs inflict on each other and on minorities.

Hey Parky, any advance on some of those yes or no questions I asked earlier?
 
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