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Gang stalking paranoia
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Not a government conspiracy
Been 'gangstalked'.
Here's how it really happens.
A guy wanted a relationship with me and would not accept the word 'no'. He had his friends or 'proxies' as the gangstalking community and would call them to text each other whenever one of them saw me.
He showed up wherever I was for a while there, and when he realised I was taking note of his behaviour he would get others to do so who would then crap on about what a great guy he was in my hearing range and what a bitch I was for refusing him.
This is not sophisticated surveillance because I have the secret to the location of the Holy Grail, some insider knowledge of lizard people, climate change conspiracies or whatever it is that people blame for this phenomenon. I am your ordinary average girl.
The guy bugged my house, and stalked me because he is individually a narcissistic freak who could not accept no for an answer. His proxies were clients - I said no because he was a drug dealer, which is I assume how he could afford to bug my house.
Obsessive stalkers can bug peoples houses, do get 'proxies' to do their dirty work and are hard to get rid of. Google narcissistic personality disorder and stalking to get an idea of how freaky they can be. Some can stalk up to 40 years.
It is a real shame that some genuinely sick people and attention seekers who are likely trying to make out they are more important in the scheme of things than what they really are have hijacked this probably very rare phenomenon and made it into some sort of joke.
I've spoken to a few people in person, and the ones I believe are genuine have all been attractive women and all have been trying to get away from obsessive men with links to organised crime like drugs. I learnt alot along the way about psychological principles such as mobbing in the work place and the bystander effect. I spoke to some of his proxies and some of them hated what they were doing but were sadly addicted to drugs and owed money.
My stalker pissed off when I told the police about the drug dealing and named names. I did not tell the police about the bugging and the following because, hell, who would believe it.
So gangstalking = sometimes real
Global government conspiracy behind gangstalking = delusional crap
Been 'gangstalked'.
Here's how it really happens.
A guy wanted a relationship with me and would not accept the word 'no'. He had his friends or 'proxies' as the gangstalking community and would call them to text each other whenever one of them saw me.
He showed up wherever I was for a while there, and when he realised I was taking note of his behaviour he would get others to do so who would then crap on about what a great guy he was in my hearing range and what a bitch I was for refusing him.
This is not sophisticated surveillance because I have the secret to the location of the Holy Grail, some insider knowledge of lizard people, climate change conspiracies or whatever it is that people blame for this phenomenon. I am your ordinary average girl.
The guy bugged my house, and stalked me because he is individually a narcissistic freak who could not accept no for an answer. His proxies were clients - I said no because he was a drug dealer, which is I assume how he could afford to bug my house.
Obsessive stalkers can bug peoples houses, do get 'proxies' to do their dirty work and are hard to get rid of. Google narcissistic personality disorder and stalking to get an idea of how freaky they can be. Some can stalk up to 40 years.
It is a real shame that some genuinely sick people and attention seekers who are likely trying to make out they are more important in the scheme of things than what they really are have hijacked this probably very rare phenomenon and made it into some sort of joke.
I've spoken to a few people in person, and the ones I believe are genuine have all been attractive women and all have been trying to get away from obsessive men with links to organised crime like drugs. I learnt alot along the way about psychological principles such as mobbing in the work place and the bystander effect. I spoke to some of his proxies and some of them hated what they were doing but were sadly addicted to drugs and owed money.
My stalker pissed off when I told the police about the drug dealing and named names. I did not tell the police about the bugging and the following because, hell, who would believe it.
So gangstalking = sometimes real
Global government conspiracy behind gangstalking = delusional crap
fromdownunder
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I can relate to this because one of my daughters recently went through a similar situation. Her partner went off his meds (again), started smoking pot (again), and decided to use his friends to get back what he wanted.
But as you say, it is not what gangstalkers refer to - it is just somebody using their personal network of "friends" (using the term very loosely) to try to attain a personal goal. It is not a conspiracy.
And as you also say, calling the police and getting an intervention order usually puts a pretty quick stop to this sort of thing. "REAL" Gangstalking victims cannot call the Police, as the Police are apparently part of it.
Norm
Hi fromdownunder,
Hope your daughter is okay. It is pretty freaky to realise there are men like that out there, and they can be anyone; your neighbour, your work colleague, the guy you wave at when getting your mail.
Good thing she's got you looking out for her.
Hope your daughter is okay. It is pretty freaky to realise there are men like that out there, and they can be anyone; your neighbour, your work colleague, the guy you wave at when getting your mail.
Good thing she's got you looking out for her.
Eddie Dane
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Man, that is a uniquely unfortunate situation.
Its bad enough having a stalker. But having Johnny the mobster or Harry the drug dealer fall in "love" with you seriously sucks.
These people can actually influence people to participate.
It also rules out the only effective anti-stalking strategy. You know, the one that involves a baseball bat and severe head trauma.
I advise you to move far away from this sicko. But I'm sure that strategy had already occurred to you.
WildCat
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Many years ago, back in the 80s, I was sent to an apartment by a real estate management company to change the locks of the tenant who lived there. He told me that people would come into his apartment when he was away and rearrange the clothes in his dresser, move things around, bugged his apt., etc, but never actually take anything. He had recorded a long series of "manifestos" (for lack of a better term) on cassette tapes he played for me the whole time I was there, detailing one crazy conspiracy against him after another. The man was clearly schizophrenic.
A month or 2 later he was found floating in Lake Michigan, an apparent suicide. I guess the only good part of this story is he didn't take anyone else's life as schizophrenics sometimes do.
It may not be a bad thing that these days people have the internet with which to share their fears with each other, rather than have to vent by making cassette tapes that no one else is likely to hear. Maybe having the internet around back then would have given him an outlet, and he wouldn't have felt so alone and hopeless until he jumped into the lake?
A month or 2 later he was found floating in Lake Michigan, an apparent suicide. I guess the only good part of this story is he didn't take anyone else's life as schizophrenics sometimes do.
It may not be a bad thing that these days people have the internet with which to share their fears with each other, rather than have to vent by making cassette tapes that no one else is likely to hear. Maybe having the internet around back then would have given him an outlet, and he wouldn't have felt so alone and hopeless until he jumped into the lake?
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Justin39640
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I recently talked to a woman who had the same thing happen to her. She broke up with a controlling man who then bugged her house, cloned her cell phone, got into her emails, social networking profiles, etc etc. She tried changing numbers, emails, even her ISP, but he always got back in. I noticed and she told me about it when she realized he was back logging into her accounts and had blocked me (and I'd assume others) from contacting her. She was kinda freaked out and very annoyed. I felt very bad for her.
Men are crazy. Sometimes I'm ashamed to be one when I hear these horror stories.
Why these men think things like this would work is beyond me. If someone don't want me around, I'm not going to be around. lol
This should be made the manifesto for real men everywhere.
Rogue1stclass
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For the most part it is. It's the "real men" part that is the problem here.
Gang stalking does exist. Take, for example, the schools where students are called "gay" even though they are not. There was an earlier post that challenged to "name a single gang stalker". Well, when someone walks by my cube at work and calls me a "fag", (even though I am heterosexual), I sometimes follow them and note their name. So, I have a whole notebook full of the names of gang stalkers. Which, I can't do anything about because I am dependent on good references and re-employability at those companies. If someone grabs the ID of a gang stalker in the general community, they can't write about it, because they are in jail. Think of school-yard bullying extended to adults in the community - that is gang stalking.
LightinDarkness
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As we've been through before....no. Stalking is real, of course. But as the statistics show, its almost always done by a handful (usually one, actually) person and its personally motivated. There are some very, very sparse historical examples of things like the Stasi that actually did what could be called gang stalking for political and propaganda purposes. But the type of gang stalking here - stalking random people for no obvious reason at costs that would be in the millions of dollars per victim - does not exist. There is a reason why gang stalking claims line up so well with paranoid schizophrenia symptoms.
Your story here sounds exactly like paranoid schizophrenia to me. We have a few options here:
1) For no obvious reason someone has hired and paid off dozens of coworkers to covertly harass and stalk you at a high cost.
2) Your coworkers don't like you and call you names.
Which option is more likely?
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Words change their meanings over time. Calling someone gay rarely has anything to do with them being homosexual, any more than it is calling them happy or lacking restraint. In that context, "gay" simply means something along the lines of "the opposite of cool". In case you have trouble understanding that, "coo"l in that context does not refer to temperature.
What children calling each other gay has to do with your claims of gang stalking I have absolutely no idea.
Do you ride a Harley-Davidson?
So, you have a whole notebook full of records of your own stalking, but no evidence that anyone has ever stalked you. In fact, your own words clearly state that no-one has ever stalked you. Stalking involves repeated actions by an individual, by definition. Since that has not happened to you, you have not been stalked. End of story.
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He could be collecting evidence to be used in his sexual harassment/negative working environment complaint.
That is, if it's real, and not just paranoia.
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If he was going to make a formal complaint to the company, it would be collecting evidence. I don't think our friend is planning to do that.
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Sorry I can't post URLs yet but google Mike Corley he's a Usenet Celebrity
here is his web page www dot mi5 dot com
He thinks he is the victim of the biggest 'Gang Stalking' of all time involving the BBC and even Hollywood movies.
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For me the most compelling argument against this sort of thing as a widespread phenomenon, is the lack of any defectors that come on TV or radio and said "yes, I did this"... just for the attention. Trying to tell me there's nobody that when approached for this stalking plan, would play along and then blow the whole thing wide open, for attention, money, or even just moral opposition? There are plenty of people with nothing to lose or that don't fear the consequences as long as they can stick it to The Man.