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Galloway is back

A platform of "troops out of Afghanistan" in a largely Muslim community was going to be very popular. Almost as popular were his excoriating remarks about Blair being a "war criminal", a view held not just amongst Bradford Muslims.

All three parties received a massive bloody nose, delivered for the third time (Bethnel Green then Bow). As the electorate's version of the middle finger, it's hard to see who else could deliver said finger as well as Gorgeous George.
 
I, for one, salute his courage, his strength, his indefatigability.

I actually agree with much of what he stands for, and am happy he has been re-elected. Politics nowadays is full of boring, media friendly, bland grey suits who seem to be unable to think for themselves but tow a party line, often against common sense, spouting out the same old lies about war, terrorism and especially the economy.

Hopefully he will hold up a mirror to the two faced lies that are current in modern UK politics.

It was funny listening to the Conservative's "Auntie Tom", Baroness Warsi on the Today program, trying not to mention that they had lost over 22% of the vote and spouting how it was almost a positive thing and a lot worse for Labour
 
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I actually agree with much of what he stands for, and am happy he has been re-elected. Politics nowadays is full of boring, media friendly, bland grey suits who seem to be unable to think for themselves but tow a party line, often against common sense, spouting out the same old lies about war, terrorism and especially the economy.

George doesn't think for himself. He's entirely predictable, he toes a pretty conformist "radical" line, and he's been spouting the same old lies since before the Soviet Union fell (an event he called the "biggest catastrophe" of his life). He consistently supports anti-western dictators. I'm not sure why you're so enamored of the fact that his apologetic for tyranny comes with flair.
 
More to do with coverage than courage, but I agree with the rest of the sentiment.
 
Results in full (with vote share and change since 2010 in brackets):


George Galloway (Respect) 18,341 (55.89%, +52.83%)

Imran Hussain (Labour) 8,201 (24.99%, -20.36%)

Jackie Whiteley (Conservative) 2,746 (8.37%, -22.78%)

Jeanette Sunderland (Liberal Democrat) 1,505 (4.59%, -7.08%)

Sonja McNally (UKIP) 1,085 (3.31%, +1.31%)

Dawud Islam (Green) 481 (1.47%, -0.85%)

Neil Craig (Democratic Nationalists) 344 (1.05%)

Howling Laud Hope (Monster Raving Loony Party) 111 (0.34%)

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Four hellish years of this again.

And this:

George Galloway takes on the US Senate and wins

British MP George Galloway has told US senators who accused him of profiting from Iraq oil dealings their claims were the "mother of all smokescreens":



George doesn't think for himself. He's entirely predictable, he toes a pretty conformist "radical" line, and he's been spouting the same old lies since before the Soviet Union fell (an event he called the "biggest catastrophe" of his life). I'm not sure why you're so enamored of the fact that his apologetic for tyranny comes with flair.

Oh really? Galloway was opposing the Saddam Hussein regime when British and American governments were supporting it - see video above (09.03).
 
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George doesn't think for himself. He's entirely predictable, he toes a pretty conformist "radical" line, and he's been spouting the same old lies since before the Soviet Union fell (an event he called the "biggest catastrophe" of his life). He consistently supports anti-western dictators. I'm not sure why you're so enamored of the fact that his apologetic for tyranny comes with flair.

1) Who does George's thinking for him? For bonus points, provide citations.

2) Please make some accurate predicition about George. Standard JREF testing rules apply.

3) Compare and contrast: 'Conformist' & 'radical'.

4) Essay question. Title: 'Why Candidates in a Democratic Election Should Be Restricted to Advocating the Status Quo'.

Marking scheme will include considerable weighting for flair.
 
Politics nowadays is full of boring, media friendly, bland grey suits who seem to be unable to think for themselves but tow a party line, often against common sense, spouting out the same old lies about war, terrorism and especially the economy.
Point of order, it's 'toe', actually, not 'tow'! ;)
 
1) Who does George's thinking for him? For bonus points, provide citations.

2) Please make some accurate predicition about George. Standard JREF testing rules apply.

3) Compare and contrast: 'Conformist' & 'radical'.

4) Essay question. Title: 'Why Candidates in a Democratic Election Should Be Restricted to Advocating the Status Quo'.

Marking scheme will include considerable weighting for flair.

Ouch!
 
An interesting result for UK (and in particular English) politics....

It represents a monumental swing away from Labour - and also a massive disillusionment with the main 3 parties. Now, I guess it could be that Bradford is indeed just a special case (Like Hatty has suggested....) - with a high immigrant and muslim population - but that does ignore that traditionally these have been overwhelmingly Labour voters - if labour loses here, then in northern England towns like Leeds, Oldham, Blackburn etc. it's vulnerable. Now, maybe this is just down to "Gorgeous" George - the walking ego, the shameless self-publicist and so can't be replicated with a lower profile candidate - again possible. But given that politics is now increasingly about the leader (ie people vote increasingly for their local MP based on the national leaders....), then there is scope for some other party (Respect? UKIP? Greens?) to exploit this disenfranchisement with the main 3 Westminster group.

After all, the SNP have wiped out large swathes of the Labour vote in Scotland - Labour can't assume to always carry northern English towns now either....

Interesting as I thought (probably still think..) that the lack of mainstream choice would result in a split to the right - with a UKIP style party of anti-immigration doing well at the next election. But maybe the Tories are far enough to the right to mean that they'll pick up those votes without any problem, leaving the split along the left vote - with the left wing lib dem vote deserting both labour and the lib dems....

Fwiw, I may well have voted for George - even though the guy is a bit of a moron with some dodgy history with autocratic regimes. Why? Well, I wouldn't have voted for the three main parties, and so who else was there? I think I'd rather have George with his many flaws than an identikit politics as usual yellow, blue or red Tory-lite who would continue to take someplace like Bradford for granted.....

one last thought - this could bode interesting times for the mayoral elections and police chief elections - as these will give very significant platforms for charismatic individuals not affiliated with major parties to build big local power bases and pave the way for future Westminster runs....
 
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I'm glad I live in a country where Communists have next to zero chance of being elected anywhere.
 
I'm glad I live in a country where Communists have next to zero chance of being elected anywhere.

I'm glad I live somewhere where there is even a smidgen of deviation from three parties all offering different flavours of neo-liberal right wing consensus....

(not sure GG is best described as a communist - didn't hear much about collectivisation in his campaign speeches ;) )
 
This analysis is quite interesting

The Guardian followed him for few hours last week as he toured the Bradford University campus and it was like being in the retinue of a Hollywood star. Every step he took, someone called out his first name and went in for a hug or asked to have their photo taken. The Guardian's photographer, a veteran of 25 years of covering byelections, said he had never seen anything like it.

The majority of those pledging their support had a number of things in common. They were either a first time voter or a disaffected Labourite, and all wanted to congratulate him on his robust stance against the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Many said they used to watch him on Press TV, the English-language Iranian controlled channel – until it was taken off air by the government earlier this year.

More still had watched YouTube clips of Galloway ripping into his detractors, whether in front of the US senate in 2005 or in a classically adversarial interview with Sky News about Gaza. These, Galloway proudly refers to as his "greatest hits". Only a handful recognised him primarily from his appearance on Celebrity Big Brother in 2006, when he dressed in a red unitard and pretended to be Rula Lenska's pussycat.

A common theme was frustration at clan politics in Bradford, known by the Urdu word Bradree, meaning relation or family, which here has become a byword for exclusivity. Many felt that too many important decisions were taken in Bradford by a small number of Pakistanis who came from Mirpur, a small town in Kashmir, and who had carved up the most important Labour party positions between them over the years.

The Labour candidate in the byelection seemed to many to fit exactly into that mould. Imran Hussain, a 34-year-old barrister from Bradford with Mirpur heritage, was following in his father's footsteps when he became involved in the local Labour party, rising two years ago to become deputy leader of the city council.

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Furqan Naeem, senior Labour Student member and the chair of University of Bradford Student Union Council, said at the count: "George has captured the hearts and minds of the young students – especially people from Asian backgrounds who were previously not political. They have become the driving force of his campaign."

"He has visited the campus a number of times. The reason is that he resonates with young people on certain issues. They don't understand what's going on but they see George as a figure who voted against the Iraq war and he is big on Palestine, which a lot of Asian people care about. They see a man of principle there – although personally I think he has been very opportunistic. It's not that he doesn't have a right to come here, but he has never done anything for Bradford before – he just sensed an opportunity to win a seat."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/mar/30/george-galloway-star-power-bradford
 
I'm glad I live somewhere where there is even a smidgen of deviation from three parties all offering different flavours of neo-liberal right wing consensus....

(not sure GG is best described as a communist - didn't hear much about collectivisation in his campaign speeches ;) )


As if having a tool like George Galloway win an election in anything is something to be proud of.
 
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As if having a tool like George Galloway win an election in anything is something to be proud of.

So we both agree he's a bit of a tool - great. Glad to see he's no longer a "communist"....

You seem very dismissive of democracy - this guy has just been elected with 50% of the vote - he's the person that the people of Bradford have chosen. He ran on an anti-war ticket, anti mainstream politics ticket and that resonated. Why be proud that such a candidate could not win (in your opinion) in Australia?

the wider point is completely valid - a functioning democracy needs to have the ability to allow people to vote for people outside a very narrow political spectrum - otherwise it is not a true democracy. We have 3 main parties who are all exceptionally similar - so it is indeed good for democracy that someone outside this narrow range has won. Hopefully it will mean that politicians start listening to what people want - whatever that is. To be glad that this can't happen (supposedly) in Australia seems rather perverse.
 
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