Gage: Hell No I Ain't Reading Mackey's White Paper

rjblaskiewicz said:
All,

I am looking for a reference for the next SI article; I swear it's on-topic b/c it's related to that Truth event.

I am looking for a better reference for the following file than scribd:

XXX.scribd.com/doc/21193128/09-10-09-Lehner-Order

I don't have a legal database at Georgia Tech. (Hell, as of the first we won't have the OED. Damn.) I was wondering if someone does have a better reference?

Thanks in advance,

Bob
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I have all the filed documents from that fiasco. If you want to PM me an e-mail address, I can send them to you. :)

ETA: Or you can download them here as well as I've just loaded them up directly to my Legaltainment™ site:

https://sites.google.com/site/legaltainment/home/nyccan-t
 
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DGM said:
That's what non professionally published works are called.
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That would cover a lot of stuff in print, DGM, so that's not in fact accurate.

My understanding of a white paper is that it's usually a policy or advisory document commissioned from experts by government or some other decision-making body. In what way does Mackey's paper qualify as such?
 
ergo said:
That would cover a lot of stuff in print, DGM, so that's not in fact accurate.

My understanding of a white paper is that it's usually a policy or advisory document commissioned from experts by government or some other decision-making body. In what way does Mackey's paper qualify as such?
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According to Wiki:

A white paper is an authoritative report or guide that helps solve a problem. White papers are used to educate readers and help people make decisions, and are often requested and used in politics, policy, business, and technical fields. In commercial use, the term has also come to refer to documents used by businesses as a marketing or sales tool. Policy makers frequently request white papers from universities or academic personnel to assist policy developers with expert opinions or relevant research.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_paper

Seems to fit to me.

I suppose my original post was not that accurate. Sorry
 
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ergo said:
That would cover a lot of stuff in print, DGM, so that's not in fact accurate.

My understanding of a white paper is that it's usually a policy or advisory document commissioned from experts by government or some other decision-making body. In what way does Mackey's paper qualify as such?
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Huh, I guess it does not fit YOUR definition of "white paper."

Now do you have anything relevant to add, or you just JAQ'ing off?
 
beachnut said:
Gage does not have the time to do research, it will interfere with his fraud of getting people to donate to A&E.


2007 FORM 990-EZ - gross receipts - $45,132 2008 FORM 990-EZ - gross - $149,579 - 2009 FORM 990-EZ - gross - $344,570 -
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Where did you source that data? I'd like to push it under the nose of a couple of truthers :D
 
ergo said:
That would cover a lot of stuff in print, DGM, so that's not in fact accurate.

My understanding of a white paper is that it's usually a policy or advisory document commissioned from experts by government or some other decision-making body. In what way does Mackey's paper qualify as such?
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As usual, your understanding is wrong........:rolleyes:
 
DGM said:
According to Wiki:

A white paper is an authoritative report or guide that helps solve a problem. White papers are used to educate readers and help people make decisions, and are often requested and used in politics, policy, business, and technical fields. In commercial use, the term has also come to refer to documents used by businesses as a marketing or sales tool. Policy makers frequently request white papers from universities or academic personnel to assist policy developers with expert opinions or relevant research.
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Yup. Thought so.
 
DGM said:
According to Wiki:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_paper

Seems to fit to me.

I suppose my original post was not that accurate. Sorry
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Well, it doesn't matter. The point here is that white papers are often written without being commissioned by some "authority". And they're made available simply to ensure that knowledge gets distributed. In my profession, I'm most familiar with technical whitepapers, such as the ones Intel have composed regarding either networking or processor technology:
http://www.intel.com/support/network/sb/CS-030881.htm

... or ones like the following example from Cisco, regarding best practices for network security:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk869/tk769/technologies_white_paper09186a008014f945.shtml

Symantec has put out a ton of them in order to disseminate compromise information:
http://www.symantec.com/business/security_response/whitepapers.jsp

These aren't commissioned by anyone other than the authors themselves, and aimed at nothing more than the industry professionals.

The point here is that it's in this truther's self interest to misrepresent what a white paper actually is. Like anything else, the value and perceived authority in such works lies not who supposedly "orders" it to be created. Rather, it lies in the professionalism of the author(s) and care for accuracy that they possess.
 
Who the hell cares what the paper is called?


Say it is called "Wanda." Now that it has been renamed, is there anything *substantive* about it that we should have our attention drawn to?

Or is this whole "what it's called" thing the only semi-criticism anyone can come up with?
 
I haven't misrepresented what a white paper is. In fact, the definition I provided is the one that came the closest to the wiki definition here. What I'm pointing out is simply that calling this paper a "white paper" is simply trying to give it a veneer of definitive authority, and some hint of a commissioned work when in fact, it appears to be a self-initiated project by Ryan Mackey, and largely his own opinion, at that. This is not what most people would consider a white paper.
 
ergo said:
I haven't misrepresented what a white paper is. In fact, the definition I provided is the one that came the closest to the wiki definition here. What I'm pointing out is simply that calling this paper a "white paper" is simply trying to give it a veneer of definitive authority, and some hint of a commissioned work when in fact, it appears to be a self-initiated project by Ryan Mackey, and largely his own opinion, at that. This is not what most people would consider a white paper.
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So let us get this straight, you think most people think that a "white paper" is a commissioned work, and that is your entire analysis of the white paper?

Super.

Great to have you back from your vacation, we had been missing stunningly significant analysis like this. ^^rolls eyes^^.
 
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