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Merged Gadaffi captured or killed.

Buncrana said:
This is true. However after nearly 23 years, and especially after the fall of the old regime in Triploi, I'm sure if there was a hint of any evidence whatsoever,it would have been presented in jubilance. The best we ever got was Majid Giaka.

You have to wonder, just how many Giaka's are there in this world?..
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Oh sure. Nothing incriminating from Jalil, and nothing incriminating from Musa Kusa, who was actually the terrorist mastermind who planned the whole thing if you believe the "Libya-did-it" fantasy. I think if there had been anything at all that might have shown involvement, it would have come out earlier this year at the latest.

At this stage, if anything does emerge, I would be suspicious of fabrication. But I think it would be hard to fabricate convincing evidence to show involvement in something that didn't actually happen, which is the problem they have. Remember, Giaka was only said to have "excruciating detail" in the press releases. All he actually had was a coached story of having seen Megrahi and Fhimah take a brown hardshell case through customs the previous day. Or maybe it was a month earlier. Or six months earlier. No, come to think of it, it was definitely 20th December. And brown? If I say it was a hardshell is that OK, or do I have to say Samsonite?

Not easy to come by documentation that proves a suitcase went where no suitcase actually went, over 20 years later. Vague assertions of "involvement" without tying it either to Megrahi or KM180 might be more practical.

Rolfe.
 
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Darat said:
I think many of the Libyans consider that he was an unwanted dictator who breached the rights they believe they should have, such as the right not to rounded up in the middle of the night and shot without trial and things like that, add in the usual corruption and there is plenty for the Libyans to choose from!
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That's the problem with legal systems. You have to prove that such rights existed and weren't simply believed to have existed. Same with corruption. It is difficult sometimes to show that a dictator has breached the laws of the country when he gives himself complete power. The rebels can say he has no legitimacy (or the ICC or the UN can say he has no legitimacy and can stand trial on some universal rights trial) but those trying him also need to show their legitimacy too.

They do have plenty of grounds for vengeance but that's a somewhat different story.
 
Buncrana said:
'That's for Lockerbie' with a picture of his corpse.

http://twitpic.com/738xd1


A false reality has been formed before our eyes. There are lots of bad people in the world, it's how we behave that concerns me and what's unfolding right now is a false reality, the end result of which is always more bloodshed, more theft and more iniquity not less.


ETA: Somebody with a semblance of reality, especially since he has just returned from Libya - Bloody Spring
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Read the article. It was hilarious. The suck up to the Gaddaffi regime was even more hilarious. Fulvio Grimaldi has for quite sometime been turning into a fanatical ideologue.

Another person who longs for big brothers bullet in his brain. Oh and I have a couple of Libyan friends who might want a word with him.
 
MG1962 said:
Well he did have a date booked with the world court. However he always stated he would go down fighting, and it seems thats exactly what happened.
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if you describe hiding in a drain like a rat after attempting to run away as combat then I agree
I think you could say that he talked a good fight, but then don't they all til the end comes
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Luzz said:
Even under war there are "rules". The guy was injured, he put no resistance, so why kill him?

I am not defending him, just curious, I want to know the logic and reasoning on why there was a need to kill him.
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Because he is not worth the time, and money that it would cost in court process. He had 40+ years to prove himself as a leader. The world gave him a chance. The UN accepted Libya after LIbya allegedly gave up WMDs and made reparations to Libya's victims of terrorism. But Gadhafi did nothing but prove himself, and his cohorts, including Megrahi, as nothing but a pathetic, cowardice, who think(s) that terrorism and tyranny will move the former regime forward. Said regime, whom was paid well -e.g. the Lockerbie bomber, and many others, with expensive homes, cars and lifestyle - poor Megrahi's cars were stolen, and his alleged cancer drugs were stolen from the palatial Megrahi home, during the rebel fighting...booo hooo..... while other common Libyans' blood spilled in the streets at the hands of Megrahi's masters) and the people of LIbya starved and the victims of said regime in LIbya and worldwide, were tortured and murdered for four decades. He and his thugs (including Megrahi) are camel dung. Nothing more, and should be thrown in the hole where camel dung belongs.

Does that explain it for you?

~ Bunntamas
 
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Marduk said:
if you describe hiding in a drain like a rat after attempting to run away as combat then I agree
I think you could say that he talked a good fight, but then don't they all til the end comes
:D
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HA! Totally agree. Ironic that he died while attempting to crawl out of a drain like a cockroach / rat, after calling the people of Libya cockroaches and rats during the rebellion.

~B.
 
Buncrana said:
'That's for Lockerbie' with a picture of his corpse.

http://twitpic.com/738xd1


A false reality has been formed before our eyes. There are lots of bad people in the world, it's how we behave that concerns me and what's unfolding right now is a false reality, the end result of which is always more bloodshed, more theft and more iniquity not less.


ETA: Somebody with a semblance of reality, especially since he has just returned from Libya - Bloody Spring
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Excellent! Although, technically, we don't know for sure that Gadaffi ordered it, or if Megrahi was acting on his own. The only thing we know for sure is that Megrahi did it.

That photo is awesome!
 
Marduk said:
if you describe hiding in a drain like a rat after attempting to run away as combat then I agree
I think you could say that he talked a good fight, but then don't they all til the end comes
:D
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Maybe you should review where that drain was, and what was going on at the time too
 
So it seems his convoy was hit by a Predator drone strike and a NATO combat aircraft. Then their position was relayed to the rebels.
 
Well, I guess not everybody is happy...
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez:
"I was talking with (Cuban leader) Raul Castro. He was telling me '(Gadhafi) is going to get killed for sure.' Regrettably, Gadhafi's death has been confirmed. He was murdered. Well, this is another attempt against life. What else can I say?" Chavez said, as reported by CNN affiliate Globovision.

The president also said Gadhafi will be "remembered all of my life as a great fighter, a revolutionary and a martyr."
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To be honest when I heard most of his children had gone to Algeria a month or so ago, I assumed that Gaddafi had gone with them but this was kept quiet to spare Algerian embarrassment.

Actually, I still think that is probably what has happened.

I guess the good thing about being announced officially dead in a drain (with lovely graffiti) is that now you are free to do whatever you want.

Three cheers for us. Now, how about another crucifix desecration ritual - they are always fun aren't they?
 
Rolfe said:
That newspaper front page is sickening, in more ways than I can count.
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Well, they crucified News of the World and all their sins went away.

The very the idea that it was for Lockerbie is sickening. As if people after some 40 years didn't want payback? No, let's do it for those who openly supported him for the last eight years.
 
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