Fyziks 101

[Bananaman]

Hmm..Imagine the cost to take those buildings down manually.Heh, i think i might be on to something. lol

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As opposed to the cost of what actually happened?

Classic.

Bananaman.

 

[Tweeter]

Ok.. pay hundreds of millions and years to dismantle or get insurance to build a new tower.

 

[A W Smith]

Ok.. pay hundreds of millions and years to dismantle or get insurance to build a new tower.

You are aware there was an insurance payout? correct? Even for the dismantling of the deutsche bank building?

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=134701

Deutsche Bank called the building a total loss. Its insurers, Allianz Global Risks U.S. Insurance Company and AXA Corporate Solutions Insurance Company, said it could be cleaned and reoccupied. Under a settlement this year, the development corporation acquired the property for $90 million. It is to pay up to $45 million for cleanup and dismantling, with the insurers meeting costs above that. The Gilbane Building Company will oversee the project.

It now seems likely that the price tag for demolition will exceed $45 million. But Ms. Peterson said: "Cost is not a consideration. The extra cost will go to the insurers. What's a consideration for us is doing it safely."

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Ok.. pay hundreds of millions and years to dismantle or get insurance to build a new tower.

I thought we were talking about non-covert use of your revolutionary demolition method. You don't understand how insurance works, do you?

 

[Corsair 115]

Just to repeat a pertinent request from earlier in this thread...

Math please. Let's see a real analysis. If what you say is true, you should be able to do some simple Newtonian and solid body physics to show this.

Anyone want to offer the over/under on the length of time it'll be before TF attempts an answer to the question?

 

[Stupid]

Anyone care to explain how the top section of the towers blew apart before
the decent of the support structure?

The lower structure was the stronger of the two parts because it was it was still upright and plumb. The upper section was falling on to it, while leaning, so it's lowest corner (leading edge) became the weakest area.
Buildings are built to be strongest whilst upright, not tilted.

Try dropping a wood box so it lands "squarely" (flat) on one side--minimal damage.
If you drop that box onto it's corner--greater damage.

=S=

 

[Shrinker]

Turbofan, I have a question. How did the top 2/3 storeys of this tower destroy the other 15?



(Sorry you'll have to turn your head on its side. Careful nothing falls out.)

 

[Evilgiraffe]

Turbofan, I have a question. How did the top 2/3 storeys of this tower destroy the other 15?



(Sorry you'll have to turn your head on its side. Careful nothing falls out.)

[TF]

This is an appalling analogy for the collapse of WTC1/2. There were at least 4 impacts on the stack of cards before they collapsed. The twin towers were only hit once each before they collapsed... and the house of cards wasn't on fire!

Therefore I'm cleverer than all of you and I win!

[/TF]



Seriously, nice find Shrinker. I hate to think how long it took to build that thing.

 

[Confuseling]

I can't help thinking about bullets in these asinine 'small things can't hurt big things' threads.

Don't try fysiks at home, kids.

 

[GlennB]

Just to repeat a pertinent request from earlier in this thread...

Anyone want to offer the over/under on the length of time it'll be before TF attempts an answer to the question?

Could do, but we'd all be dead before the "overs" got paid out.

eta: just realised my mistake. In fact we'd be waiting till the Sun turned to a small lump of charcoal and we still wouldn't have seen the maths.

 

[Turbofan]

[TF]

This is an appalling analogy for the collapse of WTC1/2. There were at least 4 impacts on the stack of cards before they collapsed. The twin towers were only hit once each before they collapsed... and the house of cards wasn't on fire!

Therefore I'm cleverer than all of you and I win!

[/TF]



Seriously, nice find Shrinker. I hate to think how long it took to build that thing.

Seriously, nice find Shrinker!

These are the people I'm debating. Poeple that think a tower of cards is
at all constructed like the Twin Towers.

I wonder how well that card structure would have stood if the kid used glue,
or tape to hold the cards in place.

I'm sure the Towers would have been better off without welds and bolts.
The engineers should have just stacked up all the steel instead of paying
all of those contractors to bolt and weld the assemblies.

But...yeah... thanks for that awesome find Shrinker. YOu have debunked
AE911 and all of their engineers.

Still waiting for that NIST report. I wonder if they'll have a card tower for
their experiment? LMAO

 

[~enigma~]

But...yeah... thanks for that awesome find Shrinker. YOu have debunked
AE911 and all of their engineers.

You mean Mike Rotch?

 

[Turbofan]

Psst... Turbofan?

You rather conspicuously continue to avoid this question.

Why is that?

Did it ever occur to you , that I'm ignoring you and your repetitive useless
questions? Same goes for some of the other members.

"We've" already tried to show this on MSM. One case in particular was
Steven Jones

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ayYXNo0i_Cs

You see, they (MSNBC) didn't have the balls to show the video!

You may also recall the original MSM news broadcasts from 9/11 (which
are archived) were pulled from public view!

So keep asking your dumb questions about why we don't go to MSM!

 

[~enigma~]

You see, they (MSNBC) didn't have the balls to show the video!

No other possible reason? And you morons claim we are in denial!!!!

 

[Confuseling]

Turbofan: If the collapse of the towers was so odd and in such violation of the laws of physics that a layperson such as yourself can perceive these oddities and violations merely by looking at photos of the collapse, then why hasn't any of this been discerned and/or revealed by a single MSM outlet, law enforcement agency, or investigative body on the planet?

Psst... Turbofan?

You rather conspicuously continue to avoid this question.

Why is that?

Emphasis emphasised.

Really. Honestly. Don't think Iran or China would be interested?

 

[nicepants]

I'm having as much trouble figuring him out as you... apparently he still doesn't understand that bricks and 110-story office buildings aren't the same...

Hmm...if the WTC towers behave just like bricks (As Turbofan asserts), then the plane should have disintegrated at impact, no? I'm not aware of any plane that could penetrate a 108ft thick brick wall......are you a no-planer, Turbo? Or do you admit that a stack of bricks is not a valid comparison to an office building?

 

[defaultdotxbe]

You see, they (MSNBC) didn't have the balls to show the video!

did it ever occur to you that maybe there is another reason they dont show it?

 

[Shrinker]

Seriously, nice find Shrinker!

These are the people I'm debating. Poeple that think a tower of cards is
at all constructed like the Twin Towers.

I wonder how well that card structure would have stood if the kid used glue,
or tape to hold the cards in place.

I'm sure the Towers would have been better off without welds and bolts.
The engineers should have just stacked up all the steel instead of paying
all of those contractors to bolt and weld the assemblies.

But...yeah... thanks for that awesome find Shrinker. YOu have debunked
AE911 and all of their engineers.

Still waiting for that NIST report. I wonder if they'll have a card tower for
their experiment? LMAO

I didn't ask you to compare and contrast. I didn't make any comparisons myself. I asked how did the top 15% of the tower destroyed all the rest. Perhaps you could try answering.

 

[Grizzly Bear]

Seriously, nice find Shrinker!

These are the people I'm debating. Poeple that think a tower of cards is
at all constructed like the Twin Towers.

Jesus.... did anybody get a whiff of that irony? The same guy arguing bricks would be a valid comparison is arguing that a tower of cards isn't a valid analogy.

I wonder how well that card structure would have stood if the kid used glue, or tape to hold the cards in place.

Remember the hercules beatle versus the human trying to lift 800 times their own weight? You're not putting too much thought into that are you?

LMAO

Keep "LOL'ing" So far that's about the only coherent thing you've done in this thread

Hmm...if the WTC towers behave just like bricks (As Turbofan asserts), then the plane should have disintegrated at impact, no? I'm not aware of any plane that could penetrate a 108ft thick brick wall......are you a no-planer, Turbo? Or do you admit that a stack of bricks is not a valid comparison to an office building?

I gather that anything is possible with him... the irony of his latest response is utterly stifling in the air...


BTW turbo, you still haven't answered yes or no. Do you want me to teach you the difference between braced and unbraced columns? I asked you a while ago... if you don't know the difference don't be afraid to ask...

 

[Turbofan]

Jesus.... did anybody get a whiff of that irony? The same guy arguing bricks would be a valid comparison is arguing that a tower of cards isn't a valid analogy.

As many of the others in this thread, you lack the ability to see the parallel
of the PHYSICS in the brick analogy and link it to the construction of the
twin towers.