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Ethnikos said:
Tests. The military is allowed to test their theories on the general population. If you do not like it, write a letter to your congressman and Senator.
Here's a link to an article about death education at Columbine. http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=16142
That is what Dr. Deagle does, listen to whistleblowes and talk about that information on his show. He is good about not revealing his sources. If you post stuff on the internet, that is not exactly anonymous, at least to the NSA.
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1. Your assertion that "The military is allowed to test their theories on the general population" could be based on some situations in which the Navy, for example, released a cold virus in the San Francisco Bay area. This is a well documented incident. What's your documentation that the military deliberately set up the two killers at Columbine?

2. As to the article about death education at Columbine in the link at World Net Daily, Dr. Samuel L. Blumenfeld, in an EDITORIAL is critical of death education, which deals with such things as grief counciling. He blames death education for an attempted suicide of a girl attending Columbine. That in itself is a bit questionable, since we don't know from his editorial what other foctors led to her suicide attempt. Then he says "God knows what equally crazy thoughts were put into the heads of the killers at Columbine." There is really no foundation for Blumenfeld's insinuation that teaching about death and grief counciling is responsible for the actions of the two killers. So there is very little substance here. The editorial is a bit suspect, since Blumenfled cites Christian Dominionist R. J. Rushdoony as a credible source.

Out of this unsupported editorial attack on death education you have constructed an entirely bizarre conspiracy involving law enfocement officers deliberately delaying intervention so the killers could complete their attack. Your reasoning is warped.

3. As to Deagle's so-called whistle-blowing, let me compare and contrast it with the Pentagon Papers and Watergate. Elridge actually published government papers. Woodward and Burnstein actually found the "smoking gun" of the Watergate break-in. In contrast, Deagle has nothing but his Jesuit reptile-aliens and all that other unsubstantiated crap.
 
TimCallahan said:
1. What's your documentation that the military deliberately set up the two killers at Columbine?

2. Out of this unsupported editorial attack on death education you have constructed an entirely bizarre conspiracy involving law enfocement officers deliberately delaying intervention so the killers could complete their attack. Your reasoning is warped.
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1. I have heard a lot of stuff about it from Alex Jones over the last 10 years but can not really give you specifics other than there were a bunch of gov. paid people who were military or intelligence types working in the school.
2.That story was something you brought up, from some anti-deagle site or something. It is not any theory I made up. I just was supplying info about what Deagle said, that I had heard myself. I have heard other talk-show hosts discuss it, but I am no expert on it.
One thing I heard recently that I thought was very interesting was the two kid's parents all worked in intelligence. That does not prove anything but I have heard a lot about people who were subjected to mind control, have parents involved in intelligence.
 
Ethnikos said:
1. I have heard a lot of stuff about it from Alex Jones over the last 10 years but can not really give you specifics other than there were a bunch of gov. paid people who were military or intelligence types working in the school.
2.That story was something you brought up, from some anti-deagle site or something. It is not any theory I made up. I just was supplying info about what Deagle said, that I had heard myself. I have heard other talk-show hosts discuss it, but I am no expert on it.
One thing I heard recently that I thought was very interesting was the two kid's parents all worked in intelligence. That does not prove anything but I have heard a lot about people who were subjected to mind control, have parents involved in intelligence.
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Alex Jones is a proven liar on many issues, it might not be sensible to take all that he says as truth.

Harris's and Klebold's parents did/do not work in "intelligence" according to the Wiki article on them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Harris_and_Dylan_Klebold
Eric's father, Wayne Harris, was a [retired] U.S. Air Force transport pilot. His mother, Katherine Ann Poole, was a homemaker.
<snip> Thomas Klebold ran a small real estate business from home, while Susan Klebold worked as an employment counselor.
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Whilst I don't take Wiki as gospel, do you have any actual evidence that a) their parents worked in intelligence or b) that even if this were the case, this had anything to do with their crime?
 
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Alex Jones is a proven liar on many issues, it might not be sensible to take all that he says as truth.
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This thing about the parents was from someone who was a guest on a radio show, probably Deagle's. I will have to check to see who that was. It was only a couple of days ago, so I should be able to find out who it was. Whoever the host was, should have caught the error and corrected it, instead of just letting it go. Thanks for finding that.
 
Ethnikos said:
That's a good question. You need to think of the Hezarkhani video, the one that was taken from the top deck on a ferry boat tied up at the sea wall at Battery Park. It shows a plane flying to the left of straight above and hits the South Tower of the WTC. That's the same view you get that the still comes from with the famous "face of Satan", by a woman who was on the same boat, with a still camera. The boat was parked a few feet south of the WWII memorial. A Russian guy in a Cessna was flying past the towers right when the second plane hit, and you can see the boat as he goes past towards the Narrows, and looks back at Manhattan.
You might want to look at a map of the area in order to visualize what is going on. To the South of the WWII memorial, in Battery Park, is the Coast Guard Station. The tv camera, that I was watching the feed from, was in front of that station. It looked over towards Brooklyn and you can see the jetties where the big ferries pull into a covered area. So, at this point, the camera was looking in the opposite direction from the burning North Tower. It was scanning the horizon as if it was watching for a second plane. It slowly moved from Brooklyn to Governor's Island and then the Verrazano bridge then Staten Island. It finally picked up what it was looking for and zoomed in on a plane coming straight towards the camera. It followed it as it got closer and then passed at a very high angle above the camera. It looked to me that the plane was going to fly right up the hudson, but it stopped turning and straightened up and them boom, into the tower.
This was not me doing anything. Someone knew to be at this spot to watch for another plane. I was watching because I realized where the camera was and knew it was a hell of a lot closer to the action that any other feeds. I had no idea there would be a second plane.
My point of the story is that for some reason, I saw the real thing as it happened that was zoomed in enough to look into the windows. It was not the plane that is claimed to have hit the building. What the "main stream media" said, and continues to say, is a lie. That is why I do not trust them, because they are co-opted in order to be a propaganda mouthpiece.
This is why I said Armageddon will not be televised, at least in a way where we will see it coming before it is too late to do anything about. I am not writing this in order to tell people when to expect the "Last Days" because I think it has already started. Pre-tribbers need to wake up from the sleep of thinking they are not going to be around for it. It's too late, and you are still here.
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Nowhere in the above post do you answer my question: How did you access these images? You've claimed that it's easy if you know how. So how did you do it?
 
Ethnikos said:
One thing I heard recently that I thought was very interesting was the two kid's parents all worked in intelligence. That does not prove anything but I have heard a lot about people who were subjected to mind control, have parents involved in intelligence.
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Well, no. Eric Harris' father was a U.S. Air Force transport pilot. His mother was a homemaker. Dylan Klebold's father ran a small real estate busines. His mother was an employment counselor. Of course, you may well assert that these were just covers for their REAL work as intelligence agents for the Jesuit reptile space-aliens; but the burden o proof is on you if you still assert they worked in intelligence.

You know, Ethnikos, what I find really interesting? With you EVERYTHING is a conspiracy. Is there any major aspect of politics or economics the news of which you accept as being accurate? Do you see anything that happens in those two fields as NOT being a front for a conspiracy?
 
One other point, Ehnikos: If July 15 comes and goes without Israeli airstrike on an Iranian nuclear reactor, will you admit to being wrong?
 
TimCallahan said:
One other point, Ehnikos: If July 15 comes and goes without Israeli airstrike on an Iranian nuclear reactor, will you admit to being wrong?
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Just to answer the other above post by you, I do not insist on the parents thing. I just heard it the other day on one of these radio shows I listen to. They are all conspiracy shows that I listen to, so that is a reason why I see conspiracies. I do not have to make them up, when several are offered up every day.
As for the Attack, that should be tomorrow. This comes from a show from Aug. 19,2008 Hour 2, 4 min. into the show (Best of the Best Q-Files, to download pod-cast) by Steve Quayle interviewing David Flynn. He wrote an Amazon best seller called the Temple in the Center of Time.
1260 days from the beginning of the tribulation to middle of the seven years, if you count backwards from dec. 21, 2012 you come up with July 11, 09. It might be local time, so It might start happening tonight.
Of course I do not think it is real, since I think it already started. The people who would be given the authority to make a date for a war would not be of God. They would be following the timeline given to them by Lucifer, who might be working off the 2012 date. They might just follow what they think is right, regardless of what God's plan is.
I moved the date back, before, because I was not sure where Obama was going to be when. So I want to move it up to tomorrow.
 
Foster Zygote said:
That's OK, I'm sure you'll move it back again on Sunday.
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According to the timeline I am looking at, the 11th is the last likely day, from a group of days starting from the fourth.
The people who start wars are part of a death cult who think they obtain power from Lucifer by making sacrifices, otherwise known as murder. They progressively kill more people in each sacrifice in order to get power to do the next one. The final sacrifice will be before or on Dec. 21, 2012. What the Illuminati think they will get in return from Lucifer is resurrection after a global natural disaster predicted for 2012.
God has a prophecy about the tribulation that concerns seven years. The seven is divided by two. We do not know the exact dates for God's plan, but the followers of Lucifer believe they have their master's plan figured out. Lucifer mimics God's plan, so they will make use of their half of seven to get power for their next move at the end of it. Something like that. You have to listen to the pod-cast. They guy spent a lot more time studying the subject than I would care to. I do agree with his general principles, so I would say his conclusions are probably as good as anyone's. Anyway, these people who do these things like to play games with dates and 7-11 might be a fun one for them. If nothing happens, then I give up trying to figure out when the enemy to mankind is going to hit next. It's a small group of people who think they are special and would be happy to kill everyone else on the planet if they could live because of it.
 
Ethnikos said:
I just heard it the other day on one of these radio shows I listen to. They are all conspiracy shows that I listen to, so that is a reason why I see conspiracies. I do not have to make them up, when several are offered up every day. . . . As for the Attack, that should be tomorrow.
So, why do you exclusively listen to conspiracy shows? Did it ever occur to you that they might be wrong? As to the attack, if it doesn't happen tomorrow, will you admit that you were wrong?
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