From Rapture Ready

[joobz]

Who want's to Party!

 

[Agatha]

I booked tickets to see Harry Potter & the HBP for the 15th, I am that confident that Ethnikos' prediction of nukes will fail.

 

[Elizabeth I]

Is there any point, what with the bomb next week....

Dang, I forgot that part. There's always some fly in the ointment.

We have a week to learn to love the bomb.

I wonder if Deagle's survival kit contains the following: one forty-five caliber automatic; two boxes of ammunition; four days' concentrated emergency rations; one drug issue containing antibiotics, morphine, vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills; one miniature combination Russian phrase book and Bible; one hundred dollars in rubles; one hundred dollars in gold; nine packs of chewing gum; one issue of prophylactics; three lipsticks; three pair of nylon stockings. Shoot, a fella' could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.

And string! Don't forget lots of string.

 

[Ethnikos]

Ethnikos: If it's not on the news, maybe it's because it isn't happening. Also, this thing about Bush watching the first plane hit the trade tower on TV - where did you get that?

I studied all that stuff in detail, two years ago. The school is close to where I live now, in Sarasota. I also live close to Venice airport, where some of the "hijackers" hung out. That's one of the reasons I know someone who was very familiar with Atta on an almost daily basis.

Tick-tock, tic-tock: Another day passes. hadn't you better be warning people about where the nuke thing is goin to happen, as SafeKeeper suggested?

The aide who was whispering in W's ear is a better liar than Bush. We do not know what was said, other than what the aide said he said. My guess would be something like, "Just stay put and be cool. Your brother is governor and you are safe here in Florida." meaning if people figured out what just happened, there might have been a revolution. The first hit happened five minutes before he got out of the limo and walked into the school.
From what I am hearing, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are going to allow Israel to fly over their countries to hit the area of Iran close to the Persian Gulf. So the nuke business might be a no-go. If they had not gotten permission to use Arab airspace, Israel would have had to use Georgia for its base. The Russians have tactical nukes they would have used to take care of their air-base there. Sorry about that. Hate to disappoint anyone who was looking forward to a nuclear war.
There are people like Dr. Deagle who still think Israel will use nukes. I think that would only happen after the situation has had time to deteriorate. Israel has plenty of high tech smart bunker buster bombs that are made light enough to fit on smaller Jets like F-15's.

 

[TimCallahan]

Okay, let me see if I have this down right. Your prediction is an Israeli air-strike on a nuclear facility in Iran; but if it doesn't happen, that still doesn't disprove your theory. Is that it, or is there more?

 

[Ethnikos]

I'd like to point out, as a resident of Littleton, Colorado, that the closest military installation to Columbine is an Air National Guard base 20 miles away. The closest VA hospital, also about twenty miles away, was in the process of being deactivated. Between Columbine and the air base were perhaps 10 fully equipped hospitals and hundreds of trauma personnel, many of which converged upon and treated people on the scene. With only about 20 wounded, they were not swamped, and did not call, AFAIK, upon any military or federal assistance.

I went back and found a place in the podcasts where he talks about it. He had been in Colorado originally with the air force but at the time of Columbine he was "the doctor for the Englewood (5 miles from you?) Fire Dept. and treated the first person shot, just outside the cafeteria, Mark Taylor. It was a psy-op called Death Education, funded by the Federal Gov. They had 40 Federal and State agents."
I know he gets into it, in other places, but it takes a while to find these, out of hundreds of hours.

 

[Ethnikos]

Okay, let me see if I have this down right. Your prediction is an Israeli air-strike on a nuclear facility in Iran; but if it doesn't happen, that still doesn't disprove your theory. Is that it, or is there more?

The original prediction I made was that Israel was going to use Georgia as a base to hit the reactor in Iran. It is practically the same distance from there as it would be from Israel.
Now that Saudi and Kuwait are going to let them use their airspace, they do not have to use Georgia. Apparently Russia doing a big military exercise on Georgia's border did not make that a very attractive option, anyway. My point was that Russia would probably be inclined to squash the Israeli operation in Georgia as soon as the first bomb hit in Iran. I felt they would be both prepared to escalate it to the point of using tactical nukes.
Having the option of flying straight from Israel eliminates the necessity of getting into a nuclear war that would have been likely with them sitting in close reach of the Russians. But the CIA and MUSSAD might just start another war in Georgia just for fun, but not right away.
I should remind readers that the main point I want to make is that pre-tribulation rapture people should have already left the planet by now, if their theory was correct. People need to realize we are all stuck here for the time being and we need to say, "No New Wars, and Impeach Obama for getting us more involved in war than we were already." Wishing for Armageddon will guarantee that you will die in it, not get raptured from it.

 

[bokonon]

Since the Israelis hit an Iraqi nuclear reactor in 1981, what's the big deal, Armageddon-wise, if they hit another one in Iran 28 years later? In other words, even if this happens, why would anyone assume it was the starting gun for the Apocalypse?

 

[Foster Zygote]

I can safely say that I am probably the only person who you will run across who will say, "I saw it as plain as can be and was looking through the windows and I know exactly what it is." That is because I was watching it through a zoom lens of a high definition camera of someone prepositioned so that the plane flew right over it so I was looking at the bottom of it at one point.

Please clarify: You were watching the attacks live? How did you gain access to this camera feed? Seriously, I've known children who could lie better than this.

No, I can not prove it. It was not exactly secure and could be seen by anyone who knew how to find it. Other than that, can't say.

And how did you find it?

 

[Safe-Keeper]

Please clarify: You were watching the attacks live? How did you gain access to this camera feed? Seriously, I've known children who could lie better than this.

More importantly, how did you know to watch that spot, at that time?

 

[TimCallahan]

It was a psy-op called Death Education, funded by the Federal Gov. They had 40 Federal and State agents."
I know he gets into it, in other places, but it takes a while to find these, out of hundreds of hours.

Point #1: Why would the federal govenment want to do this?

Point #2: What actual evidence do you have for this accusation - other than Deagle's claims?

Point #3: If such evidence exists, why hasn't some whistle-blower simply dumped onto the Internet?

 

[TimCallahan]

The original prediction I made was that Israel was going to use Georgia as a base to hit the reactor in Iran. It is practically the same distance from there as it would be from Israel.
Now that Saudi and Kuwait are going to let them use their airspace, they do not have to use Georgia. Apparently Russia doing a big military exercise on Georgia's border did not make that a very attractive option, anyway. My point was that Russia would probably be inclined to squash the Israeli operation in Georgia as soon as the first bomb hit in Iran. I felt they would be both prepared to escalate it to the point of using tactical nukes.
Having the option of flying straight from Israel eliminates the necessity of getting into a nuclear war that would have been likely with them sitting in close reach of the Russians. But the CIA and MUSSAD might just start another war in Georgia just for fun, but not right away.
I should remind readers that the main point I want to make is that pre-tribulation rapture people should have already left the planet by now, if their theory was correct. People need to realize we are all stuck here for the time being and we need to say, "No New Wars, and Impeach Obama for getting us more involved in war than we were already." Wishing for Armageddon will guarantee that you will die in it, not get raptured from it.

Point #1: Are you prepared to admit that you are wrong if Israel has not made an air strike on an Iranian reactore by July 15? I ask this because you've already shifted from having the Israelis attack Iran from Georgia. By the way, why would Georgia, which has plenty of troubles of its own, want to help Israel possibly ignite another war in the region?

Point #2: You say that MOSSAD and the CIA "might just start another war in Georgia just for fun, but not right away." I really don't think anyone starts wars "just for fun." How would it be in Israel's interest to provoke Russia into having a great military presence in the Caucasus? It would be more to their advantage to have that region calmed down.

Point #3: You say: "Impeach Obama for getting us more involved in war than we were already." I was under the impression that Obama was working on pulling our troops out of Iraq, while aintaining the war in Afghanistan. While I wuld also like to see our troops out of that country as well, I don't see anything in Obama's actions that warent impeachment.

 

[joobz]

I see we have a special conspiracy theory here:

To summarize:
The rapture will happen, but don't know when.
We are post tribulation.
The evidence for being post tribulation include all conflicts and conflicts that were avoided. Any future conflict that happens proves this point further and any future conflict that is avoided also proves this point.



Did I miss anything?

 

[Foster Zygote]

I see we have a special conspiracy theory here:

To summarize:
The rapture will happen, but don't know when.
We are post tribulation.
The evidence for being post tribulation include all conflicts and conflicts that were avoided. Any future conflict that happens proves this point further and any future conflict that is avoided also proves this point.



Did I miss anything?

Don't forget that if William Deagle says something it can be taken as fact. It doesn't matter how many batpoop crazy things this pathological liar says, if you want to believe it then it's true.

 

[Paulhoff]

Keep saying that you are sick and dying, and one day it will happen.

Every age has had people that say it can't get worse, it will happen soon, it hasn't, and it will not happen for another 5 billion years.

Paul



We will not be here anyway...............

don't hold your breath

 

[Ethnikos]

More importantly, how did you know to watch that spot, at that time?

That's a good question. You need to think of the Hezarkhani video, the one that was taken from the top deck on a ferry boat tied up at the sea wall at Battery Park. It shows a plane flying to the left of straight above and hits the South Tower of the WTC. That's the same view you get that the still comes from with the famous "face of Satan", by a woman who was on the same boat, with a still camera. The boat was parked a few feet south of the WWII memorial. A Russian guy in a Cessna was flying past the towers right when the second plane hit, and you can see the boat as he goes past towards the Narrows, and looks back at Manhattan.
You might want to look at a map of the area in order to visualize what is going on. To the South of the WWII memorial, in Battery Park, is the Coast Guard Station. The tv camera, that I was watching the feed from, was in front of that station. It looked over towards Brooklyn and you can see the jetties where the big ferries pull into a covered area. So, at this point, the camera was looking in the opposite direction from the burning North Tower. It was scanning the horizon as if it was watching for a second plane. It slowly moved from Brooklyn to Governor's Island and then the Verrazano bridge then Staten Island. It finally picked up what it was looking for and zoomed in on a plane coming straight towards the camera. It followed it as it got closer and then passed at a very high angle above the camera. It looked to me that the plane was going to fly right up the hudson, but it stopped turning and straightened up and them boom, into the tower.
This was not me doing anything. Someone knew to be at this spot to watch for another plane. I was watching because I realized where the camera was and knew it was a hell of a lot closer to the action that any other feeds. I had no idea there would be a second plane.
My point of the story is that for some reason, I saw the real thing as it happened that was zoomed in enough to look into the windows. It was not the plane that is claimed to have hit the building. What the "main stream media" said, and continues to say, is a lie. That is why I do not trust them, because they are co-opted in order to be a propaganda mouthpiece.
This is why I said Armageddon will not be televised, at least in a way where we will see it coming before it is too late to do anything about. I am not writing this in order to tell people when to expect the "Last Days" because I think it has already started. Pre-tribbers need to wake up from the sleep of thinking they are not going to be around for it. It's too late, and you are still here.

 

[Ethnikos]

Point #1: Why would the federal govenment want to do this?

Tests. The military is allowed to test their theories on the general population. If you do not like it, write a letter to your congressman and Senator.

Point #2: What actual evidence do you have for this accusation - other than Deagle's claims?

Here's a link to an article about death education at Columbine. http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=16142

Point #3: If such evidence exists, why hasn't some whistle-blower simply dumped onto the Internet?

That is what Dr. Deagle does, listen to whistleblowes and talk about that information on his show. He is good about not revealing his sources. If you post stuff on the internet, that is not exactly anonymous, at least to the NSA.

 

[Ethnikos]

I see we have a special conspiracy theory here:
To summarize:
The rapture will happen, but don't know when.
We are post tribulation.
The evidence for being post tribulation include all conflicts and conflicts that were avoided. Any future conflict that happens proves this point further and any future conflict that is avoided also proves this point.
Did I miss anything?

My problem is with people who think they know when the rapture will happen. The reason for my problem is that, if you think you will avoid all the bad things coming on the world, it is no concern of theirs, since the rapture will occur before the "Tribulation" begins.
Your analysis should say, not "post tribulation", but maybe post pre-tribulation, meaning the tribulation has begun.
If there are any pre-tribulation rapture advocates reading this forum, go ahead and correct me if I am wrong about what you believe. I have always thought pre-tribulation means before the tribulation.

 

[Paulhoff]

My problem is with people who think they know when the rapture will happen.

My problem is that anyone thinks that BS story is even real to begin with.

Paul

 

[paximperium]

Tests. The military is allowed to test their theories on the general population.

That is the dumbest reasoning I have ever heard.

If you do not like it, write a letter to your congressman and Senator.

Why would I want to sound like an insane lunatic?

Here's a link to an article about death education at Columbine. http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=16142

So to support your hearsay, you post another hearsay article?

That is what Dr. Deagle does, listen to whistleblowes and talk about that information on his show. He is good about not revealing his sources. If you post stuff on the internet, that is not exactly anonymous, at least to the NSA.

Translation: Deagle can make up anything he wants and never has to provide evidence because he is protecting his imaginary sources.