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Freedom of speech?

And then some wonder why the swiss people voted against minarets, symbols of this racist filth called islam.

DC said:
i mean it is not a callup to violence. it is total nonsence and i feel a bit offended, but should we punish him for saying it (if he did, sofar its hearsay) or should we confront him and debate his garbage?
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The moment these preachers start to urge people to murder infidels in the name of Allah, I'd say we should shoot their heads off and feed the carcass to pigs. Unfortunately that didn't happen quite yet. Of course his purpose is perfectly clear. But we could just reply by calling muslims worse than swines and monkeys, of which accepting their religion is a proof. If they are allowed to call us worse than animals, we are fully entitled to shoot back verbally at least as hard.

Debate with religious fanatics is fruitless if you want to make them change their views - however it can serve as a welcome reminder to people who may not be aware of certain aspects of islam, or think they are just "islamophobic propaganda".

Public debate usually makes every sane person clear of what these guys are all about. Of course they and their supporters (and western apologists) are too retarded to see any flaw in their ideology. To them their rotten religion comes from Allah, or is an essential part of some multicultural utopia, and is thus flawless.
 
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The only real life public religious crap I have had thrown at me is the nutjob Christians who stand in the street in Glasgow hurling insults at people who are not good Christians. They say all kind of nasty things are going to happen to me.

And then some wonder why the swiss people voted against minarets, symbols of this racist filth called islam.
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Broad brush postings, I love them.
 
Andúril said:
And then some wonder why the swiss people voted against minarets, symbols of this racist filth called islam.



The moment these preachers start to urge people to murder infidels in the name of Allah, I'd say we should shoot their heads off and feed the carcass to pigs. Unfortunately that didn't happen quite yet. Of course his purpose is perfectly clear. But we could just reply by calling muslims worse than swines and monkeys, of which accepting their religion is a proof. If they are allowed to call us worse than animals, we are fully entitled to shoot back verbally at least as hard.

Debate with religious fanatics is fruitless if you want to make them change their views - however it can serve as a welcome reminder to people who may not be aware of certain aspects of islam, or think they are just "islamophobic propaganda".

Public debate usually makes every sane person clear of what these guys are all about. Of course they and their supporters (and western apologists) are too retarded to see any flaw in their ideology. To them their rotten religion comes from Allah, or is an essential part of some multicultural utopia, and is thus flawless.
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banning their words will not make them change their thoughts, it makes them change their words.
they will say it behind closed doors.
 
WildCat said:
My comprehension skills are just fine. I've been told over and over on this forum how hate speech must continue to be banned because riots, chaos, anarchy, and/or fascism would surely follow if it wasn't. Isn't that why Holocaust denial is illegal in Germany?
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ah lol finally i get your point about us beeing racists, made me think for the weekend lol.

good point.
 
DC said:
ah lol finally i get your point about us beeing racists, made me think for the weekend lol.

good point.
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You know, I think that the US outlaws bare boobs on TV because Americans are such a lewd, debauched and licentious people that the mere sight of a bare boob on TV would cause instant nation-wide mass fornication... and we can´t have that, can we?
 
Chaos said:
You know, I think that the US outlaws bare boobs on TV because Americans are such a lewd, debauched and licentious people that the mere sight of a bare boob on TV would cause instant nation-wide mass fornication... and we can´t have that, can we?
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also a good point.

but still WildCats point still stands i think.

why do we have to bann Nazi flags and propaganda?
the USA also didnt turn into a Nazireich. would we when we allow the crap again?
 
DC said:
also a good point.

but still WildCats point still stands i think.

why do we have to bann Nazi flags and propaganda?
the USA also didnt turn into a Nazireich. would we when we allow the crap again?
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They do have the Tea Partiers however.
 
DC said:
also a good point.

but still WildCats point still stands i think.

why do we have to bann Nazi flags and propaganda?
the USA also didnt turn into a Nazireich. would we when we allow the crap again?
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No more than the US would turn into a permanent nation-wide mass fornication if they allowed bare boobs on TV... or Switzerland would turn into a Taliban stronghold if the construction of minarets was still legal. My point is, Americans are not in a position to pass judgement about this sort of thing - especially not those who don´t give a **** about the issue, but instead are merely interested in making others look bad.
 
funk de fino said:
They do have the Tea Partiers however.
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they are nowhere close to Nazi stuff.
they may atract some Nazis, But the US has a Nazi "community" but those are easely identified as such.
 
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Chaos said:
No more than the US would turn into a permanent nation-wide mass fornication if they allowed bare boobs on TV... or Switzerland would turn into a Taliban stronghold if the construction of minarets was still legal. My point is, Americans are not in a position to pass judgement about this sort of thing - especially not those who don´t give a **** about the issue, but instead are merely interested in making others look bad.
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ok you got a point there :)
 
funk de fino said:
How do you identify them?
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The usual. Admiration of Hitler. Rabid anti-semitism. White supremacist ravings. Holocaust denial.

Oh, and of course, calling themselves "American Nazi Party" is a dead giveaway that they are Nazis.
 
Andúril said:
And then some wonder why the swiss people voted against minarets, symbols of this racist filth called islam.
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First they deny the holocaust, then they say the Jews had it coming.

First they declare racism is wonderful and natural, then they dump on Islam for being "racist filth".

You just can't win with some people.
 
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funk de fino said:
The only real life public religious crap I have had thrown at me is the nutjob Christians who stand in the street in Glasgow hurling insults at people who are not good Christians. They say all kind of nasty things are going to happen to me.



Broad brush postings, I love them.
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Next time you are in London, go down to Speaker's Corner on a Sunday Afternoon and you will get the Islamic version of the above nutters.
 
Aye, but in all fairness Funk was in Glasgow Cathedral at the time......
 
dudalb said:
Next time you are in London, go down to Speaker's Corner on a Sunday Afternoon and you will get the Islamic version of the above nutters.
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The difference I supose would be making a choice to go there. These nutters stand in the shopping streets and spew their bile.

If it was muslims doing the same they would probably be bottled.
 
Skeptic said:
First they deny the holocaust, then they say the Jews had it coming.

First they declare racism is wonderful and natural, then they dump on Islam for being "racist filth".

You just can't win with some people.
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who declred racism wonderfull and natural?
 
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