Franko and Deism.org

[The Fool]

Ever wondered what Franko did on his vacation from JREF?

check out
http://deism.org/forum/index.php?sid=c821ffffa65c1acaec4b47a529962358

He decided to run his Ideas through this deism forum, The results are rather predictable, He got his backside spanked....Its quite interesting reading. He is "serpent" on this site. Yalel is there too, they make a nice couple, swapping compliments and patting each other on the back.

After months of trying to find out why his goddess is female, I discovered he has no problem sharing the answer with deists, even though he can't bring himself to post it here...

Allow me to oblige.

Posted by "serpent" on deism.org in a thread he called "logical deism.
He was asked....

What use is there in attributing any gender to god? God operates the same whether god is male, female, or beyond the concept of gender. Attributing a gender to god is, to me, simply a matter of of socio-sexual nonsense, another salvo in the absurd war of political correctness, and it has no place in a conversation of the real nature of god.


he replied with

I disagree. Our gender is fundamental to who we are as individuals. It is one of our intrinsic characteristics.

But to understand where I am coming from a little better on this you have to understand something of the LD notion of the Soul, or “Graviton”.

Now according to Logical Deism there is only one type of particle that exist in the metatrue reality (The Omniverse). This particle is called a Graviton. Each of us are such a particle. Now these particles have four intrinsic properties MASS, VELOCITY, SPIN, and CHARGE. All of these parameters are values, and all can be either positive, or negative.

SPIN corresponds to your gender. “Positive” Spin is male, and “Negative” Spin is Female (spin = zero is gender neutral)


so there you have it....It all depends on which way you spin. All you people that thought he was mad are wrong, he's just dizzy.

The rest of the thread is vintage franko...all the same stuff, He has dropped the "atoms obey, you are, you obey" thing. I think that got bashed too much for even someone like franko to persist with it.

The thread ends by being closed by the moderator with the following comment.

Thread moved and locked by moderator for excessive display of poor manners on the part of some participants.
Please keep the flames low and posts on the topic.
Thanks
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Can you imagine that??? a franko thread displaying poor manners??

This site has given me much laughter, check it out....and a special thanks to that Internet sleuth James MGMDP for finding the site...

 

[Gregor]

Franko font

Is there a mechanism the forum can use to place posts by Franko and responses thereto in a special font or text color?

I get tired of reading through a thread to see Franko post some nonsense, then see post after post of people discussing his mental infirmity.

As I haven't used "ignore" before, wouldn't it simply strike the Franko posts, but not deal with the replies?

 

[Upchurch]

Poor Franko. Nobody loves or respects him except Jedi Knight.

 

[The Fool]

Re: Franko font

As I haven't used "ignore" before, wouldn't it simply strike the Franko posts, but not deal with the replies?

Mea Culpa on that one Gregor. I have stopped replying to Franko more often than I have stopped smoking.

 

[Q-Source]

Deleted by me

 

[The Fool]

While I'm in a Frank belting mood I'd just like to go back to The second question I have been trying to get him to explain. It is about the "consequences" I will suffer after death (for being an A-theist). Franko's belief is that we cannot control our behaviour unless we fear the Goddess's retribution.

This is obviously a personality feature of Franko. He cannot self moderate his behavour. On this form where he has no "god" watching over his posts he is the ad-hom king. On Deist.org which appears to be strictly moderated....he does appear to control the potty mouth.....otherwise he gets his threads canned.

He obviously transfers this feature of his personality to atheists. Because he cannot control himself without external moderation he has decided everyone else must be the same....

It gets down to the issue Pirsig discusses in "Zen and the art of Motorcycle maintenance" (my sig). Frank obviously does need someone to tell him what is good, and what is not good. I'll make that decision myself thank you...No Godess required here.

 

[Tricky]

LOL!

Boy over there at Deist.org, they truly have some Logical Deists.

Interestingly, when Franko came back to JREF, he was welcomed. How does that fit in with his contention that atheists are evil?

 

[The Fool]

Re: Re: Franko and Deism.org

EXCELENT!!

Congratulations Fool for this search.!!!

Franko was BANNED there!!!!

Read this:

"If you want to see what the Deus Project is not about, we invite you to search this forum for posts by Serpent. They are vitriolic and rude...
The Deus Project's Forum exists to provide an atmosphere of communal intellectual inquiry and support. While vigorous debates carried out in language of mutual respect are welcome, Serpents posts are needlessly antagonistic and injure this unique community"


That's why he came back to the JREF Forum!!!!

Q-S

congratulate JamesMGMDP....I just went and did some look/cut/paste....

 

[Franko]

I have stopped replying to Franko more often than I have stopped smoking.

Show me a Man who smokes cigarettes when he should know better, and I will show you a Man who knows deep down in his heart ... that the Matter isn't really real.

 

[LillyThePink]

Show me a Man who smokes cigarettes when he should know better, and I will show you a Man who knows deep down in his heart ... that the Matter isn't really real.

Show me a man that's got a good woman (show me)
Show me a man that's got a good woman (show me)
Show me a man that's got a good woman

Show me a man that's got a good woman (show me)
I'll show you a man who goes to work humming
He knows he's got
some sweet lovin' coming
At the end of his working day..........yeah!

Sorry, F, you set me off

 

[Upchurch]

Poor Franko...

 

[Franko]

Franko was BANNED there!!!!

Ohhh, I have been banned from much classier places than that!

Hehehe …

Read this:

"If you want to see what the Deus Project is not about, we invite you to search this forum for posts by Serpent. They are vitriolic and rude...
The Deus Project's Forum exists to provide an atmosphere of communal intellectual inquiry and support. While vigorous debates carried out in language of mutual respect are welcome, Serpents posts are needlessly antagonistic and injure this unique community"

Actually what you don’t see on those boards (well some of it) is all of the back and fourth between me and the two site admins. Both of these guys are actually A-Theists, not Deists! … and whenever I post on a site run by A-Theists it is pretty much Fate that I am getting Banned … it is only a matter of When.

I found it hysterical, that the posts they actually claimed to have banned me for were just the posts of my opponents re-pasted with a few key terms changed. I figured how can they ban me for saying the same stuff that was just spouted at me? Check out the thread on the “pledge of allegiance” … I really cleaned their clocks there …

 

[Franko]

Sorry, F, you set me off

Actually ... I'm in complete agreement with you on that point, Lilly.

 

[Upchurch]

Poor delusional self-important Franko...

 

[Franko]

Fool,

Franko's belief is that we cannot control our behaviour unless we fear the Goddess's retribution.

Actually … that is Your belief. I don’t Fear Anything, but if I did, the LG is the last person I’d Fear.

You A-Theists fixate on Fear, because ultimately it is all the You understand.

He cannot self moderate his behavour. On this form where he has no "god" watching over his posts he is the ad-hom king. On Deist.org which appears to be strictly moderated....he does appear to control the potty mouth.....otherwise he gets his threads canned.

If they Ban me that is THEIR loss – not mine. There are plenty of fish (forums) in the sea (Internet). If they don’t like site-traffic, that is their problem.

It gets down to the issue Pirsig discusses in "Zen and the art of Motorcycle maintenance" (my sig). Frank obviously does need someone to tell him what is good, and what is not good. I'll make that decision myself thank you...No Godess required here.

hehehe … you really are a clueless ◊◊◊◊◊◊ … Fool.

 

[Franko]

Upchuck pouted:
Poor delusional self-important Franko...

Shouldn't you be off kissing Loki's ass, Religious fanatic?

 

[Upchurch]

Awww... That's right, Franko. You're right and everyone in the whole wide world is wrong. You go tell 'em like a big boy!

(I think I've found the correct way to communicate with Franko, everyone!)
Incidently, any B5 fans out there? "Comes the Inquisitor" has Franko's name all over it.

Upchurch

 

[BeholdTheTruth]

Fool: "Yalel is there too, they make a nice couple, swapping compliments and patting each other on the back."

YaleL: Fool, why dost thou need to persecute me so, and to use my name in vain? Have I not sought to have you not just see the surface of words the way Fundies do, but rather to see below the surface of words such as mine, as JC himself sought to have his followers see his words, as per John 16:25 - 28...

More seriously, guys... 25. These things I have spoken to you figuratively; but the time cometh when I shall no longer speak to you in parables, but will tell you plainly about the Father. 26. In that day you shall ask in my name and I do not say that I will pray the Father for you; [note: the word "to" is left out of the above, and thus JC is speaking "elliptically" as in an elliptical orbit of the earth around the sun and Fundies around their Son]

27. For the Father himself loveth you, [note, that if you look beneath the surface of his words, you can see that he is tweeking his followers because he is still speaking figuratively and they just can't "get" it] because you have loved me, and have believed [even HE says "believed" as opposed to saying he did -- so maybe he is both A-theist AND a theist?] that I came out from God. 28. I came out from the Father, and am come into the world again, I leave the world, and go to the Father. [note the coming and going stuff. This guy was cool! For more, see the newly revised http://familycology.org for beyond the- overly-familar-memes that blind you and bind you. For less, look in the miirors of your memes]

Regards, Yale (as in Yah El)

 

[Guest]

Funny stuff!

"Thread moved and locked by moderator for excessive display of poor manners on the part of some participants."

I wouldn't say Franko has bad manners. He/she is hella boring though.

 

[Franko]

Whopeedonme,

… and speaking of Clueless …

"Thread moved and locked by moderator for excessive display of poor manners on the part of some participants."

… and you call yourself a Skeptic?!?!

You don’t find it the slightest bit odd that a Deist gets banned from Deism.org for arguing the existence of God too strongly?!!!

Did you actually read any of the threads? It is like my debates here … for a bunch a guys who supposedly believe in God (the “deists”) they sure seem to think like a bunch of A-theists. I mean … they all believe in the existence of “God”, but I am the only one that is arguing to keep the phrase “ONE NATION UNDER GOD” in the pledge? If you believe in “God” then why on Earth does that phrase need to be removed?

Your a priori way of thinking is what is truly hysterical Whodingy. I don’t think you would know Skepticism if it fell out of the sky, landed on your head, and started to wiggle.

I wouldn't say Franko has bad manners. He/she is hella boring though.

If I am so boring, then why is it you are always following me around so consistently? You seem to be awfully fascinated by my antics. Don’t you have anything more interesting to do then follow my posts around like a lovesick little puppy dog?

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... An Upchuck ... if you can pry your lips away from Loki's ass for a second ... I am still wiating for you to explain how people who don't believe there are consequences for their actions are more moral then people who do believe their actions have consequences?

Why do you continue to evade and avoid backing up your ridiculous assertion?

Since you have already conceded that A-Theism is a Religion, is this just an example of your dogmatic belief system; and therefore to be taken simply on Faith?