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Former conspiracy believer here

Diagoras

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Hey guys. I've been reading some of the threads in this forum, and they're of particular interest to me because for a couple years I was firmly in the conspiracy theory camp.

I've never been a big fan of Bush, or the Republican Party, or politicians in general, so when I was first exposed to the conspiracy theory it had an immediate appeal to me. It confirmed my belief that these were horrible people who are up to no good.

It wasn't the first conspiracy theory I had swallowed, either. In retrospect, it is obvious that every time I've fallen for one it was primarily for emotional reasons rather than rational ones. A conspiracy theory doesn't stick unless it has some kind of emotional appeal.

The second thing that drew me to the theory was the whole "action flick" aspect of the story. The story really does read like a movie, with missiles and explosives and a super-secret government plot to fool the public, which would have to be defeated by an impassioned popular movement to expose the truth. That's exciting stuff, if you believe it.

And the third thing that I liked about it was the feeling of being "in the know". When you start to believe in the conspiracy, you see the world divided into the following three groups:

1) The evil conspirators. People with no conscience, of pure evil, who will do anything for personal gain. They thirst for money and power, and if it means murdering thousands of people, that's just fine. They are also extremely good at keeping secrets. They are very competent at staging fake displays to fool the public, yet they are also such bumbling fools that evidence of the conspiracy is so obvious and plentiful that it is irrefutable.

2) The dupes. These are the mindless drones who go about their daily lives believing whatever the media and the government tell them, i.e. pretty much everybody on the planet, including all the structural engineers and firemen with their so-called "evidence" (though some of them might be in the first category).

3) The freedom-fighting conspiracy theorists. These are the people who, from the comfort of their computer chairs, have seen through the veil of secrecy and lies. They have seen the videos and read the websites. They have filled their heads with so many half-truths about the events of that day that they feel the conspiracy theory is rock-solid. If anyone disproves one of their half-truths, there are thousands more to fall back on.

Eventually, however, I decided I couldn't only read conspiracy theorists anymore. I had to at least look at the claims of the opposition in detail, to see if I could refute their arguments and to see if maybe possibly I might be mistaken. Before that I was afraid of doing that, fearing that I might be sucked into being a government dupe again.

Well, that's exactly what happened. When I looked carefully at the conspiracy debunking sites, they made a lot of sense. I couldn't refute their arguments after all. And it seemed so much more plausible, once I actually saw that the "holes" in the official story weren't what I thought they were. Looking back, it seems absolutely crazy that I could have bought it hook, line and sinker like I did. I try to be skeptical and to not let my emotions get in the way of analyzing the facts wherever possible, but apparently I failed at that. Luckily I got better and with a dose of rationality I've been cured of the conspiracy delusion.

It is possible to change people's minds. Don't give up hope, guys.
 
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Welcome to the forum. Lots of good info here, with plenty of knowledgeable people.
 
That’s quite an admission. Kudos to you. Care to give us your demographics for context?

How were you first introduced to the Truther expericence?

What source in particular caused you to doubt the "freedom-fighting conspiracy theorists"?
 
Welcome to the forums, Diagoras. Congrats on finding your way out of that maze, and thanks for giving us some insight into your thought process. To me the most interesting part of this subject is what makes people believe irrational things. Since people in the midst of irrationality can't explain why they believe what they do, it's good to hear from people who've been through it and are thinking more clearly now.
 
This is an obvious work. The reasons are too many to list.

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That’s quite an admission. Kudos to you. Care to give us your demographics for context?
I'm a 22-year-old college student from New York.

How were you first introduced to the Truther expericence?
My first exposure was the "Pentagon Strike" flash movie, which you must have seen before.

What source in particular caused you to doubt the "freedom-fighting conspiracy theorists"?
I don't remember exactly. It was a combination of things. One was simply arguing the issue on another forum with people who didn't buy the conspiracy. One was the awesome episode of Penn and Teller's BS on conspiracy theories. Another was the Popular Mechanics website. I'm sure there were more, but I can't think of them right now.
 
Nominated (the OP). You've summarized everything about the Truth movement and its appeal to people, and what anybody can do to counteract that appeal.

You're a sight for sore eyes Diagoras. :)
 
I can't wait for Zensmack to swoop in and try to "save" Diagoras.
 
Thanks for sharing that, Diagoras. I think a lot of people who post on this forum have had similar experiences. Not about conspiracy theories necessarily, but about all sorts of irrational beliefs. Mine were a variety of wishful-thinking, messages-from-above type beliefs. It's not an easy or comfortable thing to lose your illusion, and it takes a lot of guts. So congratulations, and welcome to the forum.
 
Congratulations on your recovery. :)

Keep in mind that there are more than a handful of folks who post on these forums who are former conspiracy theory supporters themselves. So, no need to be embarrassed or anything like that. Any good skeptical person would prefer to be shown their error, so that they can correct their thoughts, rather than continue to be wrong about something and not realize it.
 
Congratulations on your recovery. :)

Keep in mind that there are more than a handful of folks who post on these forums who are former conspiracy theory supporters themselves. So, no need to be embarrassed or anything like that. Any good skeptical person would prefer to be shown their error, so that they can correct their thoughts, rather than continue to be wrong about something and not realize it.
I am not embarrassed in the least. As Jonathan Swift once said, "A man should never be ashamed to own that he has been in the wrong, which is but saying... that he is wiser today than yesterday."
 
Unfortunately Diagoras brain will need to be disected before we can determine the actual cause of the change. For the good of ape society of course.
 
If there were only more Truth "seekers" in the movement, we'd see this thing dying out. Thanks for the OP and welcome to the forum, Diagoras!
 
I am not embarrassed in the least. As Jonathan Swift once said, "A man should never be ashamed to own that he has been in the wrong, which is but saying... that he is wiser today than yesterday."
Are you sure you're just 22? ;)
 
Congratulations, lots of people never wake up. I must confess to having fallen for all manner of nonsense in my life, the worst part about being duped is not only are you lied to, but people make a liar out of you. Personally, the reason I try to adhere as close as I can to the scientific method isn't because I'm so smart :o .
 
And we fell for it hook, bobber, and sinker.


...wait a minute...


Yup exactly, not just the bait, but the tackle too. Google images didn't come up with exactly what I was looking for, but you got the point.

Seriously, how do you guys not see that this is just an obvious work?
 

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