Flight 77: the Passenger Manifest

[dtugg]

You do release that it is possible for two people to have the same name, right?

ETA: I didn't read the last part there. It has been proven that these are different people. The mix ups have been cleared up long ago. Why are you citing an article 9/21/01.

You are the one that claimed they are still alive so the burden of proof is one you to prove that. You can't.

And how did the jooos jump out of the nose of the plane again?

 

[A-Train]

Say, A-Train, ya calling Osama a liar?

"And we know that freedom-haters don't possess defiant spirits like those of the 19 - may Allah have mercy on them."

......

"In those difficult moments many hard-to-describe ideas bubbled in my soul, but in the end they produced an intense feeling of rejection of tyranny, and gave birth to a strong resolve to punish the oppressors.

And as I looked at those demolished towers in Lebanon, it entered my mind that we should punish the oppressor in kind and that we should destroy towers in America in order that they taste some of what we tasted and so that they be deterred from killing our women and children."

Shall I go on?

Don't bother. The quote is phony. Here is an authentic quote of bin Laden's reaction to the 9/11 attacks:

"I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government within the United States. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; to the people who want to make the present century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity. That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks. ... The American system is totally in control of the Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States."

http://www.public-action.com/911/oblintrv.html

 

[beachnut]

Don't bother. The quote is phony. Here is an authentic quote of bin Laden's reaction to the 9/11 attacks:

Have your failed ideas, your delusions clouded your posting? This is about Passenger Manifest, not delusions that you Manifest in your mind.

Why are you posting off topic? UBL said he would kill Americans; you failed to catch that and now have delusions to apologize for the terrorists and are off topic due to what reason?

Don't you think those who say the terrorists are not on the victim’s list are dirt dumb stupid on 911?

 

[T.A.M.]

As we know, the Alshehri brothers (seats 2A and 2B) turned up alive and well in the Middle East, indicating that someone else was occupying "their" seats on the planes. In seat 10B sat the hapless Satam Suqami, whose only role was to have his brains blown out by the real hijackers, and the hijacking blamed on him after his death.

OMFG. Mikew, thanks for pointing out that bit of 2005-2006 insanity.

Please tell me he didn't just invoke the "Hijackers are still alive" schtik??

You know what this calls for???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fbP1lvmBY8

TAM

 

[funk de fino]

Don't bother. The quote is phony. Here is an authentic quote of bin Laden's reaction to the 9/11 attacks:

So, a bigot and a liar. Which quote came later?

 

[njslim]

911myths.com has good page going over this - provides detailed information regarding
confusion in names and spellings ie. Check out Berry Berenson on Flight 11 - will not
find her on manifest. She was window of actor Anthony (Tony) Perkins and was
listed under full married name of BERINTHA PERKINS.

 

[JamesB]

Wow, there are more than one person in the Arab world with the same name! I am shocked, shocked I say!

 

[gumboot]

Two points:

1) There is video confirming some of the actual hijackers boarded the planes - not doubles or stand ins
2) There is eyewitness testimony confirming where some of the actual hijackers were seated and it matches the suspects

For the agent-posing-as-hijacker claim to work, all of the hijackers have to be agents. If you can demonstrate even one of the hijackers was a genuine Al Qaeda member the entire fake hijacker scenario crumbles like so much dust. This has been done. Dust it is.

 

[dtugg]

But isn't it much more exciting, especially if one hates jooos, if Mossad agents hijacked the planes and then parachuted out of the wheel well at the last moment? I mean evidence be damned, the jooos did it, because jooooos are evil.

 

[JamesB]

<cough>

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2002/02/06/saudi.htm

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) — Saudi Arabia acknowledged for the first time that 15 of the Sept. 11 suicide hijackers were Saudi citizens, but said Wednesday that the oil-rich kingdom bears no responsibility for their actions.

Previously, Saudi Arabia had said the citizenship of 15 of the 19 hijackers was in doubt despite U.S. insistence they were Saudis. But Interior Minister Prince Nayef told The Associated Press that Saudi leaders were shocked to learn 15 of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia.

"The names that we got confirmed that," Nayef said in an interview. "Their families have been notified."

 

[Skeptic Guy]

I just did a google search for Timothy McVeigh...do you know he's still alive?! He seems to move around alot since he is popping up all over the U.S. Maybe because he's in a Federal Witness Protection program.

You would have thought they would have changed his name...

 

[dudalb]

Out of the nose wheel bay door no less!

he is a bigot

Great FSM, if you suggested that as a way for James Bond to escape a plane in an 007 epic, the producers would reject it in a New York Minute as being too far fetched to be beleived.

Only a Truther would take it seriously.

But then A Train is a Holocaust Denier and an Anti Semite, so what can you expect?

 

[Bell]

4 planes. 19 hijackers. Sim-ple. Look how glad they were to go on this devine mision:

I think Osama had cookies.

 

[240-185]

Don't take this as a personal criticism; rather, it's merely a statement of principle. But I don't think it's a good idea to hide an otherwise publicly available site or source of information. Truthers may find it anyway. Being open is normally the best idea, then you can't be accused of obstructionism.

Yes, I'm fully aware of the hurricane of lunacy that can infect a newly targeted site. I've seen it on non-9/11 boards and blogs where something completely tangental gets mentioned, and the dam gates burst. So I do cringe at knowing that posting such a link may result in an avalance of fantasy peddling. In spite of that, if the site owner wants a site public, then I don't see it as our place to hide that info.

Then again, this all is ultimately up to the site owner. In this specific case, I'll readily accept that person's/peoples' judgement.

Well, you must be right.

In fact, the newly website is a public one. Everybody can leave a comment. Unfortunately, I must say.

So, for anyone who can understand French, the URL is: http://www.rue89.com/desintox-11-se...rai-et-tous-les-faux-complots-du-11-septembre

"Rue89" is a magazine website with a lot of investigation articles written by many journalists. So, this week, some journalists have studied 9/11. But beware the outstanding wooness in the comments!

 

[Bell]

But beware the outstanding wooness in the comments!

Well, it's French. What did you expect?

 

[T.A.M.]

A plateful of Freedom Fries of course.

sorry, couldnt resist.

TAM

 

[Jonnyclueless]

A-train has some pretty stiff requirements for him to be convinced. What happens when he puts his own beliefs to the same requirements.

So if it was an inside job, we need to know exactly who, that it was actually that person, we need evidence that shows every detail about how this inside job was pulled off and proof of every single person involved and proof that they indeed did what is being claimed, and were in the exact places at the exact times they needed to be to have pulled off this inside job. We need the hard physical evidence of the demolition,s the missiles, and anthing else that was used to satisfy the conspiracy theory

OK A-Train, go!

 

[chillzero]

Please post on the thread topic, and stop taking cheap pot shots at each other.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: chillzero

 

[Orphia Nay]

The entire claim of them not being on the manifests, is based on the CNN published list of "Victims" in which the hijackers (not VICTIMS) names were not included.

All complaints and theories stem from this one article/webpage/list.

TAM

Exactly. They even link to the page, where it says quite clearly, "Victims". Twoofism at it's finest!

 

[ElMondoHummus]

The entire claim of them not being on the manifests, is based on the CNN published list of "Victims" in which the hijackers (not VICTIMS) names were not included.

All complaints and theories stem from this one article/webpage/list.

TAM

Exactly. They even link to the page, where it says quite clearly, "Victims". Twoofism at it's finest!

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w194/orphia/aa77victims.gif

Also, the redoubtable Mike W.'s site has a page on this. It's been up for what, Mike, at least a couple of years now?

Old, old myth. The fact that it gets recycled so often demonstrates conspiracy fantasists basic dishonesty.