Fire, steel, and 911.

...hard evidence that, in a court of law, would prove - beyond a shadow of doubt, that the PET is a FAR more logical and REASONABLE explanation for the collapses than the NIST fairytale. .

So if your evidence is so hard and convincing, why haven't you started a wrongful death suit in court?

Come on, stop JAQing around on message boards where nothing will ever get done, and put your money where your mouth is.

Or, just come up with a lame excuse why you can't take it to court. Whichever your "150 IQ" leads you to.
 
...hard evidence

Which hard evidence would that be? All you have presented are video clip and your own "gee it sure looks like a CD" opinion. Can we expect your hard evidence about the same time Lyte and Merc release theirs?
 
I can try and debate the facts of the collapses..but I surely cannot save you from yourselves. You (NIST cultist) are so imbued with a belief...that says, "Anyone who disagrees with the government or an "official" report or theory, is an idiot," (perpetrated via cultural conditioning...including the public educational system and mass media) that you will distort and/or delete...BY ANY MEANS necessary...hard evidence that, in a court of law, would prove - beyond a shadow of doubt, that the PET is a FAR more logical and REASONABLE explanation for the collapses than the NIST fairytale. People who blindly accept NIST's report without question...are the true lemmings infected with the Stockholm Syndrome.

And, to all who want to label me as an idiot or sock or whatever...as an undying salute to your puppetmasters (yer such a tractable herd of woolmakers) well, all I can say is that I have an IQ over 150 and it's LOADED with a full arsenal of common sense...so, good luck with all that.

You haven't presented any evidence to even debate.
 
And, to all who want to label me as an idiot or sock or whatever ... well, all I can say is that I have an IQ over 150 and it's LOADED with a full arsenal of common sense...so, good luck with all that.

No physical evidence...just some entangled words...strewn together, which can probably be interpreted in many different ways...why haven't they taken the time to create a visual simulation or animation so that we can actually see what the heck they're talking about. That would help things a lot. But, I guess they're too afraid of that...since it would look utterly ridiculous.

And is anyone else scratching their head over the thought of someone with an IQ of "over 150" needing pretty pictures and animations to explain something to them, rather than simply understanding what has been written?

We know he's not actually illiterate, as he is able to post here, so it must be that he simply cannot think in an abstract manner, which would seem to belie his IQ claim.
 
Which hard evidence would that be? All you have presented are video clip and your own "gee it sure looks like a CD" opinion. Can we expect your hard evidence about the same time Lyte and Merc release theirs?

Has any NISTer presented anything during any debate on this forum...that actually DEBUNKS the PET? That's quasi-rhetorical, since it's all but impossible to debunk the PET...as all reports and analysis will have to fall under the, "Theory," category....because, why? Well, because the government decided to destroy all of the key evidence (of the collapses) at one of the largest crimes scenes in the history of the US.

http://fe.pennnet.com/Articles/Arti...n=Display&PUBLICATION_ID=25&ARTICLE_ID=131225

You know...destroying evidence is a crime right? So well, I kind of just proved that the government has committed crimes associated with 9/11. But, wait...WHY DIDN'T anyone get arrested for this crime or go to jail? Well, that's because you have a lack of understanding as to how the "system," actually works...although, this point - I have so deftly illustrated for you here...should enlighten you to the fact, that the government not only has committed crimes in the past, but will continue to do so...and without retribution. Hell...why should they stop now? I mean they've got all of your support...Go Go Team America !!
 
...all I can say is that I have an IQ over 150 and it's LOADED with a full arsenal of common sense...so, good luck with all that.

Evidence? Not once of your posts backs up this iffy claim. Also, judging from the maturity of your posts, I'm sure that your life is full of professional and romantic success.
 
You don't seem to understand how this works.

You need to visualize yourself as a prosecuting attorney. The skeptics here are the defense. The average internet peon is the judge. It is your job to present a case that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that 9/11 was a conspiracy. If you can't do that, there's no case. (Innocent until proven guilty.) Yet you seem upset that doubts are being raised. The problem is with your case, not with the defense.
 
Evidence? Not once of your posts backs up this iffy claim. Also, judging from the maturity of your posts, I'm sure that your life is full of professional and romantic success.

It's full of something...
 
Youtube boy said.................

...hard evidence that, in a court of law, would prove - beyond a shadow of doubt, that the PET is a FAR more logical and REASONABLE explanation for the collapses than the NIST fairytale.

:dl:

Youtube boy. *Your Honour may I present exhibit 1, A youtube video.*

Youtube boy. *Your Honour may I present exhibit 2, A youtube video.*

(Extended period of time)

Youtube boy * And finally I present exhibit number 1000657, A you tube video*

Judge * Whatever*

Seriously 28th, take it to the courts present your evidence, get off you backside, stop posting on internet forums to people who don´t beleive a word you say and take to the courts. Take out legal action, ask the truth movement for funds to support you. Ring the media, go for it. I look forward to seeing you smash NIST apart with your you tube videos.
 
Ok, one more post then I gotta get to work.


I can try and debate the facts of the collapses..but I surely cannot save you from yourselves.

You deny every piece of physical evidence that exists. Facts are my friend not yours. Experts use facts, not utube videos, to determine how the structures failed. You use 9 second videos to disprove evidence…you need saving not us.


You (NIST cultist) are so imbued with a belief...

Did I mention that NIST is my uncle? We call him Bob because National Institute of Standards and Technology is soooooooo damned informal.


that says, "Anyone who disagrees with the government or an "official" report or theory, is an idiot," (perpetrated via cultural conditioning...including the public educational system and mass media) that you will distort and/or delete...BY ANY MEANS necessary...hard evidence that, in a court of law, would prove - beyond a shadow of doubt, that the PET is a FAR more logical and REASONABLE explanation for the collapses than the NIST fairytale. People who blindly accept NIST's report without question...are the true lemmings infected with the Stockholm Syndrome.

Name one thing in this statement that isn’t idiotic. I double dog dare ya!...so does Uncle Bob.

....I have an IQ over 150...

Prove it! I see no evidence of this.

...and it's LOADED with a full arsenal of common sense...so, good luck with all that.

Common sense is great when determining how to spend your paycheck, but is utterly useless in determining how the WTC structures collapsed. You’ve proven that already.
 
Has any NISTer presented anything during any debate on this forum...that actually DEBUNKS the PET? That's quasi-rhetorical, since it's all but impossible to debunk the PET...as all reports and analysis will have to fall under the, "Theory," category....because, why? Well, because the government decided to destroy all of the key evidence (of the collapses) at one of the largest crimes scenes in the history of the US.
Yes, we have. Here is a comprehensive debunk of Planted Explosives. Enjoy.

Note this proves that explosives are impossible from first principles. This is in addition to the fact that there is absolutely no evidence in support of explosives, including video and audio evidence at the time of collapse and the resulting debris pile. Debris which, by the way, was not "destroyed," but meticulously examined at Fresh Killls. You are about as wrong as it is possible to be. Please read and learn.
 
NISTer...get ready for your minds to implode on themselves. LISTEN UP! And if you don't address what I'm about to say...than please just remove yourself from this debate.

I WANT all of you...TO TELL ME...given the fact that the government has destroyed the evidence...what evidence is left...that ONE - such as I - could ever present to you (NISTers) that would actually make you question NIST's report and/or seriously consider the PET as a reasonable theory?

BE SPECIFIC! I bet you can't even think of such potential evidence can you? I bet you've never even viewed it from this point have you?
 
I WANT all of you...TO TELL ME...given the fact that the government has destroyed the evidence...what evidence is left...that ONE - such as I - could ever present to you (NISTers) that would actually make you question NIST's report and/or seriously consider the PET as a reasonable theory?

It's not a fact it's your assertion. There's that warehouse full of debris that someone posted a link to a few pages back.

If you could present forensic evidence of explosives, by a competent forensic authority, not rubbish about thermite...
 
NISTer...get ready for your minds to implode on themselves. LISTEN UP! And if you don't address what I'm about to say...than please just remove yourself from this debate.

I WANT all of you...TO TELL ME...given the fact that the government has destroyed the evidence...what evidence is left...that ONE - such as I - could ever present to you (NISTers) that would actually make you question NIST's report and/or seriously consider the PET as a reasonable theory?

BE SPECIFIC! I bet you can't even think of such potential evidence can you? I bet you've never even viewed it from this point have you?

Well, I guess that's it. Since the gub'ment went and destroyed all the evidence, guess there isn't anything you can come up with to convince me.

Too bad. Been waiting for one of you to come up with something to make me question something, but sadly, all you do is confirm how pathetic your arguments are.

Thanks for playing! Here's a copy of the home game! You've been a lovely contestant, really!
 
Has any NISTer presented anything during any debate on this forum...that actually DEBUNKS the PET? That's quasi-rhetorical, since it's all but impossible to debunk the PET...as all reports and analysis will have to fall under the, "Theory," category....because, why? Well, because the government decided to destroy all of the key evidence (of the collapses) at one of the largest crimes scenes in the history of the US.

What evidence could we suppy to prove there weren't explosives in the Towers? Seriously. How can we prove they weren't there?

The only way to show that something wasn't there is to show that evidence that should be there, if they were there, isn't there. Can you understand that? I know you have difficulty with all these words 'n stuff.

So, what evidence shoud we find, if there were explosives?

Sounds for one thing. Show us a video of the collapse of any of WTC1, 2 or 7 that has anything like the explosive sounds you find in known CD cases. Show us that these sounds are correlated with the collapse. An explosion minutes before the collapse is meaningless. If explosives were used to bring down the towers, they would have collapsed almost immediately upon detonation.

Another thing would be flashes or high-speed jets of debris. Lots of them, co-ordinated with each other, and with the sounds mentioned above, and proceeding the collapse, not following it. All of the "squibs" and "flashes" that have been shown so far fail on all these counts.

A third thing would be residue of explosives. Contrary to your claims that all the evidence was removed, NIST had access to hundreds of pieces of steel. None show any residue of explosives.

So that's three things we would expect to find, if your hypothesis was correct. Since we see none of these things, we conclude your hypothesis has failed the test, and it is rejected.

So, now you can go on about your day, and dismiss or ignore this post like all the others you don't like.
 
I WANT all of you...TO TELL ME...given the fact that the government has destroyed the evidence...what evidence is left...that ONE - such as I - could ever present to you (NISTers) that would actually make you question NIST's report and/or seriously consider the PET as a reasonable theory?
Fine, let's assume, as difficult as that is, that you are correct. Let's assume "the government has destroyed all the evidence." They, of course, have done no such thing, but for now I'll go along with you.

Then what? Then you don't have any evidence. That's what it means.

So, given that you believe all the evidence was destroyed, you admit that you have no evidence.

We believe no such thing, thus we do have evidence.

You can leave now.
 
NISTer...get ready for your minds to implode on themselves. LISTEN UP! And if you don't address what I'm about to say...than please just remove yourself from this debate.

I WANT all of you...TO TELL ME...given the fact that the government has destroyed the evidence...what evidence is left...that ONE - such as I - could ever present to you (NISTers) that would actually make you question NIST's report and/or seriously consider the PET as a reasonable theory?

BE SPECIFIC! I bet you can't even think of such potential evidence can you? I bet you've never even viewed it from this point have you?

Where is the hard and overwhelming physical evidence of your Pathetic Explosive Theory?
 
Yes.. if you presented some evidence these folks would have something to discredit besides you yourself.
 
Jimben....and I bet everyone else will be just as stumped as you...NO ONE is gonna come up with any answers for this one...BUT, still TRY. My last post is still on the table....

JUST ADMIT IT....there is NO EVIDENCE, that would convince you against the NIST....NOT EVEN A VIDEO OF BUSH OR CHENEY OR SILVERSTEIN DIRECTLY ADMITING THEY HAD INVOLVEMENT WOULD CONVINCE YOU.

There is NO evidence...because you refuse to accept anything that disagrees with the NIST report.
 

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