FEMA Chief fired from last job.

Renfield said:
I don't find anything in there that would imply that Bush is an "evil genius". Evil perhaps.
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Hey, the guy comes across as a moronic oaf, but still managed to get relected for a second term.
He just might be a genius after all.
 
Is calling for Brown to be fired still en vogue? What started out as reactionary shock has now become a meme. I still haven't seen a performance comparison to show that FEMA was too slow (since we haven't had a total governmental collapse on a metropolitan scale to compare to).

Call me a skeptic but I would like to see some evidence to support these claims of incompetence or inaction.

Mind you, I could care less about the guy, I don't know him. However, I know scapegoating and a railroad job when I see it.
 
corplinx said:
Call me a skeptic but I would like to see some evidence to support these claims of incompetence or inaction.
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You're a funny guy.
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If no one was "fired" for letting Powell go before the UN and say we had hard proof that Iraq had WMDs and using that as the justification for our invasion, than certainly nothing Mr. Brown has done should lead to his being "fired" in this situation.

Let's face it, if you can't fire people for giving you bad information that makes you out to be a liar or a fool in front of the whole world, than no one in the Bush Administration should be fierd for anything.

Besides, if Brown is to be fired because his public resumey is dodgey, than the President himself maybe should resign...and that isn't going to happen.

P.S. I remember that Clinton was pilloried and had to fire his Surgeon General because she publicly expressed her medical opinion about the harmlessness of masterbation (or something along those lines). Certainly, Mr. Brown should not be forced to resign until his position on masterbation is made more clear....

P.P.S. yet a further thought...Brown is so clearly in over his head that he should be retained because he should, by now, have developed deep sympathy and understanding of the situation in New Orleans.

P.P.P.S.: He's doing such an outstanding job in spite of the clearly partisan attacks and the Administratino has such confidence in Brown that Homeland Security just announced that they are putting an Admiral in charge of on the ground opperations...clearly, they needed to free Brown up to deal with any of the horse judging implications of the storm as they arise....
 
...and now he's been fired as FEMA director too! Wonder what billing that will get in the ole resume??

Edited to add: I can find no link yet but MSNBC just quoted AP as saying Mike Brown has been fired.
 
This Coast Gaurd Vice Admiral they've just put in charge "on the ground" seems under qualified to me. Sure, he was involved in Post 9/11 strategic planning for the coast gaurd and its role in the war on terrorism, but his experience with horse judges and Republican fund raising is minimal. IT is hard to see how he merrits this elevation of his position.
 
rikzilla said:
...and now he's been fired as FEMA director too! Wonder what billing that will get in the ole resume??

Edited to add: I can find no link yet but MSNBC just quoted AP as saying Mike Brown has been fired.
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On the CNN front page:
FEMA director Michael Brown being sent back to Washington; Homeland Security Director Chertoff to announce new leader for on-the-ground Katrina relief efforts, senior administration official tells CNN. Details soon.
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He has not, as yet been "fired." He has been sent back to the home office while someone competent (hopefully) can do his job in the field. Afterall, how can Bush fire him if he's "doing a heck of a job?"
 
Well, everyone got their wish. The guy's career is now dead.

What baseline was the FEMA response judged against by the way?
 
Okay, I'm pissed off. From Zakur's link:
Brown's biography on the FEMA Web site says he had once served as an "assistant city manager with emergency services oversight," .... city spokeswoman told the magazine Brown had actually worked as "an assistant to the city manager." ... "The assistant is more like an intern,"
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How on earth does somebody get hired to such an important position, with responsibility for the safety of some 300 million people, without their resume first being vetted for accuracy? :mad: He should have never gotten through the application process, assuming the Time article is factual.
 
roger said:
Okay, I'm pissed off. From Zakur's link:

How on earth does somebody get hired to such an important position, with responsibility for the safety of some 300 million people, without their resume first being vetted for accuracy?
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He wasn't hired as chief. He was a crony appointment by the former chief and got promoted when he left.

I think that tells you all you need to know about why resume padding wasn't vetted.
 
hgc said:
He has not, as yet been "fired." He has been sent back to the home office while someone competent (hopefully) can do his job in the field. Afterall, how can Bush fire him if he's "doing a heck of a job?"
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I only posted what MSNBC reported. Their initial blurb was that the AP said he was "fired". they have since modified that statement.

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roger said:
Okay, I'm pissed off. From Zakur's link:

How on earth does somebody get hired to such an important position, with responsibility for the safety of some 300 million people, without their resume first being vetted for accuracy? :mad: He should have never gotten through the application process, assuming the Time article is factual.
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Maybe he knows where the WMDs are hidden? ;)
 
hgc said:
Afterall, how can Bush fire him if he's "doing a heck of a job?"
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Its a tradition. "I'll stand by Zoe Baird" -Bill Clinton

You put on a good public face so that people you nominate for positions will know that you won't turn on them when it becomes politically expedient. In public you support them, in private you tell them to fall on the sword or you fire them.
 
corplinx said:
Well, everyone got their wish. The guy's career is now dead.

What baseline was the FEMA response judged against by the way?
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Cry me a river. His career at FEMA was a Frankentstein monster to start with.

I don't know what the standard is, but to hear the guy on Thursday of last week that he just found out that day about the people at the Convention Center doesn't meet any reasonable standard.
 
hgc said:

I don't know what the standard is, but to hear the guy on Thursday of last week that he just found out that day about the people at the Convention Center doesn't meet any reasonable standard.
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I can see very plausible reasons why this happened. I think this isn't the "slam dunk" you are looking for. However, it plays well with the humanoids so its being milked for all its worth.

I am shamed to admit, I didn't know people were in the convention center either. I was watching the coverage, knew about the people in the superdome, hadn't heard a word about the convention center either during the evac or afterwords until the Brown thing.
 
It's just amazing that two roommates in college were BOTH the best men for the job of FEMA chief when the opportunities arose. What are the odds? WHAT are the odds!?!?!
 
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