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Merged FBI Video Release

RedIbis said:
So you'll come up with this long post, complete with diagrams, but you won't simply post a photo of this debris field.
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I can't stress enough that this isn't just some cheap game of sophistry RedIbis is playing. He's not trying to be clever. He has a genuine desire to see a photo of that debris field, and is of course conducting himself in the same honest and straightforward manner in which he always does.
 
911files said:
Yep. He asked where the debris was. Rather than showing him a picture, I simply made a prediction where the debris would be found if a plane hit the Pentagon. You may not be aware, but some claim that one did not and the debris was planted. So, I modeled and made a prediction. He now needs to Google "Ingersoll" and see if observation matches the prediction. Simple stuff really.
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Picture 13? The twisted scrap, is that your debris field?
 
I know of at least 40 different pieces of debris outside the Pentagon that have characteristics typical of AA aircraft parts (e.g. lime-green primer, rows of rivets, shiny aluminum skin, red paint on metal, red lettering, struts and other parts), 36 of these were photographed in the area delineated by 911files. Amongst these are many, many other smaller pieces that cannot be described at the detail resolved in the extant images, but which probably contain a large proportion of similar aircraft fragments.
 
Google "Ingersoll" you lazy twoofer...do I have to do all the work for you.
 
RedIbis said:
Picture 13? The twisted scrap, is that your debris field?
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RedIbis asks this question because he is sincerely curious. He is unclear about certain details of the Pentagon crash site and wishes to be better informed. Once he receives reasonable answers to his queries, he will accept them and and move on. He is not at all engaging in a ridiculous and entirely transparent exercise of intellectual dishonesty. Anyone who has read his posts knows that such behavior would be beneath him.
 
RedIbis said:
But if the bodies were inside the bldg then we wouldn't expect to see them in the video. Unless nearly all of Flight 77 entered the bldg or disintegrated upon impact, it should be visible in the video.
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Yes, nearly all of AA77 entered the building (as the outer part of the wings and the vertical stabilizer accounted for only a fraction of the mass of the plane) AND it disintegrated upon impact. Therefore, by your own criteria, not much of it should be visible in videos and photos documenting the lawn and heliport.
 
Some photographed pieces of debris. Bear in mind that publicly released photos by no means exhaustively document the extent of the debris. The asterisked debris are those photographed in the heliport and northwest lawn area:

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See, now you had to go mess up his homework assignment :)
 
I wonder how many man hours it took the NWO to manufacture and then twist and deform all that material. Maybe they just crashed another aircraft in the desert and took that material. Some of it would be quite heavy too so they would need to truck it in and then use hoists to position bits knowing full well that each part would be documented. They did this all in daylight before anyone arrived on the scene and even managed to plant heavy landing gear inside the building which would have been extremely dangerous. Very impressive.
 
T.A.M. said:
Agreed. Unless the plane sits on the front lawn in 4 or less pieces, then OBVIOUSLY any debris is PLANTED/FAKED!!!

TAM;)
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Actually, I still don't think he'd believe it. Maybe I'm jaded, but I believe someone who considers 9/11 to be an "inside job", and is exposed to a site like this and remains a CTist for more then a few weeks, will never change their mind.

Sites like this are helpful, but it can't help those that don't want help, or can't be helped.
 
DavidJames said:
Actually, I still don't think he'd believe it. Maybe I'm jaded, but I believe someone who considers 9/11 to be an "inside job", and is exposed to a site like this and remains a CTist for more then a few weeks, will never change their mind.

Sites like this are helpful, but it can't help those that don't want help, or can't be helped.
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And if there was clear video, especially released now, he would talk about how "convenient" it is to have such a clear picture of the attack.
 
Pardalis said:
Why not talk about the bodies and the DNA?

Oh, right, it's easier to deny pieces of metal than pieces of people.
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shouldn't be that hard (to deny the body parts and DNA), I mean Dom Dimaggio just put a paper proposing exactly that (that there were no body parts at the shanksville site).

TAM:)
 
RedIbis said:
Except you don't have a clear picture of that.
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I dont' have a clear picture of you either, but I'm fairly certain that there is human sitting in front of a computer somewhere typing under the name RedIbis....but then again....
 
RedIbis said:
Except you don't have a clear picture of that.
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The DNA, the debris, the damage, the witnesses, the FDR, these video made in a free country where anyone can film, photo, an event constitute clear evidence of the terrorist attacking the Pentagon. It was so complicated they had but two steps and those two steps too simple for 911Truth to grasp. We have a group of people unable to understand reality.

The terrorist had a simple plan, kill pilots, fly into buildings. Your 911Truth apology for terrorist society has thousands involved in such a convoluted idiot scheme they have found me guilty and some of you friends in 911Truth are going to hang me when idiots rule the earth.

If there were a clearer picture you would make up some delusion of hologram, fake, planted, etc, as your inability to reason continued so you can apologize for terrorist and not help understand 911, or figure it out.

A blind person can understand 911, what is your excuse for supporting delusions and not understanding 911?
 
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