Merged FBI Video Release

[RedIbis]

I dont' have a clear picture of you either, but I'm fairly certain that there is human sitting in front of a computer somewhere typing under the name RedIbis....but then again....

No, it's actually a red ibis. I use my prominent beak to peck out my posts.

 

[johnny karate]

Except you don't have a clear picture of that.

RedIbis is merely making a statement of fact regarding pictures in the possesion of one specific person. He is not implying such a picture does not exist nor is he implying that the absence of a picture indicates the subject of said picture does not exist. He knows that would be an incredibly stupid thing to suggest. RedIbis only wishes to engage in lively debate in the intellectually honest manner in which he always does, and I for one applaud his noble efforts.

 

[johnny karate]

Editing for civility/Rule 12.

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[Bobert]

 

[Tweeter]

Off-topic content removed.

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[Disbelief]

Except you don't have a clear picture of that.

Let me help you out here Red (bolding added).

And if there was clear video, especially released now, he would talk about how "convenient" it is to have such a clear picture of the attack.

By using the word if, I was making this a hypothetical situation. Since your reading comprehension appears to be lacking, maybe I just need to say it in plain English. No matter what evidence is shown to you, you will find a way to discredit it so you can stay in your little fantasy world. You have demonstrated this repeatedly, and appear to lack the capacity to actually learn anything.

 

[Crazytimes]

I received 2 DVD's from the FBI this morning as an interim release for FOIA 1078686-000. I have one converted to MPG and uploaded, but I'm trying to get the second one trimmed down in file size (wmv file) so that it can be accessed on the web (currently 700mb). I'll post a link for both, although the NE485 link may not be operative for a few hours while I trim it down.

These are the file descriptions as provided by the FBI. The witness face in NE418 is blurred out by the FBI Privacy review.

NE418 - One(1) VHS video cassette, Witness interviews near Pentagon after attack. (26 MB)​

This witness claims he saw a plane fly over the Pentagon. No wait a minute, fly into the Pentagon, followed by a second white decoy jet. Whoops, wrong again, he says the second plane was a four-engine gray plane that veered off.

NE485 - One(1) VHS video cassette, labeled "9/11/2001", Footage of post-crash Pentagon crime scene obtained from Chief Mastin, Prince William County. (68 MB)​

One interesting scene with the NTSB examining missile parts (or could those be plane parts?).

I highly recommend right-click, "save target as" due to the file size.

Quick question 911files. I sent you a PM about this. Or if anyone else knows. What is the explanation for the witness in the first video you linked seeing a plane following flight 77 towards the pentagon ?

 

[BCR]

GOFER06 - A C-130. Has been discussed/debated to death here and elsewhere. Perhaps Boone870 or Mangoose would like to link some of their work on the subject for you.

 

[beachnut]

Quick question 911files. I sent you a PM about this. Or if anyone else knows. What is the explanation for the witness in the first video you linked seeing a plane following flight 77 towards the pentagon ?

GOFER06 - A C-130. Has been discussed/debated to death here and elsewhere. Perhaps Boone870 or Mangoose would like to link some of their work on the subject for you.

The 130 was asked by ATC to follow the plane not talking to ATC, that had flown right in front of GOFER06 descending and turning toward the Pentagon. So 06 followed 77 and turned next to the Pentagon and then flew home.

 

[Crazytimes]

Thanks all. That is what I was looking for.

 

[BCR]

Here is a thread Reheat did on the subject.

 

[911kongen]

Vdot camera, pentagon

Why did not the vdot camera, a cross the street, get flight 77 on film?

 

[BCR]

Two reasons.

1) The VDOT cameras do not record unless law enforcement requests it for a special circumstance.

2) The camera pole you are referring to was affected by the plane (wing clip or vibration) and knocked the camera loose in its housing (according to VDOT). The camera was effectively off-line as a result.

 

[ULTIMA1]

2) The camera pole you are referring to was affected by the plane (wing clip or vibration) and knocked the camera loose in its housing (according to VDOT). The camera was effectively off-line as a result.

So if the camera was effected by wing clip or vibration it would show a flight path of the plane. Also if was a wing clip there should be evidence.

 

[BCR]

So if the camera was effected by wing clip or vibration it would show a flight path of the plane. Also if was a wing clip there should be evidence.

Talk to VDOT about it (I did). And you are not a very good investigoogler if you have not found the picture of the abrasion on the VDOT pole (hint: Ingersoll).

 

[ULTIMA1]

And you are not a very good investigoogler if you have not found the picture of the abrasion on the VDOT pole (hint: Ingersoll).

So if was a wing clip there should be evidence for the crime scence investigation. Correct?

Also it would show flight path of the plane.

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Edited for Rule 11

 

[BCR]

There is, and it is posted here at JREF. Start investigoogling!

 

[T.A.M.]

I am going to ask the mods to merge this thread with one of the other "Pentagon Camera" Threads.

TAM

 

[BCR]

Works for me TAM. It'll make it easier for U1 to find what he needs.

 

[BCR]

U1, no one believes you. Sorry, but someone had to tell you. You are simply an internet troll trying to cause trouble and see how many posts you can do. You are not worth my time putting together anything because you would not believe it anyways and come up with some stupid line about how the FBI only investigated for 5 days.

The VDOT pole has been discussed at length here at JREF (including photos). Go find the material for yourself.