Fascist America, in 10 easy steps

[jsfisher]

From the innocence in wikipedia, namely from:

"Innocence is a term that describes the lack of guilt of an individual, with respect to a crime..."

this:

applies.


Like I said, you struggle with analytical skills.

You have provided no connection from innocence to integrity. You have provided no connection from innocence to honesty.

Those were your claims. Where is your evidence?

By the way, your wikipedia article gets rather specific when focusing on the innocence of children:

People who lack the mental capacity to understand the nature of their acts may be regarded as innocent regardless of their behavior. From this meaning comes the term innocent to refer to a child under the age of reason, or a person, of any age, who is severely mentally disabled.

Thank you for providing further support of my position.

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

No.

But the danger to today's peace are right wingers.

Not left wingers.

To each their dues in time and circumstances.

Did not the left wing win the mid-term elections and choose to fund the war?

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

It appears that Wolfe has taken a page from the John Birch Society playbook by replacing the left's boogie man, Fascists, with the JBS boogie man, the Reds. This scary" call to arms from the far right has been around for 50 years and is almost a mirror image of Wolfe's screed http://www.libertyzone.com/Communist-Manifesto-Planks.html

Just to set the record straight. Fascists are leftist.

 

[Ion]

You have provided no connection from innocence to integrity. You have provided no connection from innocence to honesty.
...

No kidding.

The illiterate in his native language thinks that there is no connection between innocence, integrity, and honesty.


So maybe Bush is innocent, without integrity and honesty.
He didn't know December 2000 that invading Iraq for oil was being discussed with him in a cabinet meeting, and he used the connection 9/11-Iraq regardless, because he is innocent without integrity and honesty.
Suuure.

Or he has integrity, but no innocence and no honesty.

And so on.

Only in America there are loonies like jsfisher post shows, I tell you...

...
By the way, your wikipedia article gets rather specific when focusing on the innocence of children:
...

There are multiple facets af the word innocence.
wikipedia shows them all.

The one I used, I proved it.


Learn your native language, guy.

 

[Texas]

Just to set the record straight. Fascists are leftist.

Well if you want to use the "Socialist" moniker in the "National Socialist Party" I guess you could interpret that but, given Hitlers response to the Communists in Germany I would not do so.

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

I bumped this thread to have a talk about the topic.

Flame wars over the definition of innocent are boring.

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

Well if you want to use the "Socialist" moniker in the "National Socialist Party" I guess you could interpret that but, given Hitlers response to the Communists in Germany I would not do so.

Factions of the same ideology.

Do not the Catholics and Protestants war?

 

[Texas]

Factions of the same ideology.

Do not the Catholics and Protestants war?

Let's put it this way, they were both totalitarian movements. It matters not which wing of the political spectrum they started from. They both sucked.

 

[Ion]

I bumped this thread to have a talk about the topic.

Flame wars over the definition of innocent are boring.

They might be boring, but useful to right wingers.

Remember how the facts were distorted in the 2004 Presidential campaign when Kerry -a Vietnam veteran- was being trashed by right wing chickenhawks.

With flame wars over the definition of what is a decorated veteran.

With flame wars over the definition of who is responsible for 9/11.

With flame wars over the definition of family values as espoused by the killers themselves, and with flame wars of who combats Hitler's legacy.

Here:

That's an interesting grasp on language you have there. You describe yourself has having childlike innocence, a term that means you are shielded from some of the less pleasant aspects of reality. Yet, you believe that translates to integrity. Fascinating.

Be that as it may, exactly what point are you trying to make?



If by "counter, often with data" you mean taunted with incivility and grammatical errors, then yes. Otherwise, you merely flatter yourself.

jsfisher starts a flame war over innocence (after unsuccessfully trying his hand at my "..grammatical errors..."), then when that fails he shifts it into integrity and honesty.

Beware of the ethics and 'education' of right wingers.

 

[jsfisher]

No kidding.

The illiterate in his native language thinks that there is no connection between innocence, integrity, and honesty.

You seem to be having trouble making the connection. Why is that?

...irrelevant attempt at a distraction snipped...
Only in America there are loonies like jsfisher post shows, I tell you...

So, when logic and reason fails you, you resort to insult? Excellent debate strategy.

There are multiple facets af the word innocence.
wikipedia shows them all.

Perhaps not all facets, but many, I'll give you that. It even covered the meaning of innocence in the context you used it, childhood innocence.

The one I used, I proved it.

No, the one you used was a diversion, and a poor one at that. On the one hand, it didn't establish the connections you'd claimed; on the other, it was not for the meaning of innocence as you had used it.

 

[jsfisher]

I bumped this thread to have a talk about the topic.

Flame wars over the definition of innocent are boring.

Well, since Ion doesn't seem to be able to focus on what should have been a simple side issue, I'll stop now. He can claim victory, albeit an empty one.

 

[Ion]

Well, since Ion doesn't seem to be able to focus on what should have been a simple side issue, I'll stop now. He can claim victory, albeit an empty one.

You don't focus.

You started with my grammatical errors.
It didn't work.

Then innocence.
It didn't work.

Then honesty.
Then integrity.

Keep on lying.

I have time for you.

 

[Ion]

You seem to be having trouble making the connection. Why is that?
...

You seem to have trouble making the connection, not me.

Innocence involves integrity and honesty.

Here:

http://www.actualfreedom.com.au/library/topics/honesty.htm

it is shown how they are linked together in children and corrupted in adulthood.


Learn your native language first things first, guy.

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

jsfisher starts a flame war over innocence (after unsuccessfully trying his hand at my "..grammatical errors..."), then when that fails he shifts it into integrity and honesty

You allowed yourself to be baited.

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

Let's put it this way, they were both totalitarian movements. It matters not which wing of the political spectrum they started from. They both sucked.

Agreed!

What do to think about the trans-Texas corridor?

 

[Ion]

You allowed yourself to be baited.

I want to be baited by him.

I pull the teeth out of chickenhawks this way.

 

[jsfisher]

You allowed yourself to be baited.

I have a prediction about what's going to happen next....


ETA: Oops, too slow. Already came true.

 

[Elizabeth I]

You troll hypocritically.

Yeah, you guys, could you start trolling sincerely? I'm tired of all this hypocritical trolling.

Only sincere trolls need apply.

 

[JEROME DA GNOME]

I want to be baited by him.

I pull the teeth out of chickenhawks this way.

Chickens do not have teeth.

 

[Ion]

I have a prediction about what's going to happen next....


ETA: Oops, too slow. Already came true.

I have a prediction too.

You will drop.

After grammatical errors which didn't work well for you, innocence which didn't work well for you, you will drop from the thread, toothless.