Merged Fan Death in Korea

KBS just released an article attempting to debunk fan death. Here's the link, although it's in Korean.
http://news.kbs.co.kr/article/science/200707/20070730/1399775.html

They ran a series of tests (sound familiar) comparing adult males sleeping with the fan on and with the fan off. Their conclusions were that sleeping with the fan on results in more exposure to oxygen, rather than less, and that the fan cannot significantly lower body temperature. I think sceptics are starting to figure it out and rallying against fan death, but it is still a deeply entrenched belief among most Koreans.

There are some interesting comments at the bottom.
-one girl writes that she slept with the fan on in a small room, and when she woke up she was completely paralysed. She believes in fan death.
-Another person writes that he always thought it was a silly belief, but everyone else forced him to sleep with the fan on.
-That's three for fan death and two against, in the comments.
This is fascinating. I cannot believe anyone would need to be convinced. Not in the modern world. Surely anyone truly interested in knowing if some tale they have been told is true or false they could simply look for a bit of info in the library or online and that should be the end of it. Mind boggling.
 
This is fascinating. I cannot believe anyone would need to be convinced. Not in the modern world.

I work with a man who was raised in Korea, but has lived hre in the states for many years. Bright guy. Solid computer programming skills.

Swears that "fan death" is a real phenomenon. In fact, was very surprised when I showed him skeptical articles about it. I told him I've slept like that thousands of times in my life. Every time I see him in the hallway I rib him about it. ("Slept with the fan on yet?" "No, not yet...")

He's a bit sheepish sbout the belief now, but I can tell he isn't about to test the theory out any time soon.

Culture is a powerful thing.
 
This is fascinating. I cannot believe anyone would need to be convinced. Not in the modern world. Surely anyone truly interested in knowing if some tale they have been told is true or false they could simply look for a bit of info in the library or online and that should be the end of it. Mind boggling.

It is amazing, yet why would anyone think to fact-check it at the library when there are newspapers, TV stations, doctors, and even fan manufacturers warning you about the danger lurking in the corner of your bedroom? I even have my doubts you could walk into a library and find a single book sceptical about fan death. What kind of boring library would stock books on fans?
 
It is a fact that sleeping with a fan in your room will cause death but only if you are Korean. This is due to their different genetic make up. On the plus side they can have mentos and cola safely as they digest food in a different manner to caucasians. :p
 
It is a fact that sleeping with a fan in your room will cause death but only if you are Korean. This is due to their different genetic make up. On the plus side they can have mentos and cola safely as they digest food in a different manner to caucasians. :p

I've had no complaints from anyone who graduated my course on stopping locomotives with PurThought Powr (R) while standing on the tracks! Nobody shows up for the refresher courses, though. :(
 
Everyone uses air con and fans in an enclosed draft free space.......

When they drive their car. This space is smaller than a room so effects would be expected to be worse, which it isn`t.

Don`t see any evidence of people dying in their vehicles from having fan or aircon on.
 
I think you have to go to sleep with the fan on.

I definitely would not recommend doing this whilst driving your car.
 
I'm surprised to hear that a practice I've been engaging in during hot summer nights for, oh, let me think... about eleven years or so, has in fact been killing me every night I've done it.

Damn. It's a good thing I loaded up on 1UP mushrooms when I was but a boy.
 
I lived in Korea for 4 years and never heard of "fan death" and no one I knew would go without a fan blowing all day and night (it is HOT in the summer). The only ONLY reasons I could think of that some form of "fan death" might exist is from the heating systems. Basically, burning charcoal fills pipes under the floor with hot air, warming the house. Any US military living off base is required to live in a house that uses water to heat, but there are still plenty of the old style heating systems in use.

Traditionally, bedding is lain on the floor and a fan *might* stir up carbon monoxide that lays trapped from leaking pipes under the raised floors of the closed rooms up to the level of a sleeper.
 
South Korea's "Fan Death" phenomenon is amazing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death

I just heard about this tonight. Not that we don't have our equivalents here in the states, but I can't think of anything at the moment. Nothing this dire at least.

"Fan death is a South Korean urban legend which states that an electric fan, if left running overnight in a closed room, can cause the death (by suffocation, poisoning, or hypothermia) of those inside. Fans manufactured and sold in Korea are equipped with a timer switch that turns them off after a set number of minutes, which users are frequently urged to set when going to sleep with a fan on."
 
As I said in one of the other threads, I have slept in a closed room with a fan for the majority of my life. 30+ years at least. Nearly every single night. Would have been every single night if I could, I find the white noise soothing, but sometimes fans would break or I'd be out of town, etc. I also own a small device that plays sounds like rain on the roof and waves crashing on a shore for when I don't have a fan.

Never had any major health problems or issues that arose from it.
 
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Dibs on the computer!

My brother had one of those cases. They suck balls. Seriously crappy.

He more than likely bled to death from wounds inflicted by his crappy PC case while trying to swap out the hard drive.

Or maybe they are right and his qi strangled his chi causing him to wi.

Actually my money is on "his girlfriend caught him surfing pr0n on his computer with the $5 case and beat him to death with the fan". Fan death. Yeh.
 
I have slept in an enclosed room with an electric fan for years and here I am.
 
I was stationed at Camp Sears in Uijongbu in 1992. I can attest that a fan blowing on me in a closed room did not kill me, despite numerous chances.

I was at Camp Castle in Tong Du Chon, and had a fan running for at LEAST 2 months straight during the summer (1989).

Still here. Or so I claim.
 
Not to hijack the thread here but apparently you missed history class when they covered the Crusades. Maybe there weren't any planes back then but that didn't stop the Christians from slaughtering Muslims including children.

Just to correct an inaccuracy, unlike most of the Muslim terrorism, the Crusades were not religiously motivated, they were politically motivated. in fact, they originally began as a defense against encroachment into the Middle East and Europe of Islamic conquerors, who had no qualms against slaughtering Christian, Jewish, and Pagan women and children.

Religion merely provided a convenient cover story and method of firing up the serf levies.

The earliest, and indeed a substantial number of later, Crusades didn't involve Islam at all, but were directed primarily at the Cathars and similar heretics and political enemies of the Pope. Even these were not necessarily religiously based, but due more to the fact that they were breakaways who formed a notably opposition to Papal political influence,

The primary motivation for the later Crusades was extending the empire, to increase the wealth and power of the ruling classes; and providing occupation for an increasingly large and restless population of young nobility, in order to prevent them causing trouble at home. Due to Roman secular influence, the Church became involved because it was increasingly becoming a political entity more concerned with temporal power than religious influence; and also saw it as a way to expand their influence and channel some of that wealth to their own coffers. It was a culmination of a trend which started in the early Medieval period and the expansion into western Europe; and which was partially reversed by the Reformation. This melding of Church and State was heavily criticized by many in the Church, particularly after the Great Schism, and was a serious point of contention between East and West.

Islam was in a considerably different positon, in that there was no tradition of seperation of Church and State. In fact, exactly the opposite is true, Islam allows no such seperation, and prescribes a specific theocratic government as the ideal, with the Khalif holding both supreme temporal power, and supreme, or at least co-equal, religious authority. It also promotes forced conversion, enslavement or subjugation of non-Muslims, and violent elimination of any people unwilling to convert or live as subjugated peoples. There has never been the same opposition to violent expansion and conquest in the historical Islamic world as there has among the Christian and Jewish worlds.

I believe it was the Muslim conquerer, Suliman who actually conquered the Christians and then didn't slaughter them all, bucking the centuries of tradition.
I am unable to find any info on a leader called Suliman. The closest I could find were Saladin, the leader of the majority of the Islamic world during the early Crusades; and Suleiman the Magnificent, who was the leader of the later Ottoman empire. Neither one had any qualms about slaughtering women and children during their reign.

Saladin did refrain from such wholesale slaughter on two occasions. The first being during his conquest of Jerusalem, and then only under the threat of wholesale slaughter of Muslims and the destruction of the Jerusalem mosques by Balian of Ibelin, leader of the forces defending the city. The second was the result of a series of "gentleman's agreements" between him and Richard Coeur de Lion, who he greatly respected, and who had manage to successfully stall his advances into Europe.

Suleiman was the leader of the Ottoman Empire well after the end of the Crusades, during the Reformation/Rennaisance period. His conquest of much of Europe was every bit as bloody as any previous war; and it wasn't until later in his rule, when he had consolidated his empire, that he began to institute reforms. And even then, Shari'ah was the dominant ruling code, and all of his civil reforms and legislation were carefully kept from violating Shari'ah principles.
 

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