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Fall US Elections

casebro said:
Thar sounds like a scam. Maybe the GOP is behind it, trying to burn out the Dem donors? ;)
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Were only that the truth. No, they're legit, all right. Just unconscionable whores, and not in a good way, either.

Michael
 
Florida is full of ads (at least in my area) where Christ is being flamed for agreeing that "Obamacare has been great!". The ad then goes on to show the typical paid actors stating how they were harmed by Obamacare, and provide no actual examples that are different than what was already happening before the ACA was enacted (rates going up, plans being dropped, etc.)

While this is for the governor of Florida, it certainly carries over to other races here too. The ad makes me so angry though since it is so insincere.
 
Thomas Frank explained in The Wrecking Crew (book)WP that promoting conservative causes can be quite lucrative. I can see evidence of this in my Facebook feed. To give one example, an organization calling itself the Hunter Defense Fund is posting sponsored ads claiming that Mark Udall is threatening my hunting rights. But the organization doesn't seem to be more than one guy and an almost content free web site. The web site doesn't have any information regarding why Udall is a threat.

This is probably just a money making scheme. I get the anti Udall version because I live in Colorado. A quick cut and paste and the same ad could target Al Frankin in Minnesota or any of the other races being held this year. The ad is completely generic aside from the unflattering photo, the candidate name and the state name.
 
foophil said:
Florida is full of ads (at least in my area) where Christ is being flamed for agreeing that "Obamacare has been great!". The ad then goes on to show the typical paid actors stating how they were harmed by Obamacare, and provide no actual examples that are different than what was already happening before the ACA was enacted (rates going up, plans being dropped, etc.)

While this is for the governor of Florida, it certainly carries over to other races here too. The ad makes me so angry though since it is so insincere.
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That will teach him though. A politician should never answer that question that way. Just launch into explaining the benefits, so there is no sound bite to be used against you.
 
RCP Averages has MI back in the "Likely Dem" column, putting the race at 45 Dem, 46 GOP, 9 Toss-ups. For folks who can't do the math, that means the Dems need to take 6 of those 9 while the Republicans only need 5, while they currently lead in 7. I just don't see the Dems picking up 6/9 on that list.

They'd need to solidify small leads in NC and NH, which should not be that hard. In the corn/wheat belt, they need to hold onto their slim margin in IA and count on caucusing with the IND candidate in KS. But that's still just 4. They need to recover in CO, which can be done. That puts it at 50/50(counting 3 Independents as Dem supporters, which they would be).

So to win? Can Billary still swing Arkansas? It's a close enough race and I think the good old boys would still come out for Bubba.

Georgia? Is the Nunn name strong enough? Would getting Mister Sam out there for a couple of days pull a few rural votes here and there. A whole lot of good old boys owe Sam Nunn.

I don't think the demographics in Louisiana or Alaska favor the Dems. Even if the polls start tilting Dem in Alaska, I wouldn't trust their whimsical nature. Lying to pollsters is the official state sport. And the only hope Mary Landrieu has is if both of the conservatives step in it, big time. Maybe someone could come up with footage of them claiming that Louisiana alligators are wusses compared to Florida alligators. Or they could be photoshopped into t-shirts saying "Go Tide".

It's gonna be close. I think it looks like 51 - 49 GOP.
 
45-45-10

This morning (evening where you are), RCP has moved McConnell's KY seat into the toss-up column.

Silver has a slight (about a percentage point) shift towards the Dems, but the GOP still has the lead in most of the toss-up states.
 
jj said:
More deliberate lies intended to take the election:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/debtfree.asp
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It is a ************* chain e-mail!

If anonymous e-mails that can easily be debunked by Snopes or by anyone with access to the internet are going to change the outcome of mid-term elections, then I say it is time to let America die. We should just stop paying off treasury bills and treasury bonds and just let the creditors foreclose.
 
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Ladewig said:
It is a ************* chain e-mail!

If anonymous e-mails that can easily be debunked by Snopes or by anyone with access to the internet are going to change the outcome of mid-term elections, then I say it is time to let America die. We should just stop paying off treasury bills and treasury bonds and just let the creditors foreclose.
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"can be easily debunked" but a lot of people don't bother.

I have an uncle, a reasonably intelligent man, who forwards those things all the time. He accepts them without any investigation and he's far from unique. Every once in a while I send him a Snopes link and tell him it's BS. I explain how to look it up. Does he? Nope. For the next few he will send them to me with the question "Is this true?" Most of the time I just say "Nope". Then time passes and he goes back to just forwarded around the crap again.

I've asked him why does he forward those things when I've told him 99 out of 100 are not true. Answer: "Well sometimes I agree with them so I don't care."
 
Spindrift said:
"can be easily debunked" but a lot of people don't bother.

I have an uncle, a reasonably intelligent man, who forwards those things all the time. He accepts them without any investigation and he's far from unique. Every once in a while I send him a Snopes link and tell him it's BS. I explain how to look it up. Does he? Nope. For the next few he will send them to me with the question "Is this true?" Most of the time I just say "Nope". Then time passes and he goes back to just forwarded around the crap again.

I've asked him why does he forward those things when I've told him 99 out of 100 are not true. Answer: "Well sometimes I agree with them so I don't care."
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Much of the BS I see on my Facebook feed can be easily debunked with a quick trip to Snopes. The anti government quotes from the founding fathers or other historical figures are almost all falsely attributed according to Wikiquotes. But people stll forward the stuff because it fits with thier existing suspicions and hatreds.

Part of the problem is that so few Americans really learn how to evaluate information. They don't check what they read against other sources, or even against what they already know. The hard core zealots go a step further, with claims that the media is hiding the truth, that Snopes is a fraud or that all of the fact checkers are shills for liberals.
 
Kestrel said:
Much of the BS I see on my Facebook feed can be easily debunked with a quick trip to Snopes. The anti government quotes from the founding fathers or other historical figures are almost all falsely attributed according to Wikiquotes. But people stll forward the stuff because it fits with thier existing suspicions and hatreds.

Part of the problem is that so few Americans really learn how to evaluate information. They don't check what they read against other sources, or even against what they already know. The hard core zealots go a step further, with claims that the media is hiding the truth, that Snopes is a fraud or that all of the fact checkers are shills for liberals.
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People tend to take comfort in the confirmation of their beliefs. A little cognitive dissonance adds spice, but a TV stuck on Fox or MSNBC mostly would annoy followers of the competing political faith. Expect reportage on both sides to get more stridently partisan as election day nears.

Fact checkers are people, who have their political preferences and agendas. Perhaps people visit Snopes and Politifact because these sites fit with their existing suspicions and hatreds. Most likely, "debunked" anti-government quote are false. For real anti-government quotes from the founders of the US government, all you have to do is read the letters of Thomas Jefferson or Hamilton/Madison/Jay, The Federalist.

As to "the media is (sic) hiding the truth": what to discuss and where to point the camera are editorial decisions. Which newspapers and networks covered Saddam Hussein's fraudulent Iraqi oil for food program and which did not? Which newspapers and networks covered the House hearings on the politicization of the IRS? As a group, Journalism majors rank with Education majors and Social Work majors at the bottom of the rankings on standardized tests for graduate school admission (GRE, LSAT, GMAT). Journalists are overwhelmingly Democrats.
 
Ladewig said:
There are media outlets reporting that President Obama is going to be impeached and removed from office?
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Nope, but there are plenty of media outlets reporting that conservatives are constantly calling for impeachment.
 
The Don said:
Over the course of his presidency:

Darrell Issa
James Inhofe
Tom Coburn
Blake Farenthold
Kerry Bentivolio
Jason Chaffetz
Allen West
Sarah Palin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to_impeach_Barack_Obama

Those were the ones I found in a 20 second Google search, I'm sure there are many, many more
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From your link:..."No Congressional Representative has drawn up a list of articles of impeachment and proposed them to the Judiciary Committee."

It's one thing to say that President has committed impeachable acts (the undeclared wars against Libya and Mexico (Fast and Furious), use of the IRS against political opponents, failure to enforce immigration laws, work requirements for welfare, his ACA waivers), and another thing to call for the House to impeach. Republicans would need sixty Senate votes to convict, or it would just waste time.

Media impeachment talk serves to rally the devout.
 
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Malcolm Kirkpatrick said:
From your link:..."No Congressional Representative has drawn up a list of articles of impeachment and proposed them to the Judiciary Committee."

It's one thing to say that President has committed impeachable acts (the undeclared wars against Libya and Mexico (Fast and Furious), use of the IRS against political opponents, failure to enforce immigration laws, work requirements for welfare, his ACA waivers), and another thing to call for the House to impeach. Republicans would need sixty Senate votes to convict, or it would just waste time.

Media impeachment talk serves to rally the devout.
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You asked for examples for cases where conservatives have called for impeachment - I provided them.

Of course impeachment proceedings haven't started, they're groundless.
 
It is one of the more bizarre "We have always been at war with Eastasia" Orwellian moments I have ever witnessed, this bogus what-are-you-talking-about pretense by the Right that they have not been demanding Obama's impeachment all these years.

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