Explosion at the Boston Marathon.

phiwum said:
My questions were in response to Dan O.'s post, not yours.

You have not questioned whether photos and names were published, far as I can tell, so your answers aren't surprising. He did question both, I think. Hence the question.
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Sorry, my mistake.
 
Dan O. said:
Was it Internet sleuths that named Abdulrahman Ali Alharbi, interrogated him in the hospital, searched his apartment and claimed he was being deported because he was on the terrorist watch list?
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Sorry, this has nothing at all to do with my post, so I will ignore it presently.

Yes, I ask you to provide evidence to support your case and not just echo baseless rumors like a junior g-man Internet sleuth.
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I think you're just playing games now. You do not seriously wonder whether internet sleuths published photos showing people they believe were suspicious.

Nonetheless, I'll humor your (literal) faux ignorance. Here's a single page in which an internet sleuth publishes both a photo and a name as a suspect.

So, there you have it. You don't have to trust any claims. There's the evidence you pretended you required.
 
zeggman said:
The authorities are reporting that the reason the M.I.T. guard was killed is that the pair wanted his gun.

They had only one gun at the time.

The guard had a locking holster, however, so their attempt to acquire his gun was unsuccessful.

Maybe that's why they hijacked a car too, even though they already had one car.
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I haven't seen that yet. Do you have a reference?

Thanks.
 
phiwum said:
I haven't seen that yet. Do you have a reference?

Thanks.
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"The operating theory currently held by investigators looking to explain the assassination is "that they were short one gun, that the older brother had a gun, they wanted to get a gun for the younger brother and the fastest and most efficient way they could think of doing it was a surprise attack on a cop to take his weapon and go."

But the suspects failed in that aim, because Officer Collier had a locking holster and they were unable to remove the gun. "There was apparently an attempt to yank it," Miller said, "And they couldn't get it and left."
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57580886/boston-bombers-planned-to-go-to-nyc-next-carjacking-victim-suggests/
 
zeggman said:
"The operating theory currently held by investigators looking to explain the assassination is "that they were short one gun, that the older brother had a gun, they wanted to get a gun for the younger brother and the fastest and most efficient way they could think of doing it was a surprise attack on a cop to take his weapon and go."

But the suspects failed in that aim, because Officer Collier had a locking holster and they were unable to remove the gun. "There was apparently an attempt to yank it," Miller said, "And they couldn't get it and left."
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57580886/boston-bombers-planned-to-go-to-nyc-next-carjacking-victim-suggests/
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Thanks much.
 
zeggman said:
"The operating theory currently held by investigators looking to explain the assassination is "that they were short one gun, that the older brother had a gun, they wanted to get a gun for the younger brother and the fastest and most efficient way they could think of doing it was a surprise attack on a cop to take his weapon and go."

But the suspects failed in that aim, because Officer Collier had a locking holster and they were unable to remove the gun. "There was apparently an attempt to yank it," Miller said, "And they couldn't get it and left."
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57580886/boston-bombers-planned-to-go-to-nyc-next-carjacking-victim-suggests/
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That would seem to conflict with the reports of weapons recovered at the scene of the first shootout (which said they already had at least two handguns), as well as the fact that the younger brother had a rifle with him in the boat where he was hiding.
 
phiwum said:
Nonetheless, I'll humor your (literal) faux ignorance. Here's a single page in which an internet sleuth publishes both a photo and a name as a suspect.

So, there you have it. You don't have to trust any claims. There's the evidence you pretended you required.
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Is that the best that you can do? That page attributes the identification to the Boston Police. Either the claim is factual or it is a deliberate lie. In either case, you have not showen it to be the work of junior g-men Internet sleuths.
 
Dan O. said:
Where is this BS comming from? The older brother was shooting at officers on Laurel St. when he ran out of bullets and charged the officers where he was captured and handcuffed. The younger brother drove off and abandoned the SUV 5 blocks away at the corner of Spruce and Lincoln, managed to cross the police perimeter on foot and hid out in the boat behind the house on Franklin street less than three blocks from the SUV. When police approached the boat there was gun fire. Where did the younger brother get that gun if they only had 1 gun to begin with?
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It is possible that they had only one gun with them, and wanted a second gun sooner rather than later.

The carjacked SUV was loaded with something (weapons and explosives, presumably, perhaps at the Norfolk St. home) prior to the victim's escape. Perhaps they knew they had guns there, but wanted a second gun immediately.

Pure speculation, of course, but I don't think that the report Zegg mentions is obviously ludicrous. Seems to me that the brothers were behaving pretty irrationally the whole damned time, and perhaps were even spooked by police response to the coincidental 7-11 robbery or something.

Perhaps we'll learn what actually happened as Dzhokhar talks. Or maybe some facts will always be a mystery, at least to the public.
 
ANTPogo said:
That would seem to conflict with the reports of weapons recovered at the scene of the first shootout (which said they already had at least two handguns), as well as the fact that the younger brother had a rifle with him in the boat where he was hiding.
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Hey, these theories are coming from trained law enforcement theorists.

So stop with the online speculation already. Just because you have a brain doesn't mean you have to use it.
 
ANTPogo said:
That would seem to conflict with the reports of weapons recovered at the scene of the first shootout (which said they already had at least two handguns), as well as the fact that the younger brother had a rifle with him in the boat where he was hiding.
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No conflict at all, since the SUV was loaded (with weapons, perhaps) after the carjacking. It's conceivable they had one handgun with them and, for whatever reason, wanted a second one immediately rather than returning home.

Just a guess, of course, but that's enough to show that this isn't, strictly speaking, an inconsistency.
 
Dan O. said:
Is that the best that you can do? That page attributes the identification to the Boston Police. Either the claim is factual or it is a deliberate lie.
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It's a deliberate lie. Sunil Tripathi's name was never mentioned by the Boston Police, on the scanner or otherwise. The only people who identified Suspect 2 as Tripathi were internet sleuths.
 
And in real news, the number of people injured in the bombings has been revised sharply upward, to 282. Even more remarkable that so few were actually killed (and none at all who were hospitalized).
 
zeggman said:
Hey, these theories are coming from trained law enforcement theorists.
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We don't know that, since both reports are coming from anonymous sources cited by journalists.

So stop with the online speculation already.
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I'm not sure you understand what "speculation" actually is, if you think my post was speculating about anything.

phiwum said:
No conflict at all, since the SUV was loaded (with weapons, perhaps) after the carjacking. It's conceivable they had one handgun with them and, for whatever reason, wanted a second one immediately rather than returning home.

Just a guess, of course, but that's enough to show that this isn't, strictly speaking, an inconsistency.
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True, but we have no way of knowing at this point.
 
Dan O. said:
Is that the best that you can do? That page attributes the identification to the Boston Police. Either the claim is factual or it is a deliberate lie. In either case, you have not showen it to be the work of junior g-men Internet sleuths.
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You surely know that there is no known transcript of radio messages that night which includes Tripathi's name, don't you?

Or are you asking for evidence of that, too?

This was posted on the internet, by a blogger. What more evidence do you want that it is the work of an Internet sleuth?

What specifically would satisfy your request for evidence that online sleuths published both names and photos?

If I understand correctly, the relevant Reddit thread has been deleted. Are you asking me for evidence from a deleted thread? I don't use Reddit and have no idea how hard that is to come by, but I don't think that the original claim was Reddit-specific anyway.

So, you tell me: what evidence would be sufficient to establish the claim below?

[T]he Internet sleuths explicitly named individuals and posted their portraits.
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I won't bother looking for posts until I know what counts as sufficient evidence.
 
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