Explosion at the Boston Marathon.

Travis said:
Well The Daily Show and Colbert did not disappoint in raking CNN over the coals.
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Jon Stewert in particular gave CNN Hell.

"The Human Centipede of News" is just great as was his "And the FBI Told John King to Have A Nice Hot Cup of STFU".
 
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Biscuit said:
I would like to see an un-edited version of that photo but this is what I see.

The two pieces of fencing wrapped around the "post box" appear to be from the same segment, it use to be one solid section. I don't think they were placed there as both sections appear to lean away from the "post box." It's blurry but I bet the bottom rail is still connected and the bomb blast blew it into the "post box" causing the bend. This speaks volumes for the strength of those boxes.

This is what we use but with a different connection for linking them. They are very heavy duty.

ETA: I think the feet of the section bent towards the camera position are now hinged up under the box which could explain why it hasn't all fallen over like the full segment that is laying on the victims to the left of the box.
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One possibility is the fence section bent right there next to the bomb and someone moved it out of the way, sliding it to where the bent section leaned against the post box.
 
William Parcher said:
FWIW, I don't know if people are saying that this is the bomb, but it sure doesn't look like a backpack. Way over to the right is a backpack. FWIW.


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It seemed to me the blast came further back, not in front of the barricade. I don't think that bag contained the bomb, security/race personnel directly in front of the barricade were not seriously wounded.
 
William Parcher said:
Look at the bigger images here. It's obviously not the same black iron fence or location.
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Those images of the guy bent over are at the first bomb site, not the second one.

See this post and the links in it.

Here's the street view of the Starbucks at 755 Boylston.

You can follow the street view one block down to the Lenscrafters and see there is no fence when the image was taken but the fence is there now. You can read the store sign in the image with the blast mark on the sidewalk.
 
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Ginger, I can't follow what you are saying. Maybe provide links to photos showing what you are talking about. IOW, post or link a photo and describe what you are seeing in that photo.
 
WildCat said:
It seemed to me the blast came further back, not in front of the barricade. I don't think that bag contained the bomb, security/race personnel directly in front of the barricade were not seriously wounded.
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Actually I was confusing that with the bomb closer to the finish line. Apparently the one by the mailbox was the first explosion further up the street.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Those images of the guy bent over are at the first bomb site, not the second one.
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Let me try this again for you. Look at this photo montage here. The person putting this together is trying to draw a linkage between the man bending over, his position in relation to a black iron fence, and the position of the bomb blast in relation to that same exact iron fence.

But there is an obvious problem.

Look at the first photo in upper left showing blast site (black stain) and the slotted iron fence right next to it. The fence is labeled "Fence for reference". Now look at the photo directly below it. You see the bending guy but look at what is supposed to be that fence. It isn't that fence. The label "Same fence" is pointing to some solid black thing that has no resemblance to the fence right next to the blast stain.

Then there is the kid sitting on a guy's shoulders labeled as the boy who died. Is that true? Or is 4chan pulling the wool over Ginger's eyes?
 
William Parcher said:
Correct, but that series of photos is supposed to be self-describing. The creator is saying that the bent guy is in the same place as the blast mark (next to black fence). He is not.
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He is, and Martin is inside the black fence.

Look at the second image of the guy bent over. On the right, the image without the three text boxes, zoom in.

The guy with the white shirt and cap is on this side of the fence. You can see the first rail post to his left. It merges with a person's legs so you see feet at the base, but you can find the post outline higher up. The person is behind the rail which is tough to make out at the feet. Then there's the guy bent over. The next person with the blue jacket with white markings is on the other side of the railing and has their hands resting on the rail. Just past that person you can see one more vertical fence bar just below the red shirt.

In the first image of the guy bent over, the line points to something that is not the fence and it is confusing. But you can see that diagonal striped thing just in front of Martin in the second image of the bent guy. Beyond that you can see the back railing of the fence.
 
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WildCat said:
Actually I was confusing that with the bomb closer to the finish line. Apparently the one by the mailbox was the first explosion further up the street.
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I think you have that mixed up still. The mailbox is by the second one by the starbucks, the first one was by the finish line.
 
William Parcher said:
Let me try this again for you. Look at this photo montage here. The person putting this together is trying to draw a linkage between the man bending over, his position in relation to a black iron fence, and the position of the bomb blast in relation to that same exact iron fence.

But there is an obvious problem.

Look at the first photo in upper left showing blast site (black stain) and the slotted iron fence right next to it. The fence is labeled "Fence for reference". Now look at the photo directly below it. You see the bending guy but look at what is supposed to be that fence. It isn't that fence. The label "Same fence" is pointing to some solid black thing that has no resemblance to the fence right next to the blast stain.

Then there is the kid sitting on a guy's shoulders labeled as the boy who died. Is that true? Or is 4chan pulling the wool over Ginger's eyes?
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The fence is misidentified in the IMGUR image.

See my post above.
 
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I don't see any part of a slotted iron fence in any of those bending guy pictures. Your details don't help me find it at all. You better make your own arrows because I cannot see it.

How do you know that is the boy who died?
 
I will admit that what one thinks one sees in the images is not necessarily what is really there given the quality of the images. I.e., I could be wrong. :)
 
William Parcher said:
I don't see any part of a slotted iron fence in any of those bending guy pictures. Your details don't help me find it at all. You better make your own arrows because I cannot see it.

How do you know that is the boy who died?
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I'm going by the IMGUR ID of the kid and the fact he does look like him. Other than that, it could be someone else. I was going to see if I could find out which bomb killed the boy.

As for you can't see the railing, I can't help you. I think I was very specific as to where I see it. Why would the person with their hands on the railing have their hands up in the air like that if they weren't resting on the railing?
 
phunk said:
Here's a before and after.
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Thanks.

I think an entire section of fencing was either blown to pieces or already removed and that the bomb was on the pedestrian side of the fence line.

ETA: Look at the before and after. The second to last piece of fencing on the right has a green sign attached at the upper right corner. (small boy standing behind in the before). Compare that green signs distance to the light poll to the left and it has hardly shifted its position in the after. I don't think the fencing was moved laterally by the blast and that an actual section was destroyed.
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
I'm going by the IMGUR ID of the kid and the fact he does look like him. Other than that, it could be someone else.
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That big stocky guy holding the kid on his shoulders. That would normally be the dad. But it doesn't look like Martin's dad.

There may be a problem with you believing the various Photoshopped words on pictures and captions at 4chan.
 
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