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Exit strategy for Libya?

mike3 said:
So what's the correct and proper attitude here? How did you deduce it, and where can "Americans" acquire as much knowledge as you have so as to NOT be "stupid and dangerous" with their powerless personal opinions?
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The correct attitude with respect to a violent conflict is to discard any expectation that is remotely connected to the concept of 'fairness'.

Stop paying attention to the various Pentagon-sponsored fantasy-documentaries about how clean high-tech wars are supposed to be fought, and start learning the disgusting and less-publicized facts on the ground of real conflicts.

And it gets dangerous when political leaders and the military actually believe their own nonsense about 'proper' war.

So what do you think we should do with Iraq & Afghanistan right now? Stay in more, spend a few trillion more on it? And what to do with Libya, _right now_? Just cut and run?
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First kick your (former) political leaders in the nuts for getting you into those quagmires. They deserve it.
Iraq: Get out by the end of the year (as planned).
Libya: Get out, hope that resolves the stalemate quickly. A protracted civil war is the worst thing that can happen to a country.
Afghanistan: Get out, or get serious about pacifying the country - in other words, do it the old-fashioned way, or don't bother at all. I suggest get out, even in the best case there's little to gain there.
 
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/04/21/libya.drones/index.html?hpt=T2

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/04/20/libya.war/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/04/19/libya.war/index.html

Send in the trainers and predator drones. And I guess european soldiers can look forward to being the eventual boots on the ground.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/20/us-libya-ghoga-idUSTRE73J5ZX20110420

Fun times. Remember this isn't a war and we are in no way taking sides or intervening. Oh yeah and while we're at it "Gadaffi must go, hey hey, ho ho, Gadaffi must go". This is the ultimate goal. No one is shy about saying it. Yet no one is doing anything to expedite his removal aka death. Gadaffi isn't going to hide in a hole like Saddam. He's going to be joyriding and fistpumping in the streets. Maybe this is also one of the unstated reasons why the predators are being unleashed.
 
How does an exit strategy apply to a nation who hasn't entered yet? :confused:

Color me confused, but the only people who need an exit strat are those who have put advisors into Libya to help the "rebels" who are one side of the current civil war.

PS: whatever &$^#%#wit decided that "we are sending in Predator Drones" is a smart topic for a PR release needs to be stuffed into the trash compactor tomorrow morning.

OPSEC, morons, OPSEC! :mad:
 
It would have been better to have kept quiet about the presence of predator drones. Kadaffy may prove more reluctant to come out in the open, knowing predators are about.

Unless the object is to put psychological pressure on Kaddaffy, rather than kill him.

On a related note: shouldn't there be a home for old despotic dictators somewhere in the world? They could be lured out of their holes with promises of like-minded friends, young nurses, no responsibilities, 3 squares, and endless games of Risk against their cunning counterparts. It would be fun for them. And they would actually stand a good chance of taking over the Risk world. And there could be a heads-up "loser dies" option to settle vendettas.
 
Toontown said:
It would have been better to have kept quiet about the presence of predator drones. Kadaffy may prove more reluctant to come out in the open, knowing predators are about.

Unless the object is to put psychological pressure on Kaddaffy, rather than kill him.
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Right, like he's going to be intimidated. :p I don't see it.

On a related note: shouldn't there be a home for old despotic dictators somewhere in the world?
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I suggest Las Vegas.

That way, they can spend/squander their billions in filthy lucre in Nevada ...
 
http://townhall.com/columnists/stevechapman/2011/04/24/unwelcome_surprises_in_libya/page/full/

Unwelcome Surprises in Libya

Is it too early to declare our intervention in Libya a failure?

More than a month after we started bombing, the insurgency has suffered a string of defeats. The government in Tripoli suddenly looks as permanent as the Sahara.

The U.S., after handing off the combat responsibilities to other countries, got pulled back in last week to launch drone attacks. Britain and France are sending military advisers to try to turn the rebels into a semblance of a real army.

These forces are not only poorly trained and badly led but grossly outgunned. As a New York Times reporter on the scene noted Thursday, "Taken together, the rebels' mismatched arsenal and their inexperience and lack of discipline have made achieving the revolution's military goal extraordinarily hard." If not a failure, this effort is certainly not a success.

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The new status quo could be worse than the old one. In recent years, Gadhafi had given up his militant stance toward the West, going to great lengths to rehabilitate his regime.

He stopped his nuclear weapons program, agreed to compensate the relatives of those killed in the 1988 Lockerbie bombing and cooperated so closely with the United States that Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., called him "an important ally in the war on terrorism." … snip …

Now, however, Gadhafi could resume his old troublemaking ways. And if Libya falls into disorder, parts of it may become a lawless haven for violent Islamists. Does "Afghanistan" mean anything to you?
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Nice going, Obama.
 
The Obama doctorine seems to be working. At least that is what I was told to say. But really it seems to be working! underline seems.
 
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