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The Ceylon Tea Growers Association is registered at Companies House, company number 00238177. This would suggest he has complied with, and is complying with, all the statutes set out in The Companies Act etc. required for the incorporation of a business, which would include filing accounts and paying corporation tax.

Hmmm. Complying with statutes and paying tax. Two things he tells his followers specifically not to do?
 
And some of the "I'm immune because of my ancestry" people in the USA have been evicted:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/squatter-3-million-mansion-arrested-175234007.html

""Needless to say, she wasn't very happy about the stop and she wasn't very happy about being taken into custody," Washington said. "She sweared a lot, some obscenities used, and statements to her rights as a sovereign citizen.""

http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/story/21547781/east-memphis-squatters-part-of-larger-extremist-problem

They've been around for a long time, but just recently went higher profile:
http://www.moorishamericangov.org/
http://www.rickross.com/reference/general/general770.html
 
And some of the "I'm immune because of my ancestry" people in the USA have been evicted:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/squatter-3-million-mansion-arrested-175234007.html

""Needless to say, she wasn't very happy about the stop and she wasn't very happy about being taken into custody," Washington said. "She sweared a lot, some obscenities used, and statements to her rights as a sovereign citizen.""

http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/story/21547781/east-memphis-squatters-part-of-larger-extremist-problem

They've been around for a long time, but just recently went higher profile:
http://www.moorishamericangov.org/
http://www.rickross.com/reference/general/general770.html

The constitution of the Moorish Nation:

Act 1
–
The Grand Sheik and the Chairman of Moorish America are in
power to make law and enforce laws with the assistance of the Prophet and
the
Grand Body of Moorish America. The Assistant Grand Sheik is to
assist the Grand Sheik in all affairs if he lives according to Love, Truth,
Peace, Freedom and Justice, and it is known before the citizens of
Moorish America.



That's all there is.
 
Going by You Tube videos, they do sometimes appear to be victorious, but they never make it clear why a case was dropped and I think too often it was for a reason that was nothing to do with FOTL arguments.

Are there any FOTLs active on the forum?
 
Incorporated in 1929 but they don't seem to be involved in the Tea Trade anymore. Listed as Real Estate Management

Director Info 16 other companies.

http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/904498498

Seems like Ceylon was involved with the running of a few finance companies a well. Strange career choice for someone so vehemently anti-finance.

Also,wouldn't his background in finance, management and directorship necessarily be at odds with the whole FMOTL ethos? Eg., shouldn't he already know that money is borrowed, not created by one's signature?
 
RPMcMurphy and a sock puppet. ;)

So they are not very chatty then. You Tube is proving to be the same. There is one chatty one called CommonlyknownasDom. The rest have been abusive or have removed comments and blocked me.

It appears they do not like it when I point out the only reason why they are FOTLs is to try and avoid paying fines, taxes, licences etc and it is just a scam. :)
 
Seems like Ceylon was involved with the running of a few finance companies a well. Strange career choice for someone so vehemently anti-finance.

Also,wouldn't his background in finance, management and directorship necessarily be at odds with the whole FMOTL ethos? Eg., shouldn't he already know that money is borrowed, not created by one's signature?

He mentions in the boring, plodding, self-aggrandising FOTL "documentary" The System that he started "researching" after the recent financial downturn splattered his business against the harsh cliff-face of failure.
 
He mentions in the boring, plodding, self-aggrandising FOTL "documentary" The System that he started "researching" after the recent financial downturn splattered his business against the harsh cliff-face of failure.

...and then realised you could make a few £ out of the desperate and gullible looking for easy answers to their financial problems
 
I am getting loads of responses and abuse posting on You Tube. I have had a run of claims that paying vehicle tax and the likes finances illegal wars, so I should not pay my vehicle tax. Whilst some of that tax possibly does go to the army, I am sure there is no direct link and in any case the claim is spurious to say the least.
 
I have had a run of claims that paying vehicle tax and the likes finances illegal wars, so I should not pay my vehicle tax. Whilst some of that tax possibly does go to the army, I am sure there is no direct link and in any case the claim is spurious to say the least.
Just tell them that VAT/ Consumption taxes fund the wars and that every time they pay for anything they are helping the war effort.

That normally shuts them up for a bit.
 
I have told one that refusing to tax his camper van does not count as rebellion against illegal wars and a Stasi like tyrannical state.
 
For a long time I stayed away from the GOODF forums. I have always felt really sad for desperate people trying to use desperate cargo cult soverign remedies to get out of debts. I mean, as much as I am all about personal responsibility, I understand sometimes bad things happen: you get hurt without insurance. You have to buy a car to commute to your job because the other one breaks down. You lose your job. There are lots of ways you might end up in debts you cannot realistically pay that aren't of the "buying the 60 inch screen TV on a minimum wage job" variety.

But I have to hand it to the GOODF posters, tonight I went and looked and am just kind of shocked at the total disconnect from reality. This is probably my favorite:
http://www.getoutofdebtfree.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=46584

A GOODF success! Someone just decides to flat out stop paying their debts and now are declaring success because they aren't getting as many debt collection calls and letters as they used to be getting. What. The. Hell? You could have done that without sending all this legal gibberish paperwork. Hell, if you ignore any debt long enough they'll stop calling - its not like we have debtor prisons anymore.

I often think that in 90% of cases, like the one above, if these idiots would just follow REAL debt relief options like consumer bankruptcy their lives would be so much better. Consumer bankruptcy may stay on your credit for 10 years but all that debt is wiped off immediately, and realistically you can start getting credit again if you are responsible in as little as 3 years.

Instead I am seeing GOODF posters who have for 5, 10, or 15 years engaged in this reckless cycle of abusing consumer credit, refusing to pay their bills, then engaging in these bizarre debt relief scams to try to get out of it. These people are literally shooting themselves in the foot, and they are bringing a bad name to all the people out there who get in debt due to reasons beyond their control who try to fix it through legitimate and legal means.
 

Our Freeman benefit cheat has been in court again. This time for travelling in his conveyance with no MoT.

http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/Lat...tory-18079761-detail/story.html#axzz2NYXJdBoa

The magistrates convicted Singh of the offence, fining him £40 with a £20 victim surcharge. Asked how he would pay, he said he was "skint" and existed by begging, borrowing and stealing, and offering to pay £1 a week.
Yup. A typical freeman.
 
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He mentions in the boring, plodding, self-aggrandising FOTL "documentary" The System that he started "researching" after the recent financial downturn splattered his business against the harsh cliff-face of failure.

Even so, Ceylon has worked in finance. He has worked in business. He has been the director of several businesses.

He therefore must know that money does in fact exist, that statutes are actually law, that banks do not "create" money, that promissory notes are nothing more than glorified IOUs, and that Acceptance for Value is just pure unadulterated nonsense. Otherwise he would not have passed any "fit and proper person" test, should not have been acting as director and most certainly should not have been the director of a finance company.

Yet now he actively advises people that money does not exist, that statutes are not actually binding, that banks "create" money, that you can pay for anything with a promissory note, and if said promissory note is rejected the debt is extinguished, and that Acceptance for Value is a valid form of payment.

Is he lying?

Or has he had some form of breakdown and thinks the Matrix was actually a documentary?
 
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