euthanasia and a better society

[Bodhi Dharma Zen]

Given some horrible ways to die in hospitals (reminds me torture in the dark ages), and the possibility of having an honorable way out of this world, I would like to see that euthanasia was approved and widely spread.

I want to die in my house, with my family and loved friends, with dignity. Not making rich people who will torture my body until it no longer functions.

 

[Kumar]

Given some horrible ways to die in hospitals (reminds me torture in the dark ages), and the possibility of having an honorable way out of this world, I would like to see that euthanasia was approved and widely spread.

I want to die in my house, with my family and loved friends, with dignity. Not making rich people who will torture my body until it no longer functions.

How all these resembles with so indicated "HELL". But euthanasia can mean somewhat "self killing your own alike first children being your body cells". Better to understand, develop & practice better means alike "HEAVEN".

 

[Eos of the Eons]

I'm quite pro-euthanasia myself, but how do keep people from abusing it?

 

[geni]

I'm quite pro-euthanasia myself, but how do keep people from abusing it?

They same way you keep people from using illeagal drugs.

 

[Eos of the Eons]

Absolutely. I'm sure we could deal with it. I WANT that choice. People go on about wanting choices all the time..

 

[geni]

Absolutely. I'm sure we could deal with it. I WANT that choice. People go on about wanting choices all the time..

Sucess in war on drugs; zilch

Prediced sucess on involventry euthanasia; simular.

 

[Eos of the Eons]

Sucess in war on drugs; zilch

I think they've had an influence, on people like me. The eighties generation was less drugged imbibed than the the sixties and seventies generations. That's my personal observation though...

 

[El Greco]

I would like to see that euthanasia was approved and widely spread.

I believe that it is much more widespread than most people would think (at least in Europe). Even if it is illegal, patients, families and doctors do find a way to apply it when the patient wants it. You will always find people willing to help in any oncologic hospital. Society is once more way ahead of law (and church, of course). I'm pretty sure that if I ever reach a point that I'd want it for myself and am in position to consent, I will certainly find a way of doing it.

 

[Dr. Imago]

I want to die in my house, with my family and loved friends, with dignity. Not making rich people who will torture my body until it no longer functions.

They already allow this. It's called hospice. Furthermore, everyone is encouraged to complete a "living will" and "advanced directives" that clearly spell out what to do in the case you are incapacitated and unable to make decisions for yourself anymore. So, scenarios as you describe them and intimate, namely being kept alive in a hospital against your will, don't really happen... at least anymore. But, if you don't have advanced directives, what often happens is that you suffer a catastrophic illness (such as a massive stroke that takes out 80-90% of your brain) and you are left in a persistent vegetative state with your next-of-kin fighting (often selfishly) over what to do with you. Sometimes, there's even monetary gain (e.g., your family can't collect your social security checks for you if you're dead). Trust me, I've seen it.

The separate question about euthanasia has more to do about doctor-assisted suicide, when you want to end your life before you've technically reached the end of it. For example, if you have a terminal condition and want to "off" yourself while you're still happy, healthy, and not in pain. Much more difficult to argue...

Either way, please - everyone - have a living will and advanced directives. Now is the best time to do it. You can always change and/or revoke it at any time. It makes everyone's life easier (from the healthcare team to your surviving family).

-TT

 

[Kumar]

Does modern lifestyle, environment & advancement encourage this type of thinking as euthanasia? Are we loosing fear to die?

 

[Donks]

Does modern lifestyle, environment & advancement encourage this type of thinking as euthanasia?

I would say yes, for the simple reason that modern medicine can keep people alive like at no time in the past. Everyone still dies, but we can push death back longer. This means that people suffering from diseases or injuries that would have died much sooner without modern medicine can continue to live. Some decide they don't actually want to, that they would rather die. Homeopaths don't have to worry about it, though. Unless they turn to "evil allopathy" when actually sick.

Are we loosing fear to die?

Don't you believe in god or an afterlife?

 

[Kumar]

Are we then living in excess than the natural averages & so loosing 'fear to die'? Are we attuned & preconvinced that 'we can be positively cured for any problem--so loosing 'fear to die'? Whether natural 'fear to die' is good or bad for us?

 

[Donks]

Are we then living in excess than the natural averages & so loosing 'fear to die'?

Living in excess? If I can go on living indefinetly with good quality of life I don't see me reaching that point for a few millenia.

Are we attuned that 'we can be positively cure for any proble--so loosing 'fear to die'?

Who thinks that? I sure don't.

Whether 'fear to die' is good or bad for us?

Fear of death helps me cross the street safely.

 

[Jas]

As mentioned above, I think that most 'living will' directives provide clarity in most situations, and it's one's responsibility to ensure that they have one filled out.

As far a debilitating illness, however, I think it's a matter of equal rights for the handicapped. As an able bodied person, I have the ability, and right, to end my own life as I see fit (rightly or wrongly as the case may be). I think that denying someone assisted suicide is to discriminate against the disabled (Sue Rodriguez being a case in point).

 

[Kumar]

Bodhi Dharma Zen,

"Death in any form without "salvation"(free from all bondages) by humans AND progress towards it by others can be a "SIN" or punishment/effects of previous "bad Karmas"-- can't be peaceful so should never be desirable"

 

[Eos of the Eons]

Bad Karma can kiss my Toooshie and my unpedicured Pieds.
Peace after death is inevitable no matter what the circumstances of death. Your brain dies. You are left with nothing.

 

[Kumar]

Bad Karma can kiss my Toooshie and my unpedicured Pieds.
Peace after death is inevitable no matter what the circumstances of death. Your brain dies. You are left with nothing.

Peaceful at death. Moreover there can be 'accompnied energy emissions in one line' by all our molecules which may represent us in energetic forms. There can also be some molecular remains & possible interactions of that emitted energies with them. If no bondage/company--then it is ok.

 

[Donks]

Peaceful at death. Moreover there can be 'accompnied energy emissions in one line' by all our molecules which may represent us in energetic forms. There can also be some molecular remains & possible interactions of that emitted energies with them. If no bondage/company--then it is ok.

Do you just make this **** up on the spot or do you have a prepared set of responses?

 

[Dr. Imago]

Peaceful at death. Moreover there can be 'accompnied energy emissions in one line' by all our molecules which may represent us in energetic forms. There can also be some molecular remains & possible interactions of that emitted energies with them. If no bondage/company--then it is ok.

I see you and your Crypto-Logicâ„¢ are still well at work.

-TT

 

[Kumar]

I see you and your Crypto-Logicâ„¢ are still well at work.

-TT

When cloning into a healthy body cn be possible just by one cell/DNA--why we need to think negatively till this level is maintained--scientifically.