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Split Thread Epstein murdered

I am unsure a playboy, pimp, trafficker, whatever such as Epstein would have a "client list".

A list of contacts, yes certainly, but not a smoking gun database of who had sex with underage girls.

The two concepts seem used interchangeably, which diminishes people's arguments.
This ^.

Such list would be encrypted, and use a few coded words for each "client". It would only have meaning to Epstein, and maybe Maxwell...Or he just wrote the names down in a black book, old-school. At this point if it ever existed it's gone now.

But let's take this whole thing further. Suppose Bondi announced indictments instead, and the list is published online. First, not everyone on the list had sex, not everyone on the list had sex with underage people, not everyone who engaged in sex did so without consent. So those people, depending on the fallout, and turn around and sue the DoJ for slander, and likely win, but their lives & reputations are damaged. Then the DoJ has to find victims willing to testify in court, and the DoJ has to prove that the defendants knew these people were underage. Unless videos survived the government only has hearsay. So after all the shouting there's a good chance no one gets convicted, or convicted in any meaningful way.

IMO, this is more about public voyeurism into the "wicked ways" of the political elite than it is justice for victims.
 
yeah but it was bondi and the rest of the trump admin who was going on and on about this list and all the evidence they were going to release. then they said there actually wasn't any, there's this prison video with a missing minute right in the middle of when everything happened, and that the press needs to stop asking about it.

so there's a bunch of liars that gassed this whole thing up, jeffery epstein just happens to be best friends for a decade with the president who's name is all over the case, then told you to drop it and stop asking about the thing they couldn't stop talking about a few weeks ago. that's ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ weird
 
It is just really bad PR to not even throw a little bone to the Epstein crowd and instead pretend that there never were any.
It strongly suggests that there are some threads that might unravel in a very problematic way.
 
This ^.

Such list would be encrypted, and use a few coded words for each "client". It would only have meaning to Epstein, and maybe Maxwell...Or he just wrote the names down in a black book, old-school. At this point if it ever existed it's gone now.

But let's take this whole thing further. Suppose Bondi announced indictments instead, and the list is published online. First, not everyone on the list had sex, not everyone on the list had sex with underage people, not everyone who engaged in sex did so without consent. So those people, depending on the fallout, and turn around and sue the DoJ for slander, and likely win, but their lives & reputations are damaged. Then the DoJ has to find victims willing to testify in court, and the DoJ has to prove that the defendants knew these people were underage. Unless videos survived the government only has hearsay. So after all the shouting there's a good chance no one gets convicted, or convicted in any meaningful way.

IMO, this is more about public voyeurism into the "wicked ways" of the political elite than it is justice for victims.

If only Maxwell were available to be asked about this.
 
Didn't they find evidence of video recording devices in bathrooms and bedrooms on Epstein's properties? If so, there is a lot more than a list of names out there.
 
yeah but it was bondi and the rest of the trump admin who was going on and on about this list and all the evidence they were going to release. then they said there actually wasn't any, there's this prison video with a missing minute right in the middle of when everything happened, and that the press needs to stop asking about it.

so there's a bunch of liars that gassed this whole thing up, jeffery epstein just happens to be best friends for a decade with the president who's name is all over the case, then told you to drop it and stop asking about the thing they couldn't stop talking about a few weeks ago. that's ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ weird
It's weird in the sense that Trump is pretty consistently weird. So it's also pretty typical of Trump: A lot of bluster about what he's going to do and how it's going to play out, and then reverting to politics as usual when it turns out none of that works the way he thinks it does. Talk is cheap, after all, and what is Trump if not cheap? Look past what he says, and the actual outcome is the exact same outcome as the preceding administration.
 
i think promising to break the case wide open then acting like the press is insane for asking about it is too big of a difference to call their behavior the same.
That's how Trump always is: Lots of bluster, and behind it mostly politics as usual.

I'm not saying the behavior is the same. I'm saying the outcome is the same.
 
That's how Trump always is: Lots of bluster, and behind it mostly politics as usual.

I'm not saying the behavior is the same. I'm saying the outcome is the same.

imo trump is pretty far from politics as usual and certainly many of his lies are self serving beyond politics

but you’re right neither admin had revealed the members of the underage sex ring.
 
Didn't they find evidence of video recording devices in bathrooms and bedrooms on Epstein's properties? If so, there is a lot more than a list of names out there.
I want to see the full FBI report on the entire investigation. In particular the documents about the search of his Miami and New York homes, and everything they found on his island. I want to see pictures and video from those searches.
 
I want to see the full FBI report on the entire investigation. In particular the documents about the search of his Miami and New York homes, and everything they found on his island. I want to see pictures and video from those searches.
Pretty sure the video surveillance equipment in his Manhattan property is well established. Not sure about Miami. And his island (strictly memory here), I thought took them longer to get warrants for and was believed to have been scrubbed by others in advance?
 
If there were such documents, the Biden administration would have publicized them, if for no other reason than to confound and indict the right wing accomplices.

Why didn't the Biden administration do its job?
Hunter, duh!
 
Didn't they find evidence of video recording devices in bathrooms and bedrooms on Epstein's properties? If so, there is a lot more than a list of names out there.
We've seen the photo of Prince (edit) Andrew dancing with Virginia Guiffre(?) and the video of Trump at Epstein's party.

Things have gotten out.
 
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