End Times Bible prophecy for beginners

[Lord Emsworth]

Simple question for you. Why not answer?

Based on all this obsessing with Lucifer, I would concluded that the Bible must've been written in Latin. OTOH, there is all this numerology stuff that only works in English.

Maybe the Old Testament was written in Latin, and the New Testament in English?

 

[Eschat]

Why so full of wrath?

Who me, not at all. I already forgive you, but if I run into a wall because I was not paying attention it still has a price for not paying attention. In the spirit it can be forgiven instantly, but the price and the fallout usually has to be worked out in the natural.

Same is true for warnings. That which is spoken in ignorance there much less punishment or correction. For those who know better well when you run the red light you know then there is a chance you will hit something that will cost you something. So it depends on who you are from God's point of view how he will judge your statement even if he forgives you. Did you do it in ignorance, arrogance or just stupidity. It's all forgivable if you ask, but even when forgiven sometimes there is a price to be worked out. My hope is there is nothing for you to have to work out. But I'm not the boss about those things.

 

[tsig]

It seems you all have been busy since my last visit. Moderator too. You all seem to think I am shocked by some of your responses. Nope, seen them read them all before.

If you had looked more closely at the websites I linked you would have seen the free software that calculates for all 443,556 possible whole number systems for 666. Here is the info on that.

http://sites.google.com/site/pointprophetic/uncover-exe-the-program


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWMrIHwgKxU

Or you would have found the calculation advice page that would have discussed a few things mentioned so arrogantly here while I was gone.

http://sites.google.com/site/pointprophetic/advice

As far as hell is concerned there is no eternal torment. 1,000 years in prison, and punishment for the worst, then the lake of fire which is the DOD soul deletion department of Jesus. But not external torment. It is external death and punishment beforehand.

That twisting of Scriptures is from the Catholics and most others. Jesus Christ is not going to torment for eternity someone who rejects him for 30-70 years of sins. God is just, not unjust. Man's understanding of God is limited at best even when they believe and mean well. But false Christianity or hardcore non believers understanding of Jesus is like a 4 year trying to fly a F-18 hornet. Thank God the 4 year old never has a chance of getting that jet in the air otherwise he or she would only crash.

So as you sit here mocking and trying to fly, you would be better off learning more about what you think you know you're talking about first. From my point of view you are all still in pre-school. Really, I'm not trying to make you angry, but thats the truth. Thank God you don't have to be smart to make it to heaven.

Why learn more when you don't have to be smart to get to heaven. In fact, it would seem to be counterproductive.

 

[Craig4]

Maybe you should have the guts to proclaim who your savior is. His name is Jesus Christ, King of Kings and Lord of Lords. My Lord and savior.

No he's not. He's a very naughty boy.

 

[yy2bggggs]

Your type of Christianity makes Lucifer look good. Look at what the Catholic Priests do to their altar boys. Catholics are pawns of Lucifer, they don't even know that the Catholic Church was raised up by fallen angels.

He said nothing about catholicism.

Most of you reading think that the Catholic church is Christian. Not at all, neither is the Mormons, Jehovah witnesses and a bunch of others.

He said nothing about Mormons, Catholics, or Jehovah's witnesses.

These are all churches that Lucifer raised up to confuse you, distract you, or keep you from the real truth of Jesus Christ. Some of the people inside these corrupt churches mean well but they are duped nevertheless.

You're now having a debate with your own fantasy evil.

Skeptics, especially non-christian ones, are not compelled to accept your arbitrary division of Christianity into the modern-esoteric-protestant-jack-chick-style-agrees-with-eschat version, and the grand-conspiracy-of-evil-everything-else-designed-by-lucifer-to-trick-you version. We're more likely to interpret such division as an emotional trick by the MEPJCSAWE form of Christianity to keep MEPJCSAWE in the fold by making them paranoid about every thought that would prevent one from being a MEPJCSAWE.

If you're simply wanting to scare yourself to continue to believe what you already do, you need not waste our time with it. If you want to convince us to believe it as well, you're going to need something a bit more substantial than this.

 

[Eschat]

I have the guts to say that I don't need a savior.


What or whom do you need saving from?

You will change your mind in the near future, you will beg for a savior like a dog begs for scraps

 

[Craig4]

The real world? See the real world? You need your spiritual eyes turned on for that. Then you would see the millions of cell phone frequencies moving through the air and through your body everyday and the damage they are doing to you. You would see the quarks from space moving through the earth like it was not there. It would sort of like being Neo from the Matrix, then you would see some of the real world as it really is.

Here is something for you.

Some anagrams for Television

I Set Evil On
Lie Vote Sin

http://wordsmith.org/anagram/

Ooooookay, everyone just smile and nod and back away from the crazy person slowly.

 

[yy2bggggs]

You will change your mind in the near future, you will beg for a savior like a dog begs for scraps

This is a passive aggressive threat.

We need reason to believe, not attempts to emotionally blackmail. The latter is bankrupt of convincing power--far from convincing us that we should buy into your beliefs, it calls into question whether or not your beliefs are justified.

 

[John Jones]

Who me, not at all. I already forgive you,

You seem wrathful to me.

I never wanted you to forgive me, BTW.

 

[tsig]

I have the guts to say that I don't need a savior.


What or whom do you need saving from?

His/her fear of living.

 

[John Jones]

You will change your mind in the near future, you will beg for a savior like a dog begs for scraps

Anticipated schadenfreude is not a becoming trait.

 

[tsig]

Did you not just feel immensely superior to Eschat with that post?

Did you not just feel immensely superior to Sun Countess with that post?

 

[Eschat]

He said nothing about catholicism.

He said nothing about Mormons, Catholics, or Jehovah's witnesses.

You're now having a debate with your own fantasy evil.

Skeptics, especially non-christian ones, are not compelled to accept your arbitrary division of Christianity into the modern-esoteric-protestant-jack-chick-style-agrees-with-eschat version, and the grand-conspiracy-of-evil-everything-else-designed-by-lucifer-to-trick-you version. We're more likely to interpret such division as an emotional trick by the MEPJCSAWE form of Christianity to keep MEPJCSAWE in the fold by making them paranoid about every thought that would prevent one from being a MEPJCSAWE.

If you're simply wanting to scare yourself to continue to believe what you already do, you need not waste our time with it. If you want to convince us to believe it as well, you're going to need something a bit more substantial than this.

Trying to scare you? Gee oh my gosh, if I wanted to scare you I would just send you to Glenn Beck. Are you serious, no you are not.

If you were serious you would be better read on all the secular points of view on why we need to do something fast to save humanity from themselves.

The non believing world of all types have been screaming it from their roof tops for 30 years and for the last 10 years like they are preachers in a fire and brimstone church.

If you want to be scared go listen to the people that agree with you about no God. They will scare the crap out of you with all their good ideas.

Start with mandatory depopulation.

 

[Sun Countess]

You will change your mind in the near future, you will beg for a savior like a dog begs for scraps

Um, no.

I'll ask you again, What or whom do you need saving from?

 

[tsig]

Lucifer was cast down from heaven for a thought. That was the only sin Lucifer committed up until that time. Lucifer never spoke it allowed. The sin is that Lucifer wanted to receive worship and be like the Most High.

This is the thought Lucifer had that he never spoke. God knew the thought and cast him down from his position, but not from heaven. To this day Lucifer is still not cast out of heaven, just his position of authority he once had.

God Almighty cast Lucifer down from his position for the thoughts Lucifer had. When one third of the angelic host found out that Lucifer was cast down from his position of authority for only thoughts, they rebelled against God and choose Lucifer over God their creator.

If one third of gods' special creatures turned against him what does that say about god?

 

[dlorde]

God Almighty cast Lucifer down from his position for the thoughts Lucifer had. When one third of the angelic host found out that Lucifer was cast down from his position of authority for only thoughts, they rebelled against God and choose Lucifer over God their creator.

This was the first collective action by the workers to withdraw their labour in protest at management policies. This makes Lucifer the father and patron saint of all union reps. Just imagine the rebel third of angels gathered in a picket line with a smoking brazier outside the Pearly Gates waving placards and shouting "What do we want? Freedom of thought! When do we want it? As soon as practically feasible!", and jeering "Scab, scab, scab!" at the other angels going in to work.

 

[Sun Countess]

His/her fear of living.

Yeah, I'm thinking it's something to do with reality. I guess if you don't have the guts to do whatever you need to make your real life worth living, you'd rather spend your time in fantasyland, where there's all kinds of smiting and you can think proclaim all those other people your enemies and look forward to their demise. Shouldn't World of Warcraft provide some sort of outlet?

 

[Johny2x4]

I feel dumber after reading this thread. And also scared, that are sadists in this world.

 

[tsig]

You will change your mind in the near future, you will beg for a savior like a dog begs for scraps

Saviour = table scraps!

 

[yy2bggggs]

If you're simply wanting to scare yourself to continue to believe what you already do, you need not waste our time with it. If you want to convince us to believe it as well, you're going to need something a bit more substantial than this.

Trying to scare you?

No, trying to scare you. And yes, I am serious. You can't have a critical thought without sequestering it as a doubt planted there by Lucifer--for fear that it is a thought planted there by Lucifer to trick you.

Not until post #146 do I accuse you of trying to scare someone else.

The non believing world of all types have been screaming it from their roof tops for 30 years and for the last 10 years like they are preachers in a fire and brimstone church.

You're being too abstract to address here.

However, I can respond in kind to your abstraction. The same rules apply to the non believing world. We need reasons to believe, not just fearmongering. Those who talk about global warming show models, for example. Those who talk about the end of the Mayan calendar are not showing anything based on reason.

You are basically telling us the Mayan calendar is ending. Only it's not Mayan, it's Christian. And the calendar is a bit fuzzier, but the signs are there. And it's just as not based on the bible and based instead on modern mythos, as the Mayan calendar mythos is.

I'm just as justified in fearing the Antichrist as I am fearing December 2012.

ETA: I'm slightly troubled by your thinking that if I say "wanting to scare yourself", you think I'm saying that you're trying to scare me. This could be an honest mistake, but I'm going to watch for signs that you have difficulty relating to other people in general.