End Times Bible prophecy for beginners

[This Guy]

Trying to scare you? Gee oh my gosh, if I wanted to scare you I would just send you to Glenn Beck. Are you serious, no you are not.

If you were serious you would be better read on all the secular points of view on why we need to do something fast to save humanity from themselves.

The non believing world of all types have been screaming it from their roof tops for 30 years and for the last 10 years like they are preachers in a fire and brimstone church.

If you want to be scared go listen to the people that agree with you about no God. They will scare the crap out of you with all their good ideas.

Start with mandatory depopulation.

Would it be possible to see some evidence for these claims. You've made them twice, but I've missed, or you haven't provided, any evidence to back them up.

 

[Halfcentaur]

Halfcentaur, what should be done with "his kind"?

Did you know that, in "his superstition" at the end, it's his kind that is gone and out of the picture (so it should then be your ideal) and it is your kind that is unrestrained in its "ironic" "hysteria"?

Stop trying so hard. I was making an observation, not suggesting action. And I had a pinch of low blood sugar, which made me more offended than usual from his ignorant threats of hellfire. Mostly it's just silly. I was wrong to poke the thing with a stick.

I am intimately well aware of the Christian religion and what it believes. I was raised as one, I was one, my family has been for generations.

And what exactly is my kind that is so hysterical? You keep painting yourself in the light of some open minded person who strives to be fair and balanced. Yet you're caught up challenging people in a thread some zealot made to tell us all we're going to burn in hell. Do you really think this is the sort of battle worth choosing?

 

[Halfcentaur]

What then is "worship"? How do you define this "worship" that you so object to?

Does it mean kneel down and bow in the right direction 978,154 times? Does it mean crossing yourself and "praying the Rosary" ad nauseam, ad infinitum? Or does it mean something more like the highest of reverence and respect and love?

In your opinion, from your statement above, what kind of God is worthy of worship?

Do you argue for all mythologies and religions, or just the ones you consider worth possibly believing?

 

[dafydd]

Sorry, Lucifer is in the cancer department. Man's pollution is the real truth about cancer and many others.

If you want to accuse God you should say why don't you stop evil and Lucifer from killing us.

God would say, I did at the cross but the world said no anyway. So I will let it continue until I have no choice but to stop it to prevent the extinction of man in the flesh.


You think I'm trying to convince you? Are you kidding I'm making sure you follow you, until you are done. Understand? I doubt it. God has consigned all to disobedience that he might show mercy to all

Yes,yes. There,there. Now go and have a nice lie down.

 

[John Jones]

Jesus likes prostitute, Mary Magellan was Jesus' best friend. So America like Mary Magellan who come home to Jesus once she is sick and tired of being hooker looking for loans and handouts from countries like China, Japan and all the rest. Doing their bidding like a hooker rather than taking care of the American people.

Great great great grandma of Ferdinand Magellan, no doubt.

 

[dafydd]

That search is simple. Speak to the air and say will the real God reveal himself to me and show me the truth. That's it, that all it takes to put it in God's court. Some of you have already done that. If you have then it is still in God's court and you will hear from him.

I just had a chat with the air and bugger all happened. Have you thought about getting professional help?

 

[dafydd]

Hey look at it this way. If you're wrong, then now you know what to do when these things happen. That is the purpose of prophecy in the first place. So you have a better chance than most because unlike many others I have told you the truth and yes I like naked prostitutes just like Jesus does.

That used to be a secret once. Oh well, slip of the tongue.

PSALMS 22: written by King David

This Psalm is part of the Dead Sea Scrolls, also know as the Jewish Torah. The Jewish Torah is the Christian Old Testament

Psalms 22 was written by the Jewish King David about 900 - 960 years before Jesus Christ was born. You will usually see noted before each Psalm in the Bible where its states it was written by David. When Jesus died on the cross 900 years after David wrote this Psalm, Jesus was fulfilling this scripture. This is what is called a messianic prophecy of the old testament. (Torah) Some of the Jews recognized Jesus fulfilled it after Jesus was hung on the cross but most of the Jews during this time did not realize what they had done. Keep in mind the new testament would not be written by Christians of the way for about another 1,000 years.

One of the Jewish arguments against the Psalms 22 messianic prophecy is this, they say when general Titus destroyed the Jewish temple of 70 AD all original copies of the TORAH were destroyed with it. Then as Christianity grew over the years some of the Jews eventually accused Christians as Christianizing the copies of the old testament Torah that were made afterwords. Christians were accused of making David’s Psalms 22 look and point to Jesus, some even accusing that Christians changed the whole psalm.

Then along comes the Dead Sea Scrolls findings, the oldest known copy of the Torah that predated Jesus’ birth by a few hundred years. The Jewish Essences were attacked by their Jewish brethren due to doctrinal differences that boiled over into hatred and murder. Before the last of the Essences were killed they were able to save a complete copy of the Torah.

That is what the Dead Sea Scrolls are if you were unaware. They are copy of the JEWISH TORAH, (OLD TESTAMENT) written hundreds of years before the birth of Jesus and almost 1,000 before the new testament was written.

Guess what Psalms 22 says in the Dead Sea Scroll? My God, My God why have you forsaken me.

If you read all of Psalms 22 you see were it also states, “Stand in awe of him all you sons of Israel, sons of Jacob. Stand in Awe of who? The one who was killed in Psalms 22 as written by King David.

Psalms: Chapter 22

1 My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? why are you so far from helping me, and from the words of my groaning?
2 O my God, I cry in the day time, but you hear me not; and in the night season, I am not silent.
3 But you art holy, O thou that inhabits the praises of Israel.
4 Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and you did deliver them.
5 They cried unto you, and were delivered: they trusted in you and were not forsaken.
6 But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people.
7 All they that see me laugh and scorn me: they shoot out the lip, they shake their head, saying,
8 He trusted on the LORD that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him.
9 But you are he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother’s breasts.
10 I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother’s belly.
11 Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help.
12 Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round.
13 They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion.
14 I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels.
15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaves to my jaws; and you have brought me into the dust of death.
16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have surrounded me: they have pierced my hands and my feet. 17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my garment.
19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
21 Save me from the lion’s mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.
22 I will declare thy name unto my brethren: in the midst of the congregation will I praise thee.
23 You that fear the LORD, praise him; all ye the seed of Jacob, glorify him; and fear him, all you the seed of Israel.
24 For he has not despised nor hated the affliction of the afflicted; neither hath he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard.
25 My praise shall be of you in the great congregation: I will pay my vows before them that fear him.
26 The meek shall eat and be satisfied: they shall praise the LORD that seek him: your heart shall live for ever.
27 All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.
28 For the kingdom is the Lord’s: and he is the governor among the nations.
29 All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul.
30 A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.
31 They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this.

Why are you quoting a work of fiction?

 

[dafydd]

Great great great grandma of Ferdinand Magellan, no doubt.

And he thinks that quarks fly through space,yet he expects us to take him seriously. Still no date from him about the demise of the world.

 

[John Jones]

I know that when John wrote Revelation, he had no idea that Twizzlers or Nibs would someday exist. So what?

Reductio ad absurdum fallacy

 

[yy2bggggs]

America is ...

It's much more likely that you're simply fantasizing. None of your methods of testing your conclusions are legitimate--they're all self supporting. They are the tools of people who fool themselves.

Jesus loves naked hookers.

I'm still contemplating what this indicates about your state of mind.

Just don't ignore the fact that you must make your own search for God.

Why? Why, if there is a god, must we find him? There's nothing about the universe to suggest that if it has a creator, the creator is interested in us finding him for any reason.

You can blame whoever you want, but from God's point of view if you do not seek him yourself regardless of all the crap you find in organized religion you are without excuse.

Excuse for what? You make it sound as if God would be mad if we don't believe he exists.

That search is simple. Speak to the air and say will the real God reveal himself to me and show me the truth.

Sounds magical. Why couldn't God simply reveal himself to me without my doing this? Do I need to stand in a circle and draw a cross, and light candles?

How come God cannot reveal himself the same way every other truth is revealed through me--through proper rational inquiry?

 

[John Jones]

America is Mystery Babylon. That is why it is a mystery to American Christians, who don't understand why of all nations on earth America is not mentioned in the Bible anywhere.

The USA, Canada, Mexico, and Brazil are not mentioned anywhere in the Bible, nor are any other countries in the Americas. Neither is China, but don't let that get in the way of a good rant.

 

[John Jones]

What then is "worship"? How do you define this "worship" that you so object to?

Does it mean kneel down and bow in the right direction 978,154 times? Does it mean crossing yourself and "praying the Rosary" ad nauseam, ad infinitum? Or does it mean something more like the highest of reverence and respect and love?

In your opinion, from your statement above, what kind of God is worthy of worship?

Ooh! Ooh! Pick Me!

<stands up>

A benevolent one that can be shown to exist?

<Takes seat>

 

[Ladewig]

Trying to scare you? Gee oh my gosh, if I wanted to scare you I would just send you to Glenn Beck. Are you serious, no you are not.

If you were serious you would be better read on all the secular points of view on why we need to do something fast to save humanity from themselves.

The non believing world of all types have been screaming it from their roof tops for 30 years and for the last 10 years like they are preachers in a fire and brimstone church.

This attitude is very common in believers. If a scientist says evolution has taken place, the fundamentalists say "don't listen to him, he doesn't know anything," but if that same scientists says, the world is going to end in 30 years, then the fundamentalists say "listen to what he says - it is proof of the nearness of God's plan."

If you want to be scared go listen to the people that agree with you about no God. They will scare the crap out of you with all their good ideas.

Start with mandatory depopulation.

Really!? There are atheists who want to engage in mandatory depopulation? Can you give a citation for that?

 

[John Jones]

This attitude is very common in believers. If a scientist says evolution has taken place, the fundamentalists say "don't listen to him, he doesn't know anything," but if that same scientists says, the world is going to end in 30 years, then the fundamentalists say "listen to what he says - it is proof of the nearness of God's plan."



Really!? There are atheists who want to engage in mandatory depopulation? Can you give a citation for that?

I already asked him and he ignored my question.

 

[Lucian]

twizzlers aren't a major player of the modern world stage.

Blasphemer!

 

[yy2bggggs]

Sorry, Lucifer is in the cancer department. Man's pollution is the real truth about cancer and many others.

Eschat:
There's no "cancer department". Your numerology is utterly, completely meaningless. You have a function f that can accept english words x and produce a number from them. Given this, there's some set S such that f(S)=444.

Guess what. There are a lot of English words in that set. There are so many, that you can pick out your "good" ones that belong to the set. But there are also "bad" ones that belong to the set. Not mentioned were tons of "neutral" ones.

The only numerological department here is the 444 department. The fact that you can take a huge word list and pick out "good" terms, and infer an association is not mathematically impressive in the least.

You're rationalizing.

If all of your beliefs are based on like thinking, your entire belief base is questionable.

You think I'm trying to convince you?

Absolutely. You're just being passive aggressive about it. The fact that you bother to post it at all is partial evidence of this. Much greater is your exact words that you post:

It is also important you remember that everything calculated on this page was calculated by same numeric alphabet key, the one shown directly below. Why this system was chosen above other numeric systems is answered in the recommended reading list, but before you focus on those questions or arguments focus on the astronomical odds of the word totals shown below occurring by only one system, the same system.

But since you're being passive aggressive, you get to deny that you're trying to convince us. And that means you get to avoid defending it.

I'm destroying your claim that there are any astronomical odds here. There aren't. This is simply a way to generate really huge word list sets, out of which you're cherry picking good ones in some sets and bad ones in others.

This is an example of irrational thinking, is all. But the goal of this website you're posting on is to promote rational thinking.

 

[dafydd]

I already asked him and he ignored my question.

And mine about the date of the end of the world. Maybe he's off to church for another brainwashing session.

 

[MatildaGage]

If the Bible is true, then a man who is also called Antichrist in the Bible has to rise....

K. Lots of religions have end times doctrine. What proof do you have that yours is better or more accurate?

 

[dafydd]

K. Lots of religions have end times doctrine. What proof do you have that yours is better or more accurate?

Because he says so. Isn't that enough for you?

 

[JudeBrando]

Chuck Missler on Coast To Coast radio tonight.

"Bible Prophecy and End Times"

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2011/04/03

Chuck Missler received a Congressional appointment to the U.S. Naval Academy and then served in the U.S. Air Force. After leaving active duty, he became Branch Chief of the Department of Guided Missiles at Lowry Air Force Base. Chuck has earned a Masters Degree in engineering from UCLA and a Ph.D. from Louisiana Baptist University. Chuck has worked as a systems engineer at TRW, followed by a Senior Analyst position serving both the intelligence community and the Department of Defense.

He also worked for the Ford Motor Company where he established the first international industrial computer network. He has served as a consultant to the Board of Directors of Rockwell International for corporate acquisitions and has also participated in over 100 business ventures as a principal, strategic advisor, or turnaround specialist. During the past 30 years, Chuck has also served on the Board of Directors of over a dozen public companies, and was Chairman and CEO of six of them. In addition, Chuck is the author of over sixty publications, including Learn the Bible in 24 Hours, Cosmic Codes - Hidden Messages From the Edge of Eternity, and "Alien Encounters.