Elizabeth Warren Ancestry Thread

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Belz... said:
You wha?

...so who said you supported Trump, then?

Gee, sorry, dude. But you've got me confused here.
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There really needs to be a... format or a punctuation mark or something that denotes "I'm bouncing off / expanding on your thread" vice "Directly responding to it" for internet discussions.

I get how it could have read as a direct rebuttal, not my intent. Sorry.
 
JoeMorgue said:
There really needs to be a... format or a punctuation mark or something that denotes "I'm bouncing off / expanding on your thread" vice "Directly responding to it" for internet discussions.

I get how it could have read as a direct rebuttal, not my intent. Sorry.
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Riffing? Maybe a guitar?
 
JoeMorgue said:
This ain't that hard.

Democrats imagine how you would feel if you opened a Soul Food cookbook right now and saw a recipe from Donald Trump in it? Imagine how okay you would be with it. Imagine how little or big of a deal you feel it is.

That's how you should feel now.
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Well, I would be cold from the floor after I fell onto it in fits of laughter at the idea of Trump being able to even boil water, let alone cook.

Otherwise? Really would not care. Cookbooks are ludicrous and sometimes literally a dime a dozen. There’s thousands printed each year and few have any meaning or impact.
 
Anyone else think it's odd Warren would insist on her ethnicity being changed from white to listed as NA at two universities, then later in life continuing to list herself as white? Did her ethnicity change during that time, then change back?
 
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Belz... said:
So we do not, in fact, count. Pick a side, dammit! :rolleyes:
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When we kids acted cranky, my mother used to say, "Did you get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning?" I never quite understood what that meant since my bed was against the wall, but I knew what she meant when she said it. Did you get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning?
 
River said:
Anyone else think it's odd Warren would insist on her ethnicity being changed from white to listed as NA at two universities, then later in life continuing to list herself as white? Did her ethnicity change during that time, then change back?
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Nevertheless, she insisted...
 
River said:
Anyone else think it's odd Warren would insist on her ethnicity being changed from white to listed as NA at two universities, then later in life continuing to list herself as white? Did her ethnicity change during that time, then change back?
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Not really. At different ages, you may be more or less enthusiastic about your ancestry.
 
River said:
Anyone else think it's odd Warren would insist on her ethnicity being changed from white to listed as NA at two universities, then later in life continuing to list herself as white? Did her ethnicity change during that time, then change back?
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Anyone think its odd that you are wringing your hands over this as opposed to a Congressman actually faking a Native American minority status, joining a fake tribe, and securing multi-million dollar contracts meant for minority owned businesses?
 
JoeMorgue said:
This ain't that hard.

Democrats imagine how you would feel if you opened a Soul Food cookbook right now and saw a recipe from Donald Trump in it. Imagine how okay you would be with it. Imagine how little or big of a deal you feel it is.

That's how you should feel now. Or you can dig into defending the tribe and give me special pleadings why it would be different. I think I'll probably get more of the latter.
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Perhaps if you weren't trying to push "both sides bád" so much you might notice the flaws in your argument.
Nobody is honestly bothered by a person with NA ancestry submitting a recipe to a compilation of recipes by NA families. Warren has NA Ancestry as shown by DNA results and as passed down through her family lore.

Honestly pretending that a recipe in a user submitted recipe compilation is any sort of statement on anything rather demonstrates how little those using it to push their point actually have.
 
River said:
Anyone else think it's odd Warren would insist on her ethnicity being changed from white to listed as NA at two universities, then later in life continuing to list herself as white? Did her ethnicity change during that time, then change back?
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No, that doesn't seem rare to me or significant.
 
wareyin said:
Perhaps if you weren't trying to push "both sides bád" so much you might notice the flaws in your argument.
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Yep. That's our choices. One side is perfectly saintly and the other side cartoonishily evil or both sides are equally bad. Those are the only two valid choices. And yet again, two and only two sides exist in this dojo.

It is... like satirically funny how everybody is just unable to comprehend of any argument, statement, criticism, or... anything outside of this.

I didn't say both sides are bad. I didn't say ANYTHING about a side.

I said that I thought what one person did was a little problematic. Everybody else is extrapolating these flowcharts so they know which side to award The Point to.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Yep. That's our choices. One side is perfectly saintly and the other side cartoonishily evil or both sides are equally bad. Those are the only two valid choices. And yet again, two and only two sides exist in this dojo.

It is... like satirically funny how everybody is just unable to comprehend of any argument, statement, criticism, or... anything outside of this.

I didn't say both sides are bad. I didn't say ANYTHING about a side.

I said that I thought what one person did was a little problematic. Everybody else is extrapolating these flowcharts so they know which side to award The Point to.
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Way to miss the point. I guess I can't award it to you.

Everything you have thought about Warren's actions has been based off the Republican claims about her actions. To stick with the cookbook: it was not and was never intended to be authentic Native American recipes, nor a statement on Native American tribal membership. But Republicans have claimed it was, and you bought their claims. Now here you are wailing away that Democrats arw blah blah blah, which is totally a this side that side argument. 40 years ago Warren's cousin asked her to submit a recipe for a cookbook, and you think it was a political statement because hyperpartisan Republicans told you it was.
 
WilliamSeger said:
When we kids acted cranky, my mother used to say, "Did you get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning?" I never quite understood what that meant since my bed was against the wall, but I knew what she meant when she said it. Did you get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning?
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I see you have absolutely no rebuttal to my statement, so instead you attack my character. Screw formal debates, we're in a discussion here, and you can't distill everything to just two sides. Do you even get that very basic idea?
 
wareyin said:
Way to miss the point. I guess I can't award it to you.

Everything you have thought about Warren's actions has been based off the Republican claims about her actions. To stick with the cookbook: it was not and was never intended to be authentic Native American recipes, nor a statement on Native American tribal membership. But Republicans have claimed it was, and you bought their claims. Now here you are wailing away that Democrats arw blah blah blah, which is totally a this side that side argument. 40 years ago Warren's cousin asked her to submit a recipe for a cookbook, and you think it was a political statement because hyperpartisan Republicans told you it was.
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That's out of line, in my opinion. If JoeMorgue said that, you can quote it here for us.
 
JoeMorgue said:
This ain't that hard.

Democrats imagine how you would feel if you opened a Soul Food cookbook right now and saw a recipe from Donald Trump in it. Imagine how okay you would be with it. Imagine how little or big of a deal you feel it is.

That's how you should feel now. Or you can dig into defending the tribe and give me special pleadings why it would be different. I think I'll probably get more of the latter.
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Wait, my imagination requires more details: Did Donnie's mother tell him he had black blood? Was he proud of it? And was this book published before or after he went into politics?
 
carlitos said:
That's out of line, in my opinion. If JoeMorgue said that, you can quote it here for us.
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I said something negative about their side, ergo the only possible reason is the other side is the source of the negative opinion. If I didn't form the opinion myself (which would make me part of "the other side") then they had to have given me the opinion.

Even when you're not a member of one of the tribes, your opinions have to have come from them.

This is insane and it has destroyed political discourse. Maybe for good.
 
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