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Election Time: Denmark

I hope the muslims are never able to elect a person in Denmark. I've heard that they want the law of sharia in Denmark one day.

Naser Khader is a muslim and a member of the Parliament.

And no, he doesn't want sharia in Denmark.
 
That social democrat is a cutie.

On a similar level, after listening to the deabte tonight, I can't decide if she'd be more or less annoying, sonically, than the current PM (she's the only real contender a this point). None of them are great speakers, unfortunately. Still, a change from Fogh's nasal droning of simplistic, ready-made talking points would be welcome.
 
Naser Khader is a muslim and a member of the Parliament.

And no, he doesn't want sharia in Denmark.

I believe Hüseyin Arac is as well. Oh noes! That's two!

Cainkane, I've heard lots of things, too. If I'm going to hope for something, it is that more people who aren't members of the state church get elected. That includes muslims. We need that to focus the criticism of such an institution.
 
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I hope the muslims are never able to elect a person in Denmark. I've heard that they want the law of sharia in Denmark one day.
Nah, that's just a few of them. Most know better than that. In fact, a number of them are fugitives from countries with sharia laws.

Anyhow, there are already a few muslims in our parliament.

Hans
 
Nah, that's just a few of them. Most know better than that.
How do you know for sure? I've never seen any polls on the subject, but perhaps there have been some?

In fact, a number of them are fugitives from countries with sharia laws.
Some of them are, but that doesn't automatically mean they disagree with those laws.
 
None of them are great speakers, unfortunately.
No, they really aren't. I'd say the overall level of eloquence in our politicians is rather low at the moment. The older generation had a few who were capable, but they've mostly left or faded into the background now.

Still, a change from Fogh's nasal droning of simplistic, ready-made talking points would be welcome.
I think simplistic, read-made talking points are here to stay no matter what side you listen to. They're all repeating their small set of prepared phrases over and over again.
 
No, they really aren't. I'd say the overall level of eloquence in our politicians is rather low at the moment. The older generation had a few who were capable, but they've mostly left or faded into the background now.

I think simplistic, read-made talking points are here to stay no matter what side you listen to. They're all repeating their small set of prepared phrases over and over again.

I'm afraid you're right about the talking points. With few exceptions, I hear that tendency all over.

It's just that Fogh for some reason is made of teflon - any and all criticism of him is deflected by his prepared sound-bites. And amazingly, that works for him when it doesn't for anyone else.

I mean, do you remember Jelved who couldn't get a word in edgewise because everyone was teasing her with that hand bag and something about café latte? Meanwhile Fogh, who is partly responsible for Iraq and had to leave office last time he was minister (of tax), is engorged in positive press about being "down with the people" when he does something inconsequential like rolling up his shirt-sleeves.
 
Approx. 30 minutes ago, the Danish prime minister, Anders "Fjog" Rasmussen called a prime election with vote date november 13th 2007. This means that for the next 3 weeks various political parties are going to vying for my personal vote, selling themselves like prostitutes on speed.

Problem is that this year I actually want to VOTE instead of putting my "x" down after the eniey-miney-moe method that most of my peers seems to favour.

So if anyone could help me figure the differences out between the various chair-hoggers and their respective cheerleading squads (read: Political parties), I would be most gratefull.

Yes, this is mostly for the Danish members of JREF, but I figured it could make for a nice debate.......
Vote for continued good times. Vote for Venstre.
 
It's just that Fogh for some reason is made of teflon - any and all criticism of him is deflected by his prepared sound-bites. And amazingly, that works for him when it doesn't for anyone else.

I mean, do you remember Jelved who couldn't get a word in edgewise because everyone was teasing her with that hand bag and something about café latte? Meanwhile Fogh, who is partly responsible for Iraq and had to leave office last time he was minister (of tax), is engorged in positive press about being "down with the people" when he does something inconsequential like rolling up his shirt-sleeves.
That old tax thing is a non-issue. What happened wasn't his fault, but as the minister everything going on in his department was ultimately his responsibility and so he resigned. By doing this he saved his career and ensured that he'd be able to hold office again at a later date. That's how the unwritten rules are in our parliament. Pia Gjellerup, for example, did pretty much exactly the same thing and no one held that against her when she came back after being forced out of her first ministerial post. Sometimes you just have to take one for the team.

Fogh certainly isn't partly responsible for Iraq. There can be no doubt that Bush would have gone ahead without any Danish support. He was partly responsible for the Danish involvement, but the opposition can't get much traction out of that because the social democrats themselves voted for some of it and because we're no longer there.

I really can't remember a time when Jelved couldn't get a word in edgewise. On the contrary I feel I've spent a fairly large part of my life listening to her scolding me as if I was a naughty eight year old schoolboy. What eventually forced her out had very little to do with the press talking about her handbags, IMO.

But I don't think Fogh and Jelved have (had?) very similar styles at all. No matter what else you might think of him Fogh does come across as calm, unflappable and well prepared. Of these I'll give Jelved "well prepared", but certainly not the other two.
 
Vote for continued good times. Vote for Venstre.

I think he was looking for somethign slightly more substantial than a campaign slogan. we'll get enough of that from the aforementioned drug-addled prostitutes of doom.
 
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How do you know for sure? I've never seen any polls on the subject, but perhaps there have been some?

There is an emerging movement of moderates.

Some of them are, but that doesn't automatically mean they disagree with those laws.

Would seem quite likely, though.

Hans
 
I say Venstre as well.. The times the Social Democrats have been at the wheel the debt has shot through the roof. We've spent the better part of the last 6 years or so paying that debt back since Anders Fogh Rasmussen ended the latest Social Democratic spending spree.
 
I say Venstre as well.. The times the Social Democrats have been at the wheel the debt has shot through the roof. We've spent the better part of the last 6 years or so paying that debt back since Anders Fogh Rasmussen ended the latest Social Democratic spending spree.

Hehehe....... I don't think you want to compare public spending....
 
I say Venstre as well.. The times the Social Democrats have been at the wheel the debt has shot through the roof. We've spent the better part of the last 6 years or so paying that debt back since Anders Fogh Rasmussen ended the latest Social Democratic spending spree.

You might want to pay less atention to propaganda and more to the facts. The debt has been decreasing since 1997. http://www.nationalbanken.dk/C1256BE2005737D3/side/Statens_laantagning_og_gaeld_2001/$file/kap5.htm

And of cause the unemployment dropped dramatically, and the trade balanced improved significantly under Nyrup as well. Sorry to burst you bubble.

I don't supose you could explain which part of Foghs economic policy you find so brilliant? Please don't further illustrate your ignorance by saying the tax stop or I'll have to laugh in your face.
 
There is an emerging movement of moderates.
There are some moderates, no doubt about that. But without any statistics or polls how do you get any idea of their number?
It's also being said that the younger generations are now turning out to be more likely to turn to fundamentalism than than their parents were, but again without any data to back it up. Just anecdotes and a stories of a few individuals.

I'd like to believe that the majority of Muslims living here are firmly behind democracy and secular law, but can we really know?
 
The results are in!

Anders Fogh Rasmussen (AFR) is able to continue leading the country. His block, with the support of a Faerose mandate and New Alliance, has 95 seats in the Parliament (a majority), while the social democrat block has 81 seats.

New Alliance, the party expected to be the "deal breaker" and change the political landscape in Denmark, only managed to get 2.8% of the vote, securing only 5 seats. AFR's Liberal-Conservative block thus has a majority even without NA's mandates.

End result: Back where we started.

The voter turnout was 86.6%

BBC Story
 
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I was kind of rooting for the cute blond... :(




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Say what? Are you kidding me?

86% ?!!! You people are sick! :p
86% is a decent turnout, slightly higher than the last election. We haven't dipped under 80% since WW2 IIRC.
 

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