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Merged Edgar Cayce

Scottch said:
Sorry - I still don't see your evidence. Can you give me a reference/body of work/possible people that I could contact and look at the evidence?

"Why People Believe Weird Things" is a great resource by Michael Shermer. Within the book, Shermer elaborated on many of the fantasy-prone and non-specific ideas that Edgar Cayce had professed.

Beyond their rebuttals - do you have anything else to offer?

Scottch
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http://www.near-death.com/experiences/cayce11.html
 
Scottch said:
Awww...come on! You mean someone who speaks in double entendre is being resurrected???

Nostradamus has been debunked for decades!

Why am I wasting time with this.

And with a "near-death" web site propaganda?

Scottch
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there are more
 
idunno said:
Edgar made amazing psychic predictions, no less than 14000,and about 90% were accurate.
How do you think he did it?
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Isn't that about what you'd expect? I'm pretty sure at least 90% of what I say is accurate.

Linda
 
Hokulele said:
Welcome to the world of a "discussion" with idunno.
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Thanks Hokulele -

I was so stupid...didn't see that coming.

Long day, kid on the loose, much work to be done - I should have seen it!

I bid you all a fond adieu!

Scottch
 
idunno said:
Edgar made amazing psychic predictions, no less than 14000,and about 90% were accurate. How do you think he did it?
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14,000 huh? Then it should be a breeze for you to give us a mere ten examples.
 
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Jeff Corey said:
No they weren't. No they weren't. Now nothing.
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Yes they were, and they are still available. More than 14,000 of Cayce's readings, some of which contained predictions, are on file at the Association for Research and Enlightenment (ARE) at Virginia Beach, Virginia, and are also available on-line to members of the ARE. As far as I can determine, those readings are the totality of preserved Cayce readings (no censorship). Cayce did give many more readings than that, but unfortunately, they were not systematically preserved until September 1923, when he was already 46.
 
Verified? As in, shown to be true? Or verified, as in the comotose "prophet" mumbled a bunch of gobbliddlygook that somebody recorded?
Excuse me a second, my new puppy is coprophagous, see you later.
 
Jeff Corey said:
Verified? As in, shown to be true? Or verified, as in the comotose "prophet" mumbled a bunch of gobbliddlygook that somebody recorded?
Excuse me a second, my new puppy is coprophagous, see you later.
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Naming no names I believe that there are some persons posting on the forum that share that problem.:D
 
idunno said:
Edgar made amazing psychic predictions, no less than 14000,and about 90% were accurate.
How do you think he did it?
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What verifiable and reputable source do you have to back this up? Websites that promote pseudoscience do not count (like that Near Death Experience page).

We've given you well researched sources in this thread (actual books, no less!). Where are yours?

It's interesting that out of 14,000 predictions, Cayce didn't have one that was clear and to the point before the fact of: Sept 11 attacks, JFK assassination, etc etc. You would think that such a talented "psychic" would have helped to prevent these kind of events, since precognition of them would have made them avoidable. Instead, he went into trances to told people to rub laetrile on themselves if they had the cancer.

You, sir, made an extraordinary claim. It is not up to us to provide the extraordinary evidence.

~ggep~
 
Since it's a part of this website, I'm sure James Randi won't mind if I quote from An Encyclopedia of Claims, Frauds and Hoaxes of the Occult and Supernatural.As this is a reference book, James doesn't debunk, he just reports. The debunking came in Flim Flam.

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[SIZE=+0][SIZE=+0]Cayce, Edgar[/SIZE] (1877-1945) A photographer who as a child began to hear voices and see visions. When he was twenty-four he began offering spiritual cures. While he said he was in a trance, Cayce diagnosed illnesses of persons he had never met, performing this task after merely being given the name and location of a patient who had written to him, in a manner similar to that practiced today by the qi gong practitioners in China. He would declare on Atlantis, reincarnation, and other similar subjects while he gave his diagnoses, using what he believed to be clairvoyant powers.
Cayce said he had been through a number of incarnations, which included a warrior of Troy, a disciple of Jesus Christ, an Egyptian priest, a Persian monarch, and a heavenly angel-like being that had been on Earth prior to Adam and Eve.
Though he had the reputation of never directly charging for his mail-order diagnoses, Cayce received large amounts of money in the form of donations. He claimed divine connections by which he was able to “have the body” of the ill person during a “trance state,” a condition that was admittedly indistinguishable from sleep on occasion, sometimes even accompanied by snoring. The more than thirty thousand readings he did that are on file at the Association for Research and Enlightenment in Virginia Beach, Virginia, call for simple herbs, massage, fasting, and rather strange physical procedures that have doubtful value as remedies.
In common with most of the divinely inspired mystics, Cayce also dabbled in prophecy. In 1934 he declared that Poseidia (which he said was a portion of Atlantis) would be the first part of that fabled continent to rise again from the Atlantic. “Expect it in 1968 or 1969,” he told his fans. Poseidia, his imaginary creation, did not rise, nor have any of his other prophecies been fulfilled.
But there is always hope. In his 1934 predictions, he declared in an “update on earth changes”:
[SIZE=+0]The earth will be broken up in the western portion of America. The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea. The upper portion of Europe will be changed as in the twinkling of an eye. Land will appear off the east coast of America. There will be the upheavals in the Arctic and in the Antarctic that will make for the eruption of volcanoes in the Torrid areas, and there will be the shifting then of the poles——so that where there have been those of a frigid or semi-tropical [sic] will become the more tropical, and moss and fern will grow. And these will begin in those periods in '58 to '98.[/SIZE]

As of this date, those events have failed to occur. How could that be?[/SIZE]
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Rodney said:
Yes they were, and they are still available. More than 14,000 of Cayce's readings, some of which contained predictions, are on file at the Association for Research and Enlightenment (ARE) at Virginia Beach, Virginia, and are also available on-line to members of the ARE. As far as I can determine, those readings are the totality of preserved Cayce readings (no censorship). Cayce did give many more readings than that, but unfortunately, they were not systematically preserved until September 1923, when he was already 46.
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Note that the ARE is a foundation created by Cayce and dedicated to his teachings.

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[SIZE=+0]Association for Research and Enlightenment[/SIZE] (ARE) Headquartered in Virginia Beach, Virginia, the ARE was founded in 1931 by Edgar Cayce (1877-1945). It is dedicated to perpetuating Cayce's teachings on spiritual healing, reincarnation and other notions. The center boasts a comprehensive library and a conference center associated with Atlantic University. The ARE promotes herbal remedies, baths, and fasting as methods to cure ailments, in the manner prescribed by Cayce.
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Some paranormal T.V. program claimed Atlantis was found in the form of vaguely pillar shaped coral back in the 70s or 80s and that was supposed to constitute Cayce's prophesy. The coral was where the Bermuda triangle was of course. Point being any possible event can be used to claim the truth of a vaguely written prophesy.
 
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