[Ed]Hardfire with Mark Roberts and Arthur Scheuerman

I will always correct your falsehood. There were no conspiracy liars because they were afraid to show up.

How many did you ask?

Notice on your call in show you were inundated with truthers ringing in.....then you decided not to show that one. Amazing.
 
Doug Plumb (B. Eng, Electrical Engineer)

I personally e-mailed this quack about the show and urged him to suggest an AE911 representative for the debate.

Nothing...
 
Jharrow,

do you think a firefighter with this experience is qualified enough to make the statements like on
16:07 and
20:05?
 
How many did you ask?

Notice on your call in show you were inundated with truthers ringing in.....then you decided not to show that one. Amazing.

What specific arguments made by Mark or Arthur would have been refuted had a conspiracist been on the show? Based on the confidence of your previous posts, this should be quite easy for you.
 
This was my favourite hardfire show.
Great stuff, Ron.



You and Mark should do a little mini-series with the same format, just with different topics.

- Foreknowledge
- NORAD
- WTC 1 and 2.
- Pentagon
- UA93.

Etc.

The information was easily digested, and very informative.
Thanks!
 
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Man, are firemen born with mustache's?

Ron, iron that damn shirt buddy.

Thanks for this.
 
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This was my favourite hardfire show.
Great stuff, Ron.



You and Mark should do a little mini-series with the same format, just with different topics.

- Foreknowledge
- NORAD
- WTC 1 and 2.
- Pentagon
- UA93.

Etc.

The information was easily digested, and very informative.
Thanks!


You're welcome! You must be reading my mind. I was think that, in view of the understandable reluctance of prominent fantasists to subject the nonsense they peddle to Mark's scrutiny, we should do a series of shows devoted to specific topics.
 
JHarrow. Of course collapse zones are standard procedure, because fire can sometimes cause a building to collapse. How is that a hard concept?

And then you have a firefighter from the FDNY...talking about the fires, but you disregard it because there were no pictures. Unbelievable.
 
You're welcome! You must be reading my mind. I was think that, in view of the understandable reluctance of prominent fantasists to subject the nonsense they peddle to Mark's scrutiny, we should do a series of shows devoted to specific topics.

Stop pretending you can't find truthers to appear. I will happily be on your next show on the phone.
 
Stop pretending you can't find truthers to appear. I will happily be on your next show on the phone.


But you don't know anything and you are--how to put it most charitably?--not terribly bright. That makes you different from Les Jamieson, Dylan Avery, Jason Bermas, and Jim Fetzer because they, uh, they...um...the thing about them is...uh...

You may have made an important point.
 
The point is that they are well known and moderately able to articulate an idea, even if the idea itself is utter nonsense? (Ok, that perhaps won't apply to Bermas)
 
Stop pretending you can't find truthers to appear. I will happily be on your next show on the phone.

I find it hilarious that suddenly CTers are exhibiting all of this bravado after the show in question was recorded.

JHarrow, where have you been for the last several weeks when Ron was literally beating the bushes to find any CTers willing to appear on this show?
 
Again, Arthur backs up my point that the firefighting operations in 7 were stopped because of a lack of water pressure, not because of the severity of the fires.

Yeah, not so much.

One again, CTers that you are, you take an out of context comment by someone who clearly does not support your position and twist it around to suit your agenda.

Arthur definitely thinks the fires were severe enough to contribute to to the collapse, and said as much several times.

As a matter of fact, only 2 minutes and 32 seconds in, we have this exchange (bolding mine):

Ron: Arthur, it sounds to me like an extraordinary feat by the fire department to avoid anymore loss of life on this terrible day.

Arthur: Yeah, absolutely. Especially when you abandon a building, there's an uncontrollable fire, there is a possibility of collapse no matter what kind of building it is.

Not only does Arthur refute the tired CTers claim of lack of severe fire, he also refutes the CTer claim of lack of damage, and the Larry Silverstein "pull it" canard, among others.

You promised us a shredding, JHarrow.

What say you to these refutations of an experienced firefighter who was on the scene that day?
 

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