Merged [Ed] Get involved detecting the ade 651 detector / Jim McCormick arrested

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If you do you might be interested in this interview from Mexico.

In the interview Luis Mochan, a Phyiscs Professor at Instituto de Ciencias Físicas, UNAM, speaks to the journalist Carmen Aristegui, about the role of the UK Government in helping to promote the GT200.

Luis has been working hard to end the use of the GT200 and the ADE651 in Mexico. We hope the coverage that he is getting will finally make the Government in Mexico see some sense and stop the use of these useless devices once and for all.

Hopefully it will also cause further embarrassment to the UK officials responsible for helping Gary Bolton sell the GT200. This despite the fact that a Home Office report was circulated in Whitehall in 2001 that warned these devices were not capable of the claims made for them.

The information that Luis is speaking about is from the article in The Guardian

Here is the interview with Luis:


http://m.aristeguinoticias.com/3101/mexico/embajada-britanica-promovio-la-ouija-del-diablo-en-mexico-luis-mochan/
 
Hi Biff,

Yes. You are right, as with so many scams they manage to regenerate themselves. I have posted separately under the Science etc heading about this. Dastardly Detectors and Miracle Cure For HIV new threads because I though that the new applications for the magic wands deserved specific attention.
 
Dubious Dick said:
For those of you who can get BBC Iplayer, here is the full report from BBC Inside Out West:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03x0tx1/Inside_Out_West_03_03_2014/

Two interesting aspects. First the new Mira Telecom developed 'detector' finally has the flashing light that McCormick promised for the ADE651 before he went to prison last year.
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Quite a thorough report for a local area channel. Thanks - glad to hear details of the 'new' device will be brought up in parliament.
 
Dick,

Thanks for the link. Those of us outside the normal BBC viewing area can use an extension like Media Hint for Chrome or Firefox to see the report.
 
Bad news - it looks as though the Egyptian military is now claiming that something that looks very, very, very much like the ADE 651 and its variants is, in fact, a remarkable scientific device that can detect and cure AIDS and hepatitis.

http://www.watoday.com.au/world/egy...-ridiculed-medical-device-20140629-zspzd.html

The tragic thing about these farcical cases is that not only does it put people at genuine risk, but that it is countries that can least afford to waste money and resources that are throwing funds at the phonies that sell these devices. Of course, it's very probable that the reason that the countries adopt these devices in the first place is because of kickbacks and other forms of bribery, so that does help to explain why they use them despite the total and utter lack of any convincing evidence to show that they work.
 
As long as we're including updates, I should mention something that I posted in a dowsing thread.

Our current leader, General Prayuth, was still defending the GT200 and Sniffex as late as 2013, even after a thorough debunking by one of the universities here. His defense didn't say they actually work, but that they had nothing better in the field so they might as well use them. :eek: Yes, this is the head of a country, now!
 
Jhau said:
Bad news - it looks as though the Egyptian military is now claiming that something that looks very, very, very much like the ADE 651 and its variants is, in fact, a remarkable scientific device that can detect and cure AIDS and hepatitis.

http://www.watoday.com.au/world/egy...-ridiculed-medical-device-20140629-zspzd.html

The tragic thing about these farcical cases is that not only does it put people at genuine risk, but that it is countries that can least afford to waste money and resources that are throwing funds at the phonies that sell these devices. Of course, it's very probable that the reason that the countries adopt these devices in the first place is because of kickbacks and other forms of bribery, so that does help to explain why they use them despite the total and utter lack of any convincing evidence to show that they work.
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This is a story that has been covered in another thread. The so called 'detector' is known as C-Fast, with another product, the Complete Cure Device supposedly curing HIV/AIDS.

The good news is that deployment of these to Egyptian hospitals has been suspended, after a brave campaign by medics and bloggers in Egypt, and an International outcry, largely kicked off by Pepijn Van Erp in Holland.

The word from Egypt is that the Government have called for more testing, but an Egyptian blogger suggests that this is the end for C-Fast and CCD, and that the six Month delay for additional testing is just a face saving smokescreen. Hopefully he is correct.

See: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/28/egypt-military-aids-cure-device-backtrack
 
Foolmewunz said:
As long as we're including updates, I should mention something that I posted in a dowsing thread.

Our current leader, General Prayuth, was still defending the GT200 and Sniffex as late as 2013, even after a thorough debunking by one of the universities here. His defense didn't say they actually work, but that they had nothing better in the field so they might as well use them. :eek: Yes, this is the head of a country, now!
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Sadly reports suggest ongoing use of ADE651, GT200 and Alpha6 variants in Iraq, Pakistan and Mexico as well.

No doubt a combination of the same excuse used in Thailand, which is of course mad, and the reluctance of buyers to admit they were fooled and/or bribed.
 
Our man in Germany has discovered the latest in copycat explosives 'detectors' being marketed in China.

http://www.cdsuomai.com/en/Product_Show.asp?id=1

http://www.cdsuomai.com/en/Product.asp

http://www.cdsuomai.com/en/Pride.asp

I have written to the Chinese Embassy in London to draw thei attention to this, and suggest that the Government in China gets a grip of this. We believe that McCormick managed to sell them unit sof the ADE651 in the past.

If anyone else in the U.K. feels like dropping the embassy a line, here are some email addresses I managed to dig up:

[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]

If you are not in the U.K. why not check out the contact details for your very own Chinese Embassy and let them know what you think. The more the merrier, and if they get a few complaints from various parts of the World it may help to get them to sit up and take notice.

Here is the text of my email. I am sure some of you can do even better!

It is with regret that I am writing to inform you of the continuing marketing of so called 'detectors' in China, which are useless and dangerous.

We have information that a version of these so called 'detectors', the ADE651, was sold in China. It is worth noting that the man behind the ADE651, Mr James McCormick, was convicted of fraud in the U.K. in 2013.

It has come to our attention that a number of Chinese companies are still selling similar devices. The latest details we have are as follows:

http://www.cdsuomai.com/en/Product_Show.asp?id=1

http://www.cdsuomai.com/en/Product.asp

http://www.cdsuomai.com/en/Pride.asp

In case you do not know, such 'detectors' are incapable of performing as claimed. They are no more than fancy dowsing rods, and dowsing itself has long been known not to be effective.

May I respectfully suggest that your Government investigates the selling of such devices, and takes steps to prevent this in future.
 
Trees Alpha 6 Retrial

For those of you who are interested, just been sent this:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10967191/Couple-claimed-fake-bomb-detector-could-even-find-Madeleine-McCann.html

This is a retrial as the Jury was unable to decide last time around. We had thought that this was due back in May, but seems to have been delayed for some unknown reason. Probably best not to make any detailed comment at this stage as would not want to stymie the proceedings with anything potentially prejudicial. Will just say for now that hope for the right outcome!
 
I regret to have to inform you that the trial has apparently been postponed due to the Judge falling ill. We can only hope that the delay is not too long, as we are keen to see justice is done. If we receive any further news we will of course try to let you know as soon as possible.
 
More good news.

Following news of the guilty verdicts on Samuel and Joan Tree (see last post), the news has emerged that Gary Bolton of GT200 infamy appealed against both his conviction and sentence.

Bolton lost challenges against his conviction and seven-year jail sentence yesterday.

Bolton was present in the dock of the court to hear Lord Justice Pitchford, Mr Justice Wilkie and Mr Justice Green reject his claims that he suffered "unfair prejudice" during his trial and that his sentence was too long.

Lord Justice Pitchford said the sentence was "appropriate" for the criminality involved in his case.
 
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