Merged [Ed] Get involved detecting the ade 651 detector / Jim McCormick arrested

He should have instead been sentenced to crossing a minefield while armed with a sniffex.
 
Mister Earl said:
He should have instead been sentenced to crossing a minefield while armed with a sniffex.
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The problem is that most mines are not designed to kill. They are designed to seriously injure a person. A dead person does not require much money to look after. A seriously injured person requires heaps of money to look after.
 
rjh01 said:
The problem is that most mines are not designed to kill. They are designed to seriously injure a person. A dead person does not require much money to look after. A seriously injured person requires heaps of money to look after.
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Who said anything about looking after?
 
What care did "they" provide for all the victims of the bombs that got past the check points using their fake bomb detectors? Nobody has suggested that they should be denied care. It's just that care won't be provided. They can recruit all of their supporters and equip them with the best bomb detectors they make to navigate the mine field to come to their aid. Nobody is going to stop them.


ETA: If they honestly believe that their detectors work, they won't even object to the test.
 
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rjh01 said:
What, you more evil and sadistic than what they are?
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No, we aren't. After he blowed up real good, we would show him 10 boxes and say that if he wants to call for an ambulance, a mobile phone is under one of them.

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disclaimer: yes, some JREF posters and lurkers will be offended by such talk. I am not sincerely advocating a plan. I am being snarky and sarcastic and, in actuality, do not want to live in a country that would do that to a convicted criminal. Posts such as this one are how I deal with the tragedy of the thousands of people killed or injured by this man's unbridled greed.
 
Professor Yaffle said:
Do we have to have the revenge fantasy stuff in every thread? Really?
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I can't speak for anyone else, but my answer is yes.
My reasons are found in Dan O's post, as well as their complete denial of blame at every step of the charges, indictment, and trial.



Now if you want to argue that the fantasy does not have to be on every page of this thread, then I may sheepishly agree somewhat.
 
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I am sorry to have to report some bad news sent by Luis Mochan, a Professor of Physics at UNAM in Mexico, who has long been bravely campaigning against the fake detectors.

here is the text of his latest mail:

A lawyer and human rights activist, Jesús Robles Maloof published
today an article where, among other things, he describes how the GT200
was presented as evidence to arrest and imprison a blogger, acussed
of selling drugs, as recently as August the 8th! This happened in the
state of Chiapas, in the south of Mexico, whose attorney general
claimed a couple of days after Bolton's sentence that in CHiapas, the
detectors do work. I had challenged him publicly some weeks ago to
test them, but he hasn't taken the challenge, in contrast to the
governor of the state of Colima, who did accept the challenge and
later announced that his detectors indeed didn't work. Jesús Robles
Maloof got his article translated into English and posted it at his
blog

http://roblesmaloof.wordpress.com/2013/10/01/the-devils-ouija-against-a-digital-activist-in-mexico/

In other news, the annual report of the army was published in
Septermber 1. Sadly, it does mention the GT200 as if it were in use,
at least in 14 mobile checkpoints, without mentioning that it is
worthless. I posted a copy in my blog (in Spanish). It seems that the
corresonding report from the Navy refrained from mentioning the
GT200.

I have written as follows to William Hague, and would urge you all to do the same:

URGENT

F.T.A.O.: William Hague, Foreign Secretary

Dear Mr Hague,

I regret to have to pass on news (see below) concerning ongoing use of the GT200 fake detector in Mexico.

This despite the convictions for fraud of James McCormick, and Gary Bolton.

I urge you to bring further urgent pressure to bear on the Mexican Government to end the use of these useless devices. Not least on the grounds that The UK Government was foolish enough to support Bolton in the promotion of these devices e.g. via UKTI DSO, REEST and the British Embassy in Mexico. Given that history I believe it is the least you can do to make strenuous efforts in this matter.

Yours sincerely,
Peter Robinson

You can use the following email:

[email protected]

Thanks and regards,
DD
 
Well spotted Pixel. Just came here to link to that story but you have to get up early to get ahead of JREFers ;-)

Seems the corrupt barstewards who bought the stuff just cannot let go.

See the suggestion that some still believe in the deterrent effect of the dodgy devices. That might have been true for a bout ten seconds some years back (though still no excuse for buying ****), but is simply a joke of the funny peculiar variety now.

Hope you will all let the British Foreign Office know what you feel about this as per my previous post.

Cheers,

DD
 
An article by Gwynne Dyer in today's Canberra Times about the situation in Iraq, a major bit is about the fake ADE-651 bomb detector that is still being used. The article does mention that it is not all bad. The final paragraph is
The soldiers and police using them in the streets do not mind. If they should find a bomb in a car, the suicide bomber driving it will almost always detonate the explosives and kill them. So a bomb detector that does not detect bombs is just fine with them.
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them means the ADE-651.
Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/com...sk-detected-20131010-2vb5x.html#ixzz2hNDzn1Ph

Edit. Same article here http://www.straight.com/news/501986...candal-around-bogus-bomb-surveillance-devices
 
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Techowiz said:
As stated on other forums, this is an issue that is gathering momentum and not before time. These fraudsters must have pocketed millions with this scam.
As we approach remembrence day lets not forget the brave soldiers whose lives are at risk from this scam equipment.
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Let's not also forget the innocent civilians who could be falsely targeted by these devices when used by corrupt police for the purpose of seizing property.
 
The story is being covered on BBC's Crimewatch tonight. £38 million? Jeebus he makes most wooster scammers look like penny pinchers.
Oh and they're still being used in Iraq and elsewhere.
 
I watched Crimewatch last night and was a bit disappointed that they didn't even give a nod of the head to Randi (see first post in this thread)
 
Well Deserved Award!

Pleased to report that The Gnome Business Awards for 2013 (Private Eye Number 1357 10 - 23 Jan 2014) Crook Of The Year is James McCormick.

To quote Private Eye, "The most odious in the award's history...who made £50m selling fake bomb detectors to the gullible and corrupt of Iraq (and elsewhere of course). McCormick, jailed for 10 years, edged out former partner Gary Bolton, who used the same con in less dangerous countries and was jailed for seven years."

Well deserved I would venture to suggest.
 
Dubious Dick said:
This concerning the Uk Government support given to Gary Bolton to promote his Mole and GT200 variants of the fake detectors.

Well done to Rob Booth at The Guardian for tenaciously following this story up!

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jan/26/fraudster-paid-government-promote-fake-bomb-detectors

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/26/government-soldiers-ambassador-fake-bomb-detector
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My emotions are swinging between anger and sadness.
Guardian article said:
The government accepted more than £5,000 in payments from the fraudster to supply uniformed Royal Engineers to promote the bogus kit at international trade fairs in the Middle East and Europe,
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