Merged [Ed] Convicted Lockerbie bomber released
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That odor you're smelling is Scottish haddock falling apart.
'... now doctors who were treating the 58-year-old Libyan have said they were not asked for their opinion about his life expectancy and were surprised to hear the convicted mass murderer was being sent home."
The revelations have led to fresh calls for al-Megrahi’s full medical records to be released amid allegations that the Scottish Government has been guilty of a “saga of contradictions, confusion and broken promises”.
"But it has now emerged that in making his assessment Dr Andrew Fraser – the head of health care for the Scottish Prison Service, who is not a cancer specialist, had no direct contact with the medical experts treating the convicted terrorist.
Relying on medical notes Dr Fraser concluded that the Libyan had less than three months to live – the maximum life expectancy allowed for him to be released on compassionate grounds.
But Dr Zac Latif, a consultant urologist at the Royal Alexandra Hospital in Paisley, has now confirmed he never met or spoke to Dr Fraser and had no idea how he had concluded al-Megrahi only had three months to live."
funk de fino
Dreaming of unicorns
Fail- It was still nothing to do with Sikora. I suggest you do some research on this. Rolfe can help you.
E.J.Armstrong
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Is that blood lust I'm smelling? How very old testament and full of hatred.
Luckily, the Scottish government holds itself to more decent standards.
Happily, the Scottish government has also given the lunatic Menendez and his compatriots the bums' rush. Giving the Usan senators the finger is quite refreshing. I urge Cameron to grow a backbone and try it some time - man, it do feel good.
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Already covered Professor Karol Sikora's dishonor and Dr Andrew Fraser's incompetence. Unless al-Megrahi actually died 9 months ago, what further research is necessary to recognize (as the Obama administration does) the stupidity of Scottish Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill decision?
Matthew Best
Penultimate Amazing
I think you'd have to demonstrate that he made a stupid decision. Let me know when you get around to that.
That ship sailed a long time ago. What you might attempt, if you are so inclined, is to explain why the true state of al-Megrahi's health was so completely bungled.
Matthew Best
Penultimate Amazing
I don't think it's been demonstrated that it was bungled.
Do you think al-Megrahi has a twin?
Matthew Best
Penultimate Amazing
Not as far as I am aware. Though if he does, I fail to see the relevance.
Aepervius
Non credunt, semper verificare
Cicero, medical science is not mathematic. Prediction don't come 100% out. There are TONS of people out there which were told they would live a few month only, to die years afterward. There are actually people which die earlier too.
*ALL* you can say as a fact , is that he lived longer than predicted. You haven't proved that the diagnostic of lethality of his cancer was wrong.
Secondly, having followed the process , the glaring problem with it for a long time, I can shake heads when I see the USian yelling for blood.
*ALL* you can say as a fact , is that he lived longer than predicted. You haven't proved that the diagnostic of lethality of his cancer was wrong.
Secondly, having followed the process , the glaring problem with it for a long time, I can shake heads when I see the USian yelling for blood.
This wasn't just any diagnosis on just any patient. This was a diagnosis that had to meet the criteria for the Scottish Compassionate Release Process for a mass murderer, which says, "expectancy of less than three months may be considered an appropriate period."
Next time Scotland wants to impress the world with its enormous capacity for compassion could they make sure that:
1) The mass murderer they select for release only killed Scots.
2) The three months life expectancy wasn't pulled out of Dr. Fraser's posterior,
3) And that the authorities actually check out the qualifications of the medical personnel being relied upon for their advice.
Professor Yaffle
Butterbeans and Breadcrumbs
They released Ronnie Biggs too, and he's lived even longer than Megrahi since his release. People live longer than their prognosis would indicate all the time.
Matthew Best
Penultimate Amazing
You seem to think you're making a point but I don't think you've quite managed it yet. If the point is that Megrahi has lived longer than the prognosis said he would, then I'm afraid your faith in medical predictions of life expectancy is over-confident. The decision has to be made on the best medical advice available - you haven't demonstrated that there was better medical advice that the decision could and should have been based on.
But maybe that's not your point - I don't know, as you haven't really made it clear, possibly deliberately. I suspect you're just annoyed and want to complain, but you can't quite point to anything that you can reasonably complain about.
Too bad Scottish Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill didn't get your memo before he released Megrahi.
Matthew Best
Penultimate Amazing
I haven't written a memo. MacAskill did what he was supposed to do - make a decision based on the best medical advice he had available. What would you have wanted him to do (apart from make a different decision, I mean)? Ignore the best advice and just invent his own?
Could you define what "best" means in Scotland?
"But Dr Zac Latif, a consultant urologist at the Royal Alexandra Hospital in Paisley, has now confirmed he never met or spoke to Dr Fraser and had no idea how he had concluded al-Megrahi only had three months to live."
Matthew Best
Penultimate Amazing
As far as I know, it means the same in Scotland as it does in the rest of the world.
funk de fino
Dreaming of unicorns
Fail. Sikora was an irrelevance. Prove Fraser was incompetent. Did he claim he met all doctors. Did he have to? I suggest you research Frasers remit.
Not clued up on this at all are you?