That's my point. IS being delivered.
What are the chances those people went shopping for groceries before somebody figured out that their improvised quarantine required food to be delivered?
Given they still don't have symptoms, no one would have been exposed anyway.
I had a horrific dream about a zombie outbreak tonight. I just can't find peace from this mess.
EDIT:
This is the 'control' the CDC has:
https://twitter.com/wfaachannel8/status/517739906211528704/photo/1
EDIT 2:
Can someone more knowledgeable than me explain if this is a real concern or not? It's not exactly helping my fears:
http://pissinontheroses.blogspot.com/2014/09/us-army-says-ebola-flu-in-airborne.html
It clashes with what I've learned from TWiV:
http://www.virology.ws/2014/09/18/what-we-are-not-afraid-to-say-about-ebola-virus/
Depending on what they did in the way of disinfecting that sidewalk first, that looks terribly dangerous. They are creating a spray and don't have proper PPE on. I do hope the CDC was involved in that affair, determining what was needed to clean it.
It reminds me of the images of people digging up dead chickens to cook that the H5N1 bird flu had killed. It looks like a break in infection control.
As for the aerosol, I wouldn't put much stock in that. Most flu is also droplet spread. But it's not relevant given we see a completely different pattern of flu spread.
Look at the countries where the cases were quickly stopped, Nigeria for example. With flu, a lot of very mildly ill people are out there spreading the virus around. With ebola, it looks like people are especially contagious when they are seriously ill. They are only spreading the infection to people who have contact with them at this point in the infection.
Duncan had contact with his seriously ill relative within hours of her death. The news had an interview with the taxi driver that drove them around looking for a hospital. She was pregnant. They were likely in denial that it was ebola. Duncan sat with her in the back seat of the cab as they drove to several hospitals that all turned them away. The cabbie says he took her back home, Duncan carried her into the house as she couldn't walk on her own and she died a couple hours later.
So the people that were possibly infected by a brief contact are being forced to live in a confined contaminated space for three weeks?! How long can the Ebola virus survive outside of a host? If the people being quarantined come into contact with the virus two weeks into their stay, they will walk out of quarantine symptom free yet carrying the virus.
That's doubtful. More likely they've been asked to check their temperatures twice a day and
limit contact with other people.
Inferior? Bigoted? I was thinking that the person was reckless or stupid.
The man is no doubt a jerk. But my point was, given the circumstances a whole lot of people wouldn't ask permission, they'd ask for forgiveness.
As for bigotry, while I'm not pointing fingers at anyone, there is definitely a heavy dose of bigoted reactions in this country and some of the posts in the thread smack of "keep them Africans out of here".
What I find interesting is that the politicians who are screaming about the ebola patient in Texas are the same ones, who but a few short weeks ago, were trying the best they could to destroy public health systems.
Jon Stewart's bit last night on misplaced priorities was priceless.
Serious question for the forum: I live in California and have a wedding in Dallas the first week of November. How paranoid am I to be considering canceling my travel plans?
Over the top paranoid. Go to the wedding, don't be ridiculous.
According to the CDC the virus would be viable for up to 3 days. Under idealized laboratory conditions (unlike the world outside of the lab) it can be viable for up to 6 days.
The corpse of a person who has died from Ebola virus disease will be highly contagious for 3 days but not after that.
The difference is in the fluid the virus is contained in. It appears to be similar to HIV, once it dries out it is no longer viable. In a pool of secretions or vomit, it will be viable much longer. Bodies don't dry out in three days. I'll look into what that 3 days for a corpse is based on.
IMO, the level of your concern should be zero until further notice. Further notice would come in the form of headline news announcing the finding of infected persons beyond Duncan.
Even then, if it were the family members or those guys cleaning that sidewalk, I wouldn't worry. Contact tracing is very effective in stopping this kind of infection.
The Dallas hospital whish Duncan first visited claims a "flaw"' in its health records system contributed to release of Ebola patient on his first visit.
This is dubious. That hospital is trying to cover its bum. Claiming the ED nurses ask a history then no one noticed until now that the doctors don't see it?
I don't believe it. Someone is making excuses, probably the doctor making excuses for his/her negligence.
Common sense you are diagnosing a patient with vague symptoms you ask their travel history. Even without this ebola epidemic that should have been part of the standard work up.
