Double-think

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

you are disgusting. show this conclusive proof. i can show u proof that the military machine gunned them as they tried to flee. watch the film waco-a new revelation

http://www.aetv.com/american_justice/aj_episode_guide.jsp?episode=136874
Critical of government handling of it, provides documented evidence showing who did what.

 

[uk_dave]

see what happens when u lot are asked for evidence? u reply with the mature "u need to get out more" argument. very mature

No, my comment about you needing to get a life was in response to your comment about the branch davidians.

Stop spinning for a few minutes and the world will become clearer to you.

As for 14 yr olds, I was using my ability as an impartial observer to make an assesment of the average age of the members of the 'truth' movement based upon internet videos I have seen.

I'm sure you can relate to that methodology.

 

[pdoherty76]

arkan i asked for proof, still waiting

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

arkan i asked for proof, still waiting

You provided a video as your "proof", I gave you a video in return.

 

[pdoherty76]

have u watched the video i suggested arkan? i would like to see u "debunk" it

 

[Dog Town]

I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.

What is "Your name is a killing word"? For 600 Alex. Sorry wrong game...

 

[Gravy]

i think they are very suspicious given that an event compered to pearl harbour then happened and the neocons immediately started referring to it as an "opportunity"

You clearly have not read PNAC's "Rebuilding America's Defenses." Please do.

With regard to alex jones, i personally think he is a brave man who confronts people that most people wont.

Why do you suppose, pdoherty, he would not confront the FDNY when I requested that he walk down the street and tell them what he told me? Why do you think he would make those accusations to his followers, but not to the people he claims were involved? Does that show courage?

And please answer the question, which I ask for the third time: do you think Alex Jones is justified in accusing the FDNY? If so, why? If not, will you speak out against him? It would be horrible to falsely accuse firemen of the things Jones accuses them of, agreed?

Could I ask you gravy what you think alex jones motive is?

Profit.

 

[uk_dave]

pdoherty76,

Have you seen this film (hell, you might even be in it)?

http://tinyurl.com/r3sxl

You only have to watch the first 4.5 minutes.

Does alex jones fill you with pride and admiration?

 

[pdoherty76]

You clearly have not read PNAC's "Rebuilding America's Defenses." Please do.

Why do you suppose, pdoherty, he would not confront the FDNY when I requested that he walk down the street and tell them what he told me? Why do you think he would make those accusations to his followers, but not to the people he claims were involved? Does that show courage?

And please answer the question, which I ask for the third time: do you think Alex Jones is justified in accusing the FDNY? If so, why? If not, will you speak out against him? It would be horrible to falsely accuse firemen of the things Jones accuses them of, agreed?

Profit.

i think the reason he wouldnt confront the fireman is that he thought they would probably be violent to him, a wise decision in my book.

You are totally misrepresenting his view on the fireman, he claims they followed orders and then later were silenced. Fireman do follow orders and groups of employees do get silenced. I dont know if he is right but he is not blaming the firemen.

While we are at it, could you please amend ur mainly excellent wtc7 paper so that it is made clear that alex jones filmed the ritual which u use to question his sanity?

as far as profit is concerned, alex jones could make more money in the mainstream

 

[Pardalis]

Could I ask you gravy what you think alex jones motive is?
Profit.

Profit.

I would say attention mostly.

 

[chipmunk stew]

as far as profit is concerned, alex jones could make more money in the mainstream

 

[MarkyX]

You are totally misrepresenting his view on the fireman, he claims they followed orders and then later were silenced. Fireman do follow orders and groups of employees do get silenced. I dont know if he is right but he is not blaming the firemen.

Strawman. Neither are we claiming AJ to be blaming the firemen.

Alex Jones is calling the firemen LIARS. If you dispute their experiences, you are calling them LIARS.

Alex Jones has claimed on tape that they received the orders from the higher ups. There is no such evidence to support such a notion, and Chief Daniel Nigro has stated that he gave the order to set up a collapse zone because as an experienced fire fighter, he knew it was going to collapse hours ahead. AJ says that is wrong, therefore AJ is accusing the firefighters of being liars.

 

[pdoherty76]

Markyx if alex jones is claiming they are lying he is not claiming they are doing so for fun, he is claiming they have been forced to keep their gobs shut. there is a difference.

How many times in daniel nigros experience of firefighting had he seen 50 storey builings collapse due to fire and damage? None i would suspect

 

[MarkyX]

Markyx if alex jones is claiming they are lying he is not claiming they are doing so for fun, he is claiming they have been forced to keep their gobs shut. there is a difference.

How many times in daniel nigros experience of firefighting had he seen 50 storey builings collapse due to fire and damage? None i would suspect

So you are calling Chief Daniel Nigro, a firefighter who risked his life to save his own, a liar and unprofessional in his work.

Nice.

 

[Gravy]

i think the reason he wouldnt confront the fireman is that he thought they would probably be violent to him, a wise decision in my book.

You think he thought they would be violent to him after he accused them of abandoning their fallen brothers on 9/11 in order to participate in a real estate crime, and then and then conspiring to keep quiet about it? Gosh, maybe you're right!

You are totally misrepresenting his view on the fireman, he claims they followed orders and then later were silenced. Fireman do follow orders and groups of employees do get silenced. I dont know if he is right but he is not blaming the firemen.

Allow me to put on my big surprise face, pdoherty, and suggest that you did not read my paper with the goal of full comprehension. I guess you're a "bold type" kind of guy.

Page 27

Headline, Alex Jones' PrisonPlanet.com
Silverstein, FDNY Decided to Pull WTC 7

Headline, Alex Jones' Infowars.com
World Trade Center Imploded by Silverstein, FDNY And Others

Well, pdoherty?

While we are at it, could you please amend ur mainly excellent wtc7 paper so that it is made clear that alex jones filmed the ritual which u use to question his sanity?

I gave links to his videos, radio show, and websites. Guess you missed that.

as far as profit is concerned, alex jones could make more money in the mainstream

Mainstream media? Not unless he had mainstream ideas, as opposed to paranoid delusions.

 

[Stellafane]

you are disgusting. show this conclusive proof. i can show u proof that the military machine gunned them as they tried to flee. watch the film waco-a new revelation

Man, you're taking the demise of the Loose Change forum pretty hard, huh?

Still shooting blanks by the way, kid.

 

[Gravy]

Strawman. Neither are we claiming AJ to be blaming the firemen.

I am, because he does.

 

[stateofgrace]

Markyx if alex jones is claiming they are lying he is not claiming they are doing so for fun, he is claiming they have been forced to keep their gobs shut. there is a difference.

Any idea by who ?

 

[pdoherty76]

so first hes in it for profit and now he has delusions.

I must admit i wasnt aware of those headlines, Alex Jones is wrong to do that I agree.

Daniel Nigro could not possibly know from experience because 911 was a unique situation.

 

[Stellafane]

..as far as profit is concerned, alex jones could make more money in the mainstream

Alex Jones would be an anonymous nobody in the mainstream. 9/11 is the best thing that ever happened to him. He found a ready market of people like you ever so willing to fall for his crap.