"Don't call her 'Hillary!!!!'"

[Travis]

If she fed on the blood of virgins, she wouldn't look like she's old enough to have flip-flopped on the issue of alchemy.

Maybe virgins are just too hard to come by these days.

I'll be sure to be wary should I run into her at a meet and greet.

 

[Damien Evans]

Oh, I was going to say the same thing.

I like Ike,
You like Ike,
Everybody likes Ike!
(Lyrics of a popular campaign song for him.)

OK, it's a nickname, not a first name, but just as informal and familiar I think.

In Israel, they often refer to the current prime minister simply as "Bibi". Again a nickname rather than a first name, but the same level of intimacy and familiarity. If anything nicknames are even more familiar than first names.

And our previous prime minister was often refereed to by his first name, Kevin

 

[Foolmewunz]

If she fed on the blood of virgins, she wouldn't look like she's old enough to have flip-flopped on the issue of alchemy.

Maybe virgins are just too hard to come by these days.

Part VII in the Foolmewunz Bad Advice For Conservatives series...

Yes! This is good. You've only got one demographic.... old people. This is the best way to assure their vote. Seniors secretly think that old people are worthless and should be criticized for daring to age. It's in their make-up. So more criticism of her age will be very helpful in securing the self-hating old folks' vote.

 

[Puppycow]

God, we have two years of crap like this ahead?

No ****. Sometimes the whole thing can be entertaining but sometimes one can only sigh and think: Oh, gawd, here we go again. Spare me.

Well some people (a lot of people) tune politics out entirely. No one has to read articles like this.

 

[Puppycow]

Can you name the last presidential candidate from either side who was referred to solely by their first name?

I had a few more thoughts.

How about Rand? Take a look at his website. Or some of his campaign posters.

I did kind of think this same question was brought up and resolved last time she ran. It's not a sexist thing, it's a thing peculiar to H.R.C. Most other women in politics are not normally called by their first names.

Generally, e.g., no one calls Elizabeth Warren, or Diane Feinstein, or Nancy Pelosi, et al. by only her first name. Therefore I think we can conclude that, while slightly unusual, it's not a common gendered practice to do this.

 

[Puppycow]

And our previous prime minister was often refereed to by his first name, Kevin

Thanks, didn't know that.

 

[Foolmewunz]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/14/opinions/drexler-dont-call-her-hillary/index.html

"Whether she endorses the idea or not, calling Clinton by her first name serves to, at best, reinforce gender and workplace stereotypes -- that women need to be "approachable," not abrasive or aloof, in order to get the job done and be liked while doing it -- and at worst, infantilize and put her in her place."

Holy crap, has our society become SO thin skinned and sensitive????

Has Hillary asked that folks not call her by her first name? Has she said that its offensive and hurts women?

Oh, and by the way, she had NO problem whatsoever using banners saying "Hillary for President" in 2008 and "Hillary for Senate" in 2000.

So folks, please, grow a damn spine and stop being so freaking sensitive.

I have no idea who Peggy Drexler is, but she seems to be divorced from modern reality.

"Hillary" or "Hillary!" is a brand. Candidate Clinton and her advisers/handlers (one of whom has her same surname) realize that the name is somewhat unique and that no one hears it without finishing the name, mentally, "Hillary... CLINTON!" And politics is just as much brand recognition as any form of marketing. Why fight against a trend that is working for you?

William Clinton didn't go by "William", but "Bill". And he certainly did nothing to quash the "Bubba" nick. It actually helped him with an entire demographic who can relate to Bubba and not to "Rhodes Scholar William Clinton". It's all about humanizing the candidate, and her choice to run with "Hillary full stop" is indicative that they understand marketing.

 

[Puppycow]

There are some other peculiarities between how different politicians are referred to.

For example, it is common to refer to some presidents by their initials, but not others:
JFK, LBJ, FDR
We see or hear these all the time.

But not RWR or JEC or HST.

No particular reason other than that's just how language works. It happens organically, not according to predetermined rules.

 

[Ladewig]

To be fair to the writer, she said "as if she were a pop star in a pantsuit".

Yes. I should have been clearer in my point. Pantsuit is the operative word. Some one decrying the lack of respect a female presidential candidate is receiving would not say "in a pantsuit." What she wears is irrelevant - especially if the garment being described is perfectly apprporiate for a woman in Hillary Clinton's position. The author is a twit or a troll and should not be taken seriously.

 

[Noztradamus]

And our previous prime minister was often refereed to by his first name, Kevin

And our Foreign Minster in the early 90s was always called Gareth for short.

 

[Damien Evans]

Thanks, didn't know that.

Here's his campaign top from the 07 election:
https://lunchwithfriendsdotnet.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/r166155_616926.jpg

Note: He's not actually in that picture, but the woman in front centre is the member for Adelaide, Kate Ellis.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Ellis

 

[The Don]

Hillary got 47% out of all those polled, which is not an absolute majority - but could be once the 'undecideds' make up their minds.

It could just be a reflection of her higher level of "brand" recognition. IMO there are a proportion of people who will simply respond with the name that they recognise rather than necessarily giving it due and careful consideration.

I suspect that the Hilary Clinton number will soften as recognition of other candidates increases and/or the public start to listen to the attack ads and develop their own opinions.

 

[12AX7]

OH MI GAWD!!! SHE SOUNDS AWESOME!!!!!!

You should probably start getting used to her.

 

[Spindrift]

If she fed on the blood of virgins, she wouldn't look like she's old enough to have flip-flopped on the issue of alchemy.

Maybe virgins are just too hard to come by these days.

They are when Bill's around.

 

[Mike!]

I'll be sure to be wary should I run into her at a meet and greet.

I think it's generally, 'beautiful virgins', so you should be perfectly safe.

 

[The Big Dog]

Honest Abe.

Cowboy Hillary

Done, thread ovar!

 

[The Mutha]

Anybody remember the "outrage" when Jimmy Carter took the oath of office as "Jimmy" Carter? Quite a number of folk thought that was incredibly tacky and low-class.

 

[The Shrike]

I'm not Evelyn kidding, it used to be a boy's name.

If you don't knock it off I'm going to nominate you.

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

Anybody remember the "outrage" when Jimmy Carter took the oath of office as "Jimmy" Carter? Quite a number of folk thought that was incredibly tacky and low-class.

Fortunately he had a brother to make him look classy and sophisticated by comparison. Like Jeb does.

 

[Spindrift]

Fortunately he had a brother to make him look classy and sophisticated by comparison. Like Jeb does.

Leave Neil alone.