Does procreation offer proof;

[Bishadi]

I guess that's a no. Well, let's take the sentence, "abuses entropy". "Abuses" is a word used in the English language to describe the action of taking deliberate advantage of another

i guess i am taking advantage of my environment and perhaps harming the ignorance with a taste of reality.

Is it possible that you mean "life decreases entropy"? Or perhaps, "life stabilizes entropy"? Please clarify.

nope, as i am awaiting to see the bumper stickers!

 

[Dinwar]

now that is bonafide gobbly-goop

No, it makes sense. And considering most of it is common knowledge (technically speeking) you wouldn't even need a citation to print that in an academic journal.

If you don't understand that post, I respectfully suggest that you acknowledge that you do not know enough to contribute meaningfully to this conversation.

 

[majamin]

i guess i am taking advantage of my environment and perhaps harming the ignorance with a taste of reality.

nope, as i am awaiting to see the bumper stickers!

I've explain how using the word "abuse" is nonsensical in this case. I've asked whether or not you would accept a re-wording of your idea, with a few different ideas of my own. Can you please provide a statement that does not use the word "abuse", so that we can be more clear about what you mean?

 

[Bishadi]

No, it makes sense. And considering most of it is common knowledge (technically speeking) you wouldn't even need a citation to print that in an academic journal.

anyone can print star trek and green monsters, spegetti gods and even gods on a thrown with lightning bolts in his hand


dont make it real!

If you don't understand that post, I respectfully suggest that you acknowledge that you do not know enough to contribute meaningfully to this conversation.

i presented a question of life abusing entropy and you are taking about what people look at in telescope and are trying to discount me because i call your rant to be based on your acceptance and not reality.

go lay by your dish

 

[Bishadi]

I've explain how using the word "abuse" is nonsensical in this case. I've asked whether or not you would accept a re-wording of your idea, with a few different ideas of my own. Can you please provide a statement that does not use the word "abuse", so that we can be more clear about what you mean?

if i thought your intent was good, i could

but since you know exactly what i mean and why, then show us all that you would like to contribute to the evolution and perform a rendition that is clear.


if i could word everything perfectly, i would not be taking the abuse here by so many

the evidence is still valid and the scope has proof already simply with the use of common sense.

you can add any time you like

 

[Dinwar]

i presented a question of life abusing entropy and you are taking about what people look at in telescope and are trying to discount me because i call your rant to be based on your acceptance and not reality.

So you DO want to discuss life after all.

Okay. Please learn basic biology.

 

[Bishadi]

So you DO want to discuss life after all.

Okay. Please learn basic biology.

like what?

how about how energy combines mass. for example the phosphlipid bilayers.

do you know how to describe the basics of how that resonance (call it a phonon, exciton, polariton.... if you like) is combining mass within it field?


if not, then perhaps you are not capable of a biological discussion.

do you know why the nuclear pores of the nucleus retains the plug?

how about what 'folds' the rna chain; what force?

do you even comprehend a resonant energy transfer?

how about what glial are for in the mylean sheath?

do you know what the p680 is?

how about why they are just now recording the signatures (wavelengths) of the protiens within most all life?

LIfe is more of the game i love, than just picking on the idiots as they go bye, during their 'walking of the planck'.

 

[aleCcowaN]

Look! The software is about to create a spin off thread.

 

[X]

Isn't that some sort of terrorist organization perpetrated by middle school math teachers?

I heard rumors that they may have weapons of math instruction.

 

[Third Eye Open]

Bishadi, do you seriously think that every educated person on the planet other than you is retarded? If things like 'fire' and 'putting on a coat' violate the laws of thermodynamics how can it be possible that these laws are still around and being taught and accepted by EVERYONE with a high school education? Do you even consider this? Or is the fact that the idea came out of your head enough for you to be absolutely sure that it is right and everyone else on the planet is wrong?

Have you ever in your life been wrong about anything, I wonder.

 

[Bishadi]

Look! The software is about to create a spin off thread.

and you will follow me anywhere (by thread)

 

[Dinwar]

I don't understand most of that, Bishadi. But all of that is PHYSICS, not BIOLOGY. Biology deals with organisms, not wavelengths. There may be some applications, but you're talking physics, and not very well at that.

Oh, and my qualifications are listed elsewhere--namely, my degree and my job.

 

[Bishadi]

I heard rumors that they may have weapons of math instruction.

think about it, teach the kids how life evolves via math and the religious 'creations' go extinct.


pertty basic

 

[Dinwar]

think about it, teach the kids how life evolves via math and the religious 'creations' go extinct.

What, you mean like Hardy/Weinburg?

 

[nescafe]

not a lick of evidence other than folks looking at a 'lil'white' dot and trying to suggest that mass is crunching on itself.

We call them stars. As for mass crunching in on itself, what do you think gravity does?

just speculation and you bought it

Your speculation is complete gibberish, fit only to contrast with real science.

What I stated is quite well-known and non-controversial.

 

[Bishadi]

Bishadi, do you seriously think that every educated person on the planet other than you is retarded?

no

as i know honesty is within each when applied.

If things like 'fire' and 'putting on a coat' violate the laws of thermodynamics how can it be possible that these laws are still around and being taught and accepted by EVERYONE with a high school education?

kind of like; how do religious adherant believe in a magical god creating women from the rib of a man?

beats the hell out of me.

Do you even consider this?

for three decades and even since being on this forum i am surprised that so many maintain and adher to a paradigm (belief) over using common sense

it is borderline sick.

Or is the fact that the idea came out of your head enough for you to be absolutely sure that it is right and everyone else on the planet is wrong?

i wrote it all out within months of my 16th birthday because i thought it was so weird and simple.

but cal tech (i believe) sent me a reply that 'a photon cannot be slowed per relativity'.... which is like saying, god created the universe.

So for the last 30 yrs i have been a recluse, simply to learn and make sure.

i said i would retire at 40 to share but during that time i have come to find that the math is not something to just put out there because like here, few will comprehend.

not my fault

Have you ever in your life been wrong about anything, I wonder.

i have perhaps apologized more times on this forum, than many do in a lifetime.

i aint special and i know it as it aint one person that controls; it is 'we the people' that runs this taco stand and i know quite clearly that to enable many with reality, the progression will encircle the globe and nothing can stop it.


the base principles are the importance, the math just provides the last word.

likewise, there is enough within the medical fields and sciences to address every ailment know and all that is left is changing the focus of how it is observed (the life of mass)

please, i rather prefer being considered a quack and i am too weak to ever be given a chair of responsibility.

 

[Bishadi]

We call them stars. As for mass crunching in on itself, what do you think gravity does?

what is gravity?

ie... the observations do not tell you or even newton what gravity is.

Your speculation is complete gibberish, fit only to contrast with real science.

real science is the pursuit of truth; screw the law

ie.... seeking and focusing on truth is science, while maintaining a belief over truth, reality and evidence is practically religion

What I stated is quite well-known and non-controversial.

that claim is just based on your acceptance but ask any real science person with bonafide integrity if they know what gravity is.

not you or 'them' even remotely comprehend it.

and that is not my fault nor is it anyone but the blame is on the lack of integrity by many.

dont take it so personal unless you are truly just self centered and have no intent on evolving. I can assure you, the ignorance will go extinct eventually

 

[Dinwar]

but ask any real science person with bonafide integrity if they know what gravity is.

I'm a real scientist. Several states can attest to my integrity. However, I have no clue what gravity is--I have a vague notion that it's warped space-time (I've read Hawking's books, and a few others), but certainly not enough to state that I know what it is.

The reason? That integrity thing you mentioned. It's outside my area of expertise, and I therefore admit, to myself and to others, that I simply don't know.

That's why the whole "combining fields" or "crossing diciplines" or however you put it fails in many cases--people (like you) refuse to acknowledge that they don't know what they don't know. It's the intellectual equivalent of what we call the "Newbie Flail" in the SCA--you don't know enough in the fields you're talking about to know how the arguments are typically formed, much less what they are, and that's what gives you the (false) appearance of being able to discredit the experts.

ETA: All that said, you have now insulted....well, just about every scientist that's not you. I'm done with you. Come back when you actually know something.

 

[aleCcowaN]

Let me see if I can guess what will the software's spin off thread be about:

"woh contest consciusnes being association of mas by en tangelment; foobar oot oot" (starting with a delirium about myelin, glial cells, photons jumping, and all the firecrackers designed to engage debate) sorry, I can't play the Egyptian very well.

 

[Ziggurat]

the math is easy

Then do it.

i was in third grade doing parabolics using the quadradic equation.

And have you moved beyond the quadratic equation yet? Because you don't act like it. You don't act like you've moved beyond third grade either.