Does Anybody Know about Psychic Judith Turner?

[SuzieS]

Even so, I wonder what the benefit was. How did that psychic help SuzieS?

• She spent some money on a psychic.
• That person told her things about her relatives. Presumably she already knew those things, which is how they were determined real. So what's the value?
• She told her of "future events." Did SuzieS change her life in any way to take advantage of this information?
• The psychic told her she'd move to a town in another state.* Now she lives there. Did she spend effort finding out about the town to better plan her move? Did this help?

Just trying to figure things out. Unless she gives you tomorrow's lotto numbers, what's the benefit? Like counseling?

Add me to the list of people who would love to see a transcript of the CD.

*I don't believe this for a minute. My bet is that she said "the town name had green or a color or a type of tree" in it or something else vague like that, but giving the benefit of the doubt here.

Did I check out the town/state that Judith mentioned? No. Why would I? I wasn't planning on living there.

She told me about future things for my relatives. I did not know for years later that what she told me was true. I didn't actually believe what she said at the time.

No I didn't change my life in any way because of what Judith said. Most of what she said was about my children and some was about my life. Other information was about my father (who is deceased). Some was about my boss, who was living at the time, but is now deceased.

Yes I paid to have a session with her. After hearing from others who had sessions with her, I wanted to see what she had to say for myself. My first session was interesting, but I wasn't amazed. Not until years later when certain things came to pass. That's when I made an appointment for my second session.

The information I gain from this does not change my life in anyway, but it may influence how I help my children with their lives. It's a personal thing.

I have no interest in winning lottery numbers and psychics cannot do that anyway!

 

[SuzieS]

In what way could this information help your children?

How can this information help my children? She has told me things about my childrens lives that I do not share with them. But knowing it myself, I can help in ways that can make their lives easier and better.

 

[Resume]

Did I check out the town/state that Judith mentioned? No. Why would I? I wasn't planning on living there.

She told me about future things for my relatives. I did not know for years later that what she told me was true. I didn't actually believe what she said at the time.

No I didn't change my life in any way because of what Judith said. Most of what she said was about my children and some was about my life. Other information was about my father (who is deceased). Some was about my boss, who was living at the time, but is now deceased.

Yes I paid to have a session with her. After hearing from others who had sessions with her, I wanted to see what she had to say for myself. My first session was interesting, but I wasn't amazed. Not until years later when certain things came to pass. That's when I made an appointment for my second session.

The information I gain from this does not change my life in anyway, but it may influence how I help my children with their lives. It's a personal thing.

I have no interest in winning lottery numbers and psychics cannot do that anyway!

This all sounds like a typical cold reading with you filling in the blanks even though you don't recall doing so.

I'd like to know how this sort of thing influences how you help your children live their lives.

 

[Resume]

How can this information help my children? She has told me things about my childrens lives that I do not share with them. But knowing it myself, I can help in ways that can make their lives easier and better.

She mentioned my daughter's marriage problems, I did not tell my daughter this (if there are problems she doesn't need to know, she knows already). But my daughter never told me until recently, so perhaps my advice and suggestions can help. And maybe it doesn't help my children at all, perhaps it only helps me. After all, I'm the one who sought out the psychic not them.

You sound very malleable; have you ever tried to objectively assess your readings or do you take them at face value?

 

[Resume]

I have no interest in winning lottery numbers and psychics cannot do that anyway!

How do you know this?

 

[kerikiwi]

She mentioned my daughter's marriage problems

A verbatim transcript would be good to see, because on the face of it I do not believe your recollection and interpretation of what took place is accurate.

 

[kerikiwi]

I have no interest in winning lottery numbers and psychics cannot do that anyway!

Why do you say psychics cannot predict lottery numbers? They can predict other stuff. What makes lottery numbers special?
Why do you have no interest in the winning numbers?
Surely if you won a swag of money you could do all sorts of good deeds.

 

[SuzieS]

A verbatim transcript would be good to see, because on the face of it I do not believe your recollection and interpretation of what took place is accurate.

You have no reason to believe it and I'm not here to convince anyone.

 

[kerikiwi]

You have no reason to believe it and I'm not here to convince anyone.

Then what are you here for?
To advertise? Preach?
Go on, try to convince me.
Give us a transcript.

 

[SuzieS]

You sound very malleable; have you ever tried to objectively assess your readings or do you take them at face value?

After 13 posts you think you know me enough to say I "sound malleable"? Are you psychic? j/k

I'm far from malleable, but that did make me smile. I was very careful not to give any information, answering yes or no and making very little facial expressions. I'm not stupid. I went in as a skeptic and wanted the cleanest experience possible. If Judith was the real deal, she wouldn't need any other information. She only knew my first name, that's it.

Of course I objectively assess the readings. The first one I didn't believe was accurate at all until years later.

The second session I paid more attention and was happy I was able to get a CD.

A transcript would not be available. It's a personal thing.

 

[Resume]

After 13 posts you think you know me enough to say I "sound malleable"? Are you psychic? j/k

I'm far from malleable, but that did make me smile. I was very careful not to give any information, answering yes or no and making very little facial expressions. I'm not stupid. I went in as a skeptic and wanted the cleanest experience possible. If Judith was the real deal, she wouldn't need any other information. She only knew my first name, that's it.

Of course I objectively assess the readings. The first one I didn't believe was accurate at all until years later.

The second session I paid more attention and was happy I was able to get a CD.

A transcript would not be available. It's a personal thing.

I know you say you're not here to convince anyone but a transcript of your session/s would allow an independent assessment of your readings. I think you'd find it enlightening.

 

[SuzieS]

Then what are you here for?
To advertise? Preach?
Go on, try to convince me.
Give us a transcript.

I explained why I came here in another post. Why I have stayed is beyond me.

I'm not advertising anything, I'm not preaching and I have no interest in convincing anyone of anything (maybe you missed where I said that!).

Sorry, the transcript is personal to me and would mean nothing to any of you. And even if I gave you a transcript, you probably wouldn't believe it was accurate anyway. As I said, I'm not a stupid person.

 

[kerikiwi]

After 13 posts you think you know me enough to say I "sound malleable"? Are you psychic? j/k

I'm far from malleable, but that did make me smile. I was very careful not to give any information, answering yes or no and making very little facial expressions. I'm not stupid. I went in as a skeptic and wanted the cleanest experience possible. If Judith was the real deal, she wouldn't need any other information. She only knew my first name, that's it.

Of course I objectively assess the readings. The first one I didn't believe was accurate at all until years later.

The second session I paid more attention and was happy I was able to get a CD.

A transcript would not be available. It's a personal thing.

If a transcript is not available because 'it's a personal' thing, I call ********.
You have not given a full, accurate report of the session and you are deceiving yourself.
It did not happen as you claim it happened.

 

[SuzieS]

Why do you say psychics cannot predict lottery numbers? They can predict other stuff. What makes lottery numbers special?
Why do you have no interest in the winning numbers?
Surely if you won a swag of money you could do all sorts of good deeds.

I doubt there is a deceased soul out there that wants to give lottery numbers. At least I haven't run into one yet.

Money only leads to problems, I would rather you win the lottery and you can do the good deeds.

 

[SuzieS]

If a transcript is not available because 'it's a personal' thing, I call ********.
You have not given a full, accurate report of the session and you are deceiving yourself.
It did not happen as you claim it happened.

And you absolutely have every right to believe that, if you so choose.

 

[kerikiwi]

I doubt there is a deceased soul out there that wants to give lottery numbers. At least I haven't run into one yet.

Money only leads to problems, I would rather you win the lottery and you can do the good deeds.

it seems you have extensive experience in communing with the dead, which suggests your claim to have been skeptical of the psychic are disingenuous at best, and outright dishonest at worst. You are a believer through and through.
Get me the winning numbers and I'll use them.
Money only leads to problems? Seriously? In my experience, the only money -related problems are those resulting from a shortage.

 

[kerikiwi]

And you absolutely have every right to believe that, if you so choose.

I don't 'choose' what to believe. I believe what the evidence leads me to believe. Rights don't come into it.

 

[Foolmewunz]

Kerikiwi, remember Phil Plait's admonition please.

SuzieS,
From the way you express yourself, you're obviously possessed of intelligence. While it's apparent that you didn't come here to sell anything, you thought you were going SOMEWHERE to sell something of interest to someone, e.g. whomever at the psychic-friendly site you thought we were was to read your glowing testimonial would certainly have no remaining doubts about contacting Judy for a rather expensive reading. So, no,... you're not selling us anything - because we're not buying, but please don't say you had no intention of convincing anyone of anything. You NOW have no intention of convincing US of anything.

See, now... this is how we parse things. I'd dearly like to see some of the statements you claim she made in their original form, and know the background. Let's take the move to the mystery town (don't tell us your location - it's none of our business).

First, the background... Is this a place you knew of? If so, how did you know of it? Because it's a famous town related to something you do or like doing? Because it's the home of a friend or relative or the friends or relatives of said friend or relative.

Is the town within hailing distance of your or her location? e.g. is it within say 50 miles? 100 miles? Several states and/or time zones away?

And as to the reading/interview, itself:

How did this topic come up? Were you asking her which cupcake icing to use for a friend with fall colors and she just blurted out, "Well, most flavors would wor---- wait, I see you moving to Bartlesville, Oklahoma in the not-too-distant future." Or were you discussing your likes and dislikes, career and life aspirations, and desire for a change in directions.... Or something like that. As mentioned above, many cold readers can convince you that you've told them nothing, but you actually give them a lot of information. We've found through tapes and transcripts of most cold readers' work that the protestation "...but I gave him/her NO information at all..." is usually greatly like the recipe for Stone Soup, e.g. the recipients do not realize how much they've contributed and believe the soup was made from just a stone and some water or the reading was pulled out of the ether.

 

[Questioninggeller]

Like many others, I am quite skeptical Judith Turner has any psychic ability. According to her website:

Judy Turner
Psychic Readings
Old Post Suites
775 US Rt. 1, Suite 11
York, Maine 03909
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I recognized my gift at an early age and have been doing readings since 1973. During the session I will communicate with your guiding spirits and deceased loved ones. I will also receive personal information pertaining to the past, present, and future.

From: http://judyturner.net

She's been "doing readings since 1973." When you search for information about her, such as in google news archive or the newspaper archive, there is NOTHING about her aside from a few minor astrology book promotions. There are at least two Judith Turners claiming to be psychic: one in Maine and one in New Jersey. The one in New Jersey is the author.

That means Judith Turner has nothing to show in terms of independent verifiable predictions publicly reported in the last 40 years of performing readings. Quite dismal considering all the missing persons and criminal cases the police would like to solve.

In terms of public records, I could find no information about her business being registered with the state using Maine's Agency License Management search. It's definitely not incorporated, according to the Maine Bureau of Corporations. There is no record of Judy or Judith Turner operating any business in York County (where the aforementioned psychic's office is). I did find someone of that name having an expired broker's license in the county via a Maine alms query.

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After the information I received in that first visit and after much of it came to pass, I made another appointment for an update in 2009. I just re-listened to the CD from that visit and again, much of what she said in 2009 proved to be accurate. If she is still working, I will most likely make another appointment for an update.
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I am very surprised that she recorded a CD of the reading. Few psychics do this because often people see a difference between what they think they were told during the reading and what they were actually told.

I am not surprised you don't want to share the CD on the internet if it contains personal information. However at the same time I'm sure you understand why personal anecdotes, especially absent evidence of the reading, in the realm of the paranormal and psychic world means little. Often people make extraordinary claims without proof for many different reasons, including self-delusion and promotion. Thus, confirmable evidence is very important.

Forgetting the CD, I must ask:

1) After 40 years of doing readings, can you point to one instance where we can independently confirm Judith Turner made a prediction and was correct about it? Maybe a newspaper article, for example?
2) Since 1973 she's been involved in the psychic trade. Turner charges $150 for a reading. James Randi, a world famous magican, has been offering money if a psychic can demonstrate a psychic ability since 1964. Starting in 1996 the prize has been $1 million. Why do you think she hasn't taken the money?

 

[Pup]

I doubt there is a deceased soul out there that wants to give lottery numbers. At least I haven't run into one yet.

Did it occur to you that psychics may invent justifications why "deceased souls" can't give them lottery numbers, because psychics can't actually predict the future, and they can't fudge lottery numbers the way they can with cold or hot reading?