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Ed Do you like your cheese?

Red Baron Farms said:
Certainly not. But unless you are going to educated the entire world that the cheese was named after the guy's last name, and not a racial slur, it could probably increase sales to change the name. Bottom line always comes first. However, a change to something like Mr. Coon's cheese might be enough to get people off your back, especially if in includes a stylalised logo similar to KFC's Colonel Sanders.
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I can see the marketing man sweating like in the meme of having to push one of two buttons to market his cheese in a PC way: Make the character black, or make the character white?
 
cullennz said:
I was surprised to see faggots in the English frozen food section.

It wasn't world changing

It is pretty simple.

How far do the offended want to go?

Names of products. If yes, that's OK. But Please provide list.
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Okay, cullennz, we get it.

Now, what would you do if you were in charge of Coon's overseas expansion plan. Do you just say, "Aaaah **** it, let's sell the Sepos and the Poms some good ol Coon!" or do you say, "Maybe we should change the name for this one?"

Same question if you want to sell golliwogs with Robertson's Marmalade in the US.
 
Belz... said:
If a person's surname "Coon" is not offensive, then why is a company name based on the same surname offensive?
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I think there is a difference. We usually don't think of a person's name as something that is their fault or something to be ashamed of (someone started a thread about how they were named after Robert E. Lee - turns out that it is pretty common - and asked if they should change it. I thought no, but it would be a dick move today if you had a kid and named it after Robert E. Lee. It would be even worse if your kid was a girl, but maybe I am just old fashioned).

With a company, they seem to have more leeway and more choice about how they present themselves.
 
angrysoba said:
I think there is a difference. We usually don't think of a person's name as something that is their fault or something to be ashamed of (someone started a thread about how they were named after Robert E. Lee - turns out that it is pretty common - and asked if they should change it. I thought no, but it would be a dick move today if you had a kid and named it after Robert E. Lee. It would be even worse if your kid was a girl, but maybe I am just old fashioned).

With a company, they seem to have more leeway and more choice about how they present themselves.
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They do, but a) a LOT of companies bear the name of their founder and b) you can change your name rather easily as well, especially if you can argue that it's a slur.
 
Belz... said:
You do understand that this forum is about reasoned discussion, right? Why does it feel that every one of your posts is rather an attack on another poster?
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One of the first tactics we must adopt is to ascribe an emotive state to any respondent (I did it earlier). This seems to give one the upper ground and you can then proceed to trample all over any argument by referring back to it.

You shouldn't get your panties in such a twist over one poster attacking another ;)
 
cullennz said:
Do you have a kind of inbuilt need to be patronising?

No. The racist scum I meet just used other words.

I am becoming increasingly sick of you making stuff up I have said or pretending to no my experiences.

Again

Please stop.
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No. I have made up nothing. Show me where I attributed any quote to you.

Telling you people in the 90s didn't say "coon" because it is terribly offensive is not "pretending to know your experiences". I don't know what racists you hung out with, I can assure you some would have used it, particularly the older ones, and everyone would have known it to be a racist term.

It goes back a long way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._H._Elliott
 
The surname probably started out a Kuhn. Nordic I think.

So, that cute bandit faced critter is now a Rackuhn.

Now, what do we call the day after Thanksgiving?

What about a business that is making a profit? Is it OK to say "it's in the black"?

What about Blackie's Hot Dog Relish?
 
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Seems pretty simple to me: whatever the origin of the product name if it is now viewed as deeply offensive to a substantial percent of the population it is time to change it. In the USA at least “coon” was widely used as an offensive, racist taunt and is much in the same category as the n-word. One doesn’t have to be a snowflake to be offended by it. Name of founder or not, it’s overdue for a change if only as a sensible business decision.

If the founder of your product was named Hitler, even if not related to Adolf, it would be best to change your product’s name from “Hitler’s Heavenly Cheese Bits” to something else.

What’s the other choice - attaching a pamphlet to every box with an explanation? Place a removable sticker over the name that says, “Before you read the name of this product, which will offend you, let us first explain why it really isn’t offensive...”?
 
casebro said:
The surname probably started out a Kuhn. Nordic I think.

So, that cute bandit faced critter is now a Rackuhn.

Now, what do we call the day after Thanksgiving?

What about a business that is making a profit? Is it OK to say "it's in the black"?

What about Blackie's Hot Dog Relish?
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I assume you have been asleep for the past 50 years and not seen this sort of stuff being rolled out and thoroughly rebutted every minute of every hour of every day continually through that period.
 
Bikewer said:
I tried to ask my nocturnal scavenging mammal hound about this, but all he did was bay....
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I kinda twinge a bit when people ask me what kind of dogs I have. They are definitely innocent of any involvement in their breed naming.

Black and Tan hounds as been satisfactory so far and then the conversation quickly just turns to drinking.
 
Tony99 said:
I kinda twinge a bit when people ask me what kind of dogs I have. They are definitely innocent of any involvement in their breed naming.

Black and Tan hounds as been satisfactory so far and then the conversation quickly just turns to drinking.
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I suggest you don't go around certain parts of Ireland telling people how "satisfactory" the name is. See how easy it is to slip up?
 
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