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Do Peace Protests Have any Effect?

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Ooops, I should have pointed out that I couldn't find any references to domestic "communist" groups on the FBI site and that the statement above refers to leftist groups in general.
 
rikzilla said:


Geoff,

Do me a favor and take pics....I trust you to be objective. Act skeptical and let me know how much overt communist influence you see in the crowd.

I'm curious,
Rick

:D LOL

There will be none. The anti-war movement in England has jack squat to do with communism. I haven't even heard the word 'communism' mentioned for years. It is a truly American paranoia. We have a small band of people who sell a paper called "The Socialist Worker' but they are a tiny insignificant minority and really aren't connected with the peace movement. There is no fear of communism here. It just doesn't exist.
 
UndercoverElephant said:


:D LOL

There will be none. The anti-war movement in England has jack squat to do with communism. I haven't even heard the word 'communism' mentioned for years. It is a truly American paranoia. We have a small band of people who sell a paper called "The Socialist Worker' but they are a tiny insignificant minority and really aren't connected with the peace movement. There is no fear of communism here. It just doesn't exist.
Oh, I bet you've got a few that perceive a threat where there might not be one.
What do you call that? Oh yeah, paranoia.
Cheers, and have a good day. :)
P.S. Update us on the overt or for that matter covert commie influence you find at the demo. (How do we know you're not a commie?)
Hope the weather's good for you. Have you guys solved that rainy London weather problem yet?;)
 
UndercoverElephant said:


:D LOL

There will be none. The anti-war movement in England has jack squat to do with communism. I haven't even heard the word 'communism' mentioned for years. It is a truly American paranoia. We have a small band of people who sell a paper called "The Socialist Worker' but they are a tiny insignificant minority and really aren't connected with the peace movement. There is no fear of communism here. It just doesn't exist.

If you say so man...I may disagree with you, but I also trust you. Keep your eyes open and let me know what you really see. Pay close attention as well to the anarchist contingent. (You know, the idiots in black masks running around breaking windows...at least that's what they do here in DC during the IMF-World Bank meetings.) IMF is 2 blocks from me...and I can just see the corner of their building out my office window. I am well aquainted with the sight of them running around comitting petty acts of vandalism. :rolleyes: Often these guys are seen carrying posters of Che Guevara when not breaking stuff.

Hell, just be as objective as you can and discuss it here after it's over. Should make an interesting thread. The DC protests might not even come off as we are in for a bought of some nasty weather this weekend. (Freezing rain...changingg to sleet,...changing to snow with an expected accumulation of 10 inches.) So I think the DC peace protesters could be forgiven for not coming out in big numbers. ;)

-zilla
 
subgenius said:

Oh, I bet you've got a few that perceive a threat where there might not be one.
What do you call that? Oh yeah, paranoia.
Cheers, and have a good day. :)
P.S. Update us on the overt or for that matter covert commie influence you find at the demo. (How do we know you're not a commie?)
Hope the weather's good for you. Have you guys solved that rainy London weather problem yet?;)

Geoff said he's not a commie. That's good enough for me. Honestly, I can't say I'd like him any less if he were a commie. I doubt he'd hide anything from us....what would be the point of doing so??? That's the beauty of a forum like this....there is no real downside to being completely honest. If one became a JREF pariah (as if there were such a thing) how much impact would that really have in your life??? None right? I think I'd get over it pretty quick!

-z;)
 
I am sick of all these pansy peace protesters. how dare they say that the US isn't the freeist country in the world or that we are war-like? We ought to kill them all and teach everyone a lesson!
 
panduh said:
Ho Ho! I don't believe in ghosts, but the Spirit of McCarthy lives on :D

Take a hard backward glance at 50's America. McCarthy had a point...and history has proven that he was quite right about communist infiltration of the State Department. Of course McCarthy is only ever remembered for his Hollywood blacklist, and ridiculous and un-American demands that people name names (as if there was no legal presumption of innocence) of course that is the obvious wrong he did....and I will make no excuse for him. But in order to look objectively at history you have to look at what he was correct about.

To most leftists McCarthy is the boogeyman. Believing in the boogeyman tho is hardly what skeptics do.

-zilla
 
rikzilla said:


Take a hard backward glance at 50's America. McCarthy had a point...and history has proven that he was quite right about communist infiltration of the State Department. Of course McCarthy is only ever remembered for his Hollywood blacklist, and ridiculous and un-American demands that people name names (as if there was no legal presumption of innocence) of course that is the obvious wrong he did....and I will make no excuse for him. But in order to look objectively at history you have to look at what he was correct about.

To most leftists McCarthy is the boogeyman. Believing in the boogeyman tho is hardly what skeptics do.

-zilla
You certainly don't mean like believing in bogeymen commies, do you?
 
subgenius said:

You certainly don't mean like believing in bogeymen commies, do you?

SG,

Are you asserting there are no commies??? What makes you think that? My assertion that there are commies driving the peace movements is based in fact. I'm not saying that little green men, or bigfoot is behind the co-opting of pacifism...just people who happen to be ardent communists.

What's so unbelieveable about that??

-z
 
No, I'm not saying that.
Still waiting for your evidence that they pose some kind of threat.
Otherwise wouldn't that be like......well, a bogeyman?
 
Take a hard backward glance at 50's America. McCarthy had a point...and history has proven that he was quite right about communist infiltration of the State Department

Which time was he right? He kept changing the numbers of which he had absolute proof. And why did he not name names himself. Nancy Davis, an actress who was later to become First Lady, was called before the committee. Defending her was the president of the Screen Actors' Guild, Ronald Reagan. Lucille Ball was called into the inquisition because of her past membership in a leftist organization. I was very young at the time this witch hunt was going on and my dad allowed me to stay up late to watch the Army-McCarthy hearings. I remember Edward R. Murrow's "See It Now" program on which he exposed McCarthy for what he was. It was this program, I believe, that caused quite a few Americans to say, "Hold on. What's going on here." When it was put-up-or-shut-up time, McCarthy had to shut up.
 
Smalso said:


Which time was he right? He kept changing the numbers of which he had absolute proof. And why did he not name names himself. Nancy Davis, an actress who was later to become First Lady, was called before the committee. Defending her was the president of the Screen Actors' Guild, Ronald Reagan. Lucille Ball was called into the inquisition because of her past membership in a leftist organization. I was very young at the time this witch hunt was going on and my dad allowed me to stay up late to watch the Army-McCarthy hearings. I remember Edward R. Murrow's "See It Now" program on which he exposed McCarthy for what he was. It was this program, I believe, that caused quite a few Americans to say, "Hold on. What's going on here." When it was put-up-or-shut-up time, McCarthy had to shut up.
Those that don't remember history are condemning us all to repeat it.
 

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