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Disloyal: A Memoir - Michael Cohen's book

Stacyhs said:
2006 to 2018
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Thanks.

So 12 years of constant employment, which includes 8 years prior to the presidency, being his personal fixer in all ways. Getting him tricks, paying off tricks, nefarious deals, standing up in courts and lying his pasty white ass off. The consummate servile lackey.

And yet only now when the book comes out does Trump start labelling him a worthless psycho loser, etc., all the usual stuff we have come to expect from Donny.

He was with you for 12 years, Donny. And you used him to bail and wipe your great lard ass from its predictable fetid cesspools you dragged it into. And in all that time you failed completely to identify or "fire" Cohen for being the lying loser you now say he is.

Says far more about you as a judge of character, Donny, than it does about Cohen's multiple sins. At least Cohen tried to get out of the cesspit. You are still wallowing in it.
 
Stacyhs said:
We have to remember that he makes almost everyone around him sign NDA's for a reason.
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Funfact #3921: NDAs are not enforceable when it comes to covering up actual crimes. No contract is legal if it requires participation in crime.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Funfact #3921: NDAs are not enforceable when it comes to covering up actual crimes. No contract is legal if it requires participation in crime.
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True. But it does keep people from telling about such things like "I heard Trump call dead soldiers and marines 'losers'."
 
Cain said:
From WaPo: Cohen writes that before winning the presidency, Trump held a meeting at Trump Tower with prominent evangelical leaders, where they laid their hands on him in prayer. Afterward, Trump allegedly said: “Can you believe that bulls--t? Can you believe people believe that bulls--t?”

They're losers and suckers.
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I humor myself that any reasonable Politician thinks the same thing.

Need the support, of course. But if one is not rational enough to know ******** when one hears it- making decisions on the Peoples' behalf should be right out.
 
The Guardian with new details about the not so nice Trump family.
Not that it will concern the "family values" voters.

Disloyal also offers Cohen’s side of the story about hush money payments to Stormy Daniels, a porn star, and Karen McDougal, a Playboy model, who claimed affairs with Trump which Trump denies. Those payments, the mechanics of which Cohen explains, are at the heart of an attempt by prosecutors in New York to obtain financial information Trump has refused to disclose.

Cohen says Trump was not concerned that the first lady might leave him.

“I can always get another wife,” he says Trump told him. “That’s no problem for me. If she wants to go, so be it.”
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More about the Trump children in the article.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ok-disloyal-trump-racism-toxic-family-dynamic

ETA: another useful article: I Found All the Most Deranged Trump Anecdotes From Michael Cohen's Disloyal, So You Don't Have To Read the Cursed Book
 
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Firestone said:
The Guardian with new details about the not so nice Trump family.
Not that it will concern the "family values" voters.



More about the Trump children in the article.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ok-disloyal-trump-racism-toxic-family-dynamic

ETA: another useful article: I Found All the Most Deranged Trump Anecdotes From Michael Cohen's Disloyal, So You Don't Have To Read the Cursed Book
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I finally found something i agree with Trump about:

“‘What the **** is wrong with you?’ Trump screamed at his namesake. ‘You think you’re a big man sitting on the rocks and then boom! You kill some ******* animal? Then you drag your brother into this ********? Why the **** would you post photos like that? Get the **** out of my office.’”

Donald Jr, Cohen writes, “left without a word, head downcast”.

The president’s distaste for his sons’ hunting was also detailed in Melania & Me, a recent tell-all by Stephanie Winston Wolkoff, a former aide and friend to the first lady.
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Cohen writes: “The truth was that all three kids were starved for their father’s love … abandoned by their egomaniacal dad and humiliated when he openly cheated on their mother, and now all three are forever trapped in a cycle of seeking his attention.”
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This was the same story that Mary Trump wrote about in her book. Fred Trump Sr. ignored his children and they were basically starved for attention from him. They'd do anything for his attention and love which is what drove her father to alcoholism and to abandon his career in aviation. We see Don Jr, Eric, and Ivanka all working for the Trump Org. just as all Fred Trump's children did. We see the same public adoration. The cycle is repeating itself.
 
Firestone said:
According to Michael Cohen, Trump's intense hatred for Obama dates from the 2008 election.

Excerpt from the book:
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https://twitter.com/braggs91/status/1303204873438199809
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Norman Alexander said:
Just so we know: How long did Cohen work for Trump?
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Stacyhs said:
2006 to 2018
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So after KNOWING what kind of a person Trump was in 2008, he continued working for him for another 10 years! What an *******.
The enemy of my enemy is the enemy of my enemy, but not necessarily my friend. Kind of like The Lincoln Project.
 
I don't think anyone is claiming Cohen doesn't stink. But sometimes people really do decide they just have had enough of the **** and want to come clean. Especially when they've got nothing more to lose.
 
Trebuchet said:
So after KNOWING what kind of a person Trump was in 2008, he continued working for him for another 10 years! What an *******.
The enemy of my enemy is the enemy of my enemy, but not necessarily my friend. Kind of like The Lincoln Project.
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True. In that situation it is understandable to be cautious.

But in judging whether he is being honest with his current claims, you have to consider whether there is corroborating evidence, and/or whether what he says fits in with Trump's actions/personality.

For example:

- Cohen claimed that Trump made disparaging comments about Madela and other black leaders. Is it believable? Well, Trump has used the term "****-hole countries", so Trump making other racist comments seems to fit in with Trump's personality

- We know that Trump is not a religious person, so him making derogatory comments about evangelicals also seems to fit in
 
I believe Cohen had a couple of motives for writing this book. One, of course, he knew he would probably make a lot of money and wanted to profit. Fine. But the flip side of the coin, gave it dual-purpose. It was also finally a way for him to say, "Gotcha", to the one who threw him under the bus.
 
wasapi said:
I believe Cohen had a couple of motives for writing this book. One, of course, he knew he would probably make a lot of money and wanted to profit. Fine. But the flip side of the coin, gave it dual-purpose. It was also finally a way for him to say, "Gotcha", to the one who threw him under the bus.
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Okay, sure. So where's the "gotcha"?
 
Stacyhs said:
True. But it does keep people from telling about such things like "I heard Trump call dead soldiers and marines 'losers'."
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I doubt any NDA protecting POTUS is enforceable. And if it is, it shouldn't be.
 
Not so much a 'gotcha' as 'this is what I have heard you say, have seen you do, and know about you."
 
Firestone said:
The Guardian with new details about the not so nice Trump family.
Not that it will concern the "family values" voters.



More about the Trump children in the article.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ok-disloyal-trump-racism-toxic-family-dynamic

ETA: another useful article: I Found All the Most Deranged Trump Anecdotes From Michael Cohen's Disloyal, So You Don't Have To Read the Cursed Book
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That last piece, by Esther Wang, featured an HILARIOUS description by Cohen of the process by which Rump's hair is erected into its final construct. Flip, flap, flop. And it referenced "Hair Force One." If Cohen wrought that prose, he's got a good sense of humor. I guffawed!
 
theprestige said:
It was also finally a way for him to say, "Gotcha", to the one who threw him under the bus.
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Okay, sure. So where's the "gotcha"?
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Not exactly an earth-shattering revelation, but its possible that the release of this book (and the claims it makes) will divert some of the media attention away from whatever attacks might have been planning against Biden. It puts him on the defensive (at least for a short period of time).
 
Stacyhs said:
I doubt any NDA protecting POTUS is enforceable. And if it is, it shouldn't be.
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Why not unless it's about a crime?
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I think a case could be made that it would risk putting the president at risk of blackmail.... i.e. if the information was damaging politically or personally, either the person who signed the NDA (or others familiar with the material) might try to use it as leverage against a sitting president.
 
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